As many other's pointed out including myself; Zenimax have 1 talented developer create a tool to unpack and repack armor files. Then change the patcher to not care about the size of armor files. Then throw a party for yourselves. You just satisfied 100% of your playerbase for the first time since your companies conception.
appearence modding can be MAJORLY abused. Can be used to make enemies trynig to sneak easier to see, or just enemies in general easier to see from far away. allows you to make it easier to figure out what kind of role/class your enemies are facing or make it easier to see what kind of attack they are doing
The people who cite Almalexia, Vivec and Nocturnal however, as evidence of skimpy armor? These characters are Gods/demigods and Nocturnal's robe is pretty clearly just a fancy poncho.
MercyKilling wrote: »And our characters are soulless beings that have beaten down Molag Bal, Mannimarco and a host of Daedra, rendering us very godlike as well. Your point is?
MercyKilling wrote: »And our characters are soulless beings that have beaten down Molag Bal, Mannimarco and a host of Daedra, rendering us very godlike as well. Your point is?
"godlike"
There's a difference between RPG hero and Immortals who can create and destroy their own planes of existence on a whim and you only wound Molag Bal as a result of being imbued with the power of Akatosh. Don't think for a minute that was your fantastic build at work.
The POINT however, was that these beings are Immortals far beyond the worries characters in ESO, they have no real need for armor and can thus, wear whatever the hell they want.
MercyKilling wrote: »And our characters are soulless beings that have beaten down Molag Bal, Mannimarco and a host of Daedra, rendering us very godlike as well. Your point is?
"godlike"
There's a difference between RPG hero and Immortals who can create and destroy their own planes of existence on a whim and you only wound Molag Bal as a result of being imbued with the power of Akatosh. Don't think for a minute that was your fantastic build at work.
The POINT however, was that these beings are Immortals far beyond the worries characters in ESO, they have no real need for armor and can thus, wear whatever the hell they want.
For everyone's viewing pleasure:[...]
Pizzathegreat wrote: »*A really great proposal!*
MercyKilling wrote: »For everyone's viewing pleasure:
For the record, this isn't what I'm asking for. But, to include everyone, I'm not excluding this option.
TheShadowScout wrote: »
That pretty much sums up my thoughts about this sort of "armor", and why I want to see clothing like that only as part of the (sadly currently only stealable) "civilian clothing"...
MercyKilling wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »
...I kinda giggled at "underwear of elvenkind".
Oh, the possibilities!
Anyways, clearly whats going on here is mostly a functionality vs cosmetic arguement. We already have the "boob-plate", which is actually not so practical, but then again wearing 40 pounds of plate armor only to show some cleavage and your midriff...might as well not wear armor at all.
Huggernaut wrote: »I'd like to see better looking gear PERIOD.
So much of this gear looks horrible that I mostly just run around in costumes, but that is getting, real old, real fast.
I will agree with the OP though that the female armor seems to be considerably worse looking than the male versions. So much so that the ONLY alt I have ever made and actually leveled, I had to make a male simply for this reason alone.
MercyKilling wrote: »For everyone's viewing pleasure:[...]
For the record, this isn't what I'm asking for. But, to include everyone, I'm not excluding this option.
Edit:Pizzathegreat wrote: »*A really great proposal!*
This guy gets it. +1
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TheShadowScout wrote: »If wool clothing can be enchanted to provide protection, then steel clothing can be enchanted to provide more protection. Which is pretty much what all the light, medium and heavy armors are about...
As for enchantment in ESO... how many "glyphs of armor rating" did you enchant lately? Last time I did enchanting, the armor options were add stamina, add magica, or add health. Supporting magic for the wearer, not mystical protection like is possible in D&D (Bracers AC-0, Ring of Protection+5, etc.)
And while cloak of elvenkind or cloak of protection are nice, for fond memories of playing D&D (though I have to admit, I always was more partial to the cloak of displacement myself, when I could get one), we still don't even get a "oilskin cloak of rain repulsion" or "wool cloth of winter warmth" here in ESO yet...
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...and now... for something completely different...
Underwear of elvenkind is a valid but seldom mentioned part of many fantasy worlds. When found, it usually generates a lot of snickering among the male human adventurers, and embarrassed looks from their elven comrades, due to the, uhm, tailoring, which is also the reason it only fits elves... or girls. And some speculate on... a great many things while contemplating underwear on elvenkind. And can lead to some unfortunate experiences when enough mead enters the equation too. But I fear the forum standards prohibit from getting into detains here...
Bodycounter wrote: »There are enough games out there, that are made for horny young men. And the line between armor, that's still practical or plain sexual is small. Eso has highly realistic proportions and i would dislike armors, that are only implemented to show as much naked skin as possible. Yes, current armors are prudish, but don't go over a certain limit as many other games did.
I would really want to here what females think, how light, medium and heavy armors should look like. I can imagine, that most of them are sick of the cliche of half naked women and heavy armored (male) heroes.
TheShadowScout wrote: »MercyKilling wrote: »For everyone's viewing pleasure:
For the record, this isn't what I'm asking for. But, to include everyone, I'm not excluding this option.
For everyones amusement:
That pretty much sums up my thoughts about this sort of "armor", and why I want to see clothing like that only as part of the (sadly currently only stealable) "civilian clothing"...
TheShadowScout wrote: »The threads keep getting locked because people.Citing "fantasy" is no reason to throw realism out of the window and introduce bladeproof nudity. The setting within itself has to make sense within the constraints of its logic, and wearing something tough to keep the metal pointy ends of the things in your enemies hands away from the red stuff in your veins is logical in most backgrounds.This is a fantasy based game, "realism" post's don't hold in a fantasy based game with demon's and magic.
We want choices, we want our female "badasses" to not be wearing habits.
got flamed down by repressed individual's
Yes, magic is indeed a thing. But that doesn't mean its every thing. Now, trell me again... which of the magical abilities we have in Tamriel can make skimpy clothes provide extra protection again? Vestige status? Oh, no, wait, that's just for our respawns. Fiery chains? Nope, doesn't look like it. Occasional furryness? Maybe good for a cold wind, but otherwise... not too likely. Shooting balls of fire from your eyes and bolts of lightning from your ar... uhm... no, wait, that was a braveheart quote, wasn't it?Magic is a thing in the ESO universe. You realize that, right?
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But you can't wrap your head around skimpy clothing?
golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »No, ZoS shouldn't waste hours of time programming just so some fanboys can oggle at some breasts.
That this is a constant request on these forums amazes me.We want choices, we want our female "badasses" to not be wearing habits.
Because a woman isn't a badass unless she's objectified. Forget that Lyris can break apart rocks with her Axe, her boobs aren't spilling out of her armor so it doesn't count.got flamed down by repressed individual's
Because anyone who opposes pandering, immersion breaking nonsense is "repressed".
Rofl.
I can understand your point of view in that the female body scares you.
This is a constant request on these forum's because ESO has horribly puritan concepts for only female avatars.
maybe online games isn't the right choice for you.
Cloak of Elvenkind?
Cloak of Protection?
Don't you think those kinds of enchantments could be cast upon any clothing? Even underwear, should someone so desire?
No one is doing such a thing in this thread.Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Can players please stop asking for skimmpy metal bikinis already.
No one is asking to be objectified, that would be horrible.golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »Because a woman isn't a badass unless she's objectified.
No one is doing such a thing in this thread.Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Can players please stop asking for skimmpy metal bikinis already.No one is asking to be objectified, that would be horrible.golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »Because a woman isn't a badass unless she's objectified.
Have you guys/girls read this thread or are you basing your statements purely on assumptions? Because it feels like it's the latter.
And for those that say "just go naked", you're missing the point. Most of us are asking for a fancy, yet tasetful armor that can (but doesn't have to) reveal some skin, not for a skimpy one. And fancy not in the terms of adding tons of useless things like the dreaded hip flaps. A naked character isn't wearing anything good-looking, quite the opposite. Seriously, if I wanted to stare at a naked female body, I'd just undress myself and look in the mirror.
golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »I can understand your point of view in that the female body scares you.
Adorable, really.
If someone doesn't want every bit of serious and mature media on the planet to be sexualized for the sake of it they are repressed.This is a constant request on these forum's because ESO has horribly puritan concepts for only female avatars.
Most male armor is also full-body covering. What are you even talking about? The only revealing armor in the game, for both males and females, is low-level, which makes sense. The more revealing armor is the less it tends to actually function as armor..maybe online games isn't the right choice for you.
Maybe you would be more comfortable playing Scarlet Blade.Cloak of Elvenkind?
Cloak of Protection?
Don't you think those kinds of enchantments could be cast upon any clothing? Even underwear, should someone so desire?
Okay, wear skimpy armor (or none at all) and spam damage shields. I fail to see the problem there.
"But the armor underneath the magic is weaker than full protection". Yeah, what did you expect running around half naked once your magic fails you? Magic isn't infallible and non-enchanted threads shouldn't give more protection than specialized full-body armor once magic stops being a factor.