Message to Zenimax ..

Darklord_Tiberius

Another one of "these" threads........................

LonePirate

Oktaine wrote: »

Ask for a different color cat to ride.

You'll have better luck.

What species and color of cat would you like? I'm sure ZOS can make it available for you in short order for the low price of only 2500 crowns.

mcianconeb16_ESO

Arenas I can go with but not BGs. AvA will stand as the large battles and should stay as such. Another problem is that Zenimax may not have designed the classes with the full intent to be in arenas so more balancing of classes and certain skills will probably need to be restricted in arenas to prevent ridiculousness.

Maybe an alternative to either of these options is something similar to guild wars. Where guilds can cue in "war game" type BGs against one another or war games within guild members for fun, practice and testing new strats. Also add dueling dammit...

G0ku

I see people duelling all the time on the cyrodiil map, so I can´t see the need for it.

As they already have a 3v3v3 designed, why not add it into the game? Because this won´t be the end of the line - as soon as it´s implemented forum whiners will start threads like "nerf X, buff Y" like we already have for other topic. Then people will argue even more PvP screws PvE screws 3v3v3....

AhPook_Is_Here

G0ku wrote: »

I see people duelling all the time on the cyrodiil map, so I can´t see the need for it.

As they already have a 3v3v3 designed, why not add it into the game? Because this won´t be the end of the line - as soon as it´s implemented forum whiners will start threads like "nerf X, buff Y" like we already have for other topic. Then people will argue even more PvP screws PvE screws 3v3v3....

While I want arenas too, it's more work than i think most people think. They need to program a queuing interface, build a ranking system and program that, build a matching system that works with the queuing system. If there will be rewards, even just AP they will need to program a system for that. It would also be nice to have a betting system and an arena skill set. It might also be necessary to filter the champion system out of arenas.

If it is to be competitive they would have to rebuild it to be 3x3 or 4x4 and remove the 3 way or two teams will agree to win trade after eliminating the 3rd stranger team and rank together 50% faster than teams that don't collaborate. This is just one of the most obvious schemes but any sort of 3 way competition will be very creatively rigged by it's participants. Even XvX will suffer from rigging unless the scoring method is a zero sum system.

Finally there would be no need to adjust any abilities in the arena game wide, but zos would have to have a 2nd set of rules for all abilities built around the arena, similar to what GW2 did. If they make sweeping and sudden changes to abilities that effect every aspect of the game they will lose far more players than they will gain from this idea.

So while I doubt they will just add a cmdline to enter their existing 3x3x3, if they do, and if that's all they do, I hope they make it /arenanaoformadlulzgogogo

Aimelin

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

frozywozy

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Bouvin

What if they did arenas...

But no rewards from doing them. Except for fun and the changes to have small battles like the 3v3v3 map they showed off at Quake Con.

Better yet.. just introduce Dueling already.

Dreyloch

frozywozy wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

Sypher,

Great video, but uh bro...they aren't going to do jack until the console crap is done and released (in June). Your best hope for any of this (outside of some miraculous lag fix) are about slim and none till like next year. IF that.

I wouldn't mind some arena or battleground stuff, but they can't even get what they have to run right. Just like everyone else on these forums, I think your dreaming of a game that will never come.

Thank you for talking for "everyone" but what you just said doesn't quite resume what's been said so far. I suggest that you read again what people discussed in the current thread.

What's there to discuss? What's there to "resume"? ZoS has done nothing over the last year that's new for PvP. Unless you wanna call coldharbor siege new. I can use your wording from one of your posts and say "the majority of players". Dude seriously, it's a figure of speech... relax Francis.

Anything new will have to be designed, coded, released to PTS, then probably rushed out with glaring bugs just like everything else they've done so far. That to me seems like months and months of time before any kind of BG or Arena will come out. Heck, they can't even get Imperial city out!!! lol. Let alone the spellcrafting that got everyone hot and bothered.

But the lag needs to be dealt with first.In the place where we all go for PvP... now. Trying to get ZoS to add content by putting up a silly song and flashing words is NOT going to make it happen. They lock petitions, delete comments, remove lines from our posts...I'm really surprised this thread isn't locked yet for trolling ZoS.

Plenty of other games out there that have it. All I'm saying is, it's going to be a very VERY long time before this one does..if it even lasts that long. I can go either way on the subject. I just think your all smoking something if you think ZoS will make any new PvP content a priority.

frozywozy

Dreyloch wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

Sypher,

Great video, but uh bro...they aren't going to do jack until the console crap is done and released (in June). Your best hope for any of this (outside of some miraculous lag fix) are about slim and none till like next year. IF that.

I wouldn't mind some arena or battleground stuff, but they can't even get what they have to run right. Just like everyone else on these forums, I think your dreaming of a game that will never come.

Thank you for talking for "everyone" but what you just said doesn't quite resume what's been said so far. I suggest that you read again what people discussed in the current thread.

What's there to discuss? What's there to "resume"? ZoS has done nothing over the last year that's new for PvP. Unless you wanna call coldharbor siege new. I can use your wording from one of your posts and say "the majority of players". Dude seriously, it's a figure of speech... relax Francis.

Anything new will have to be designed, coded, released to PTS, then probably rushed out with glaring bugs just like everything else they've done so far. That to me seems like months and months of time before any kind of BG or Arena will come out. Heck, they can't even get Imperial city out!!! lol. Let alone the spellcrafting that got everyone hot and bothered.

But the lag needs to be dealt with first.In the place where we all go for PvP... now. Trying to get ZoS to add content by putting up a silly song and flashing words is NOT going to make it happen. They lock petitions, delete comments, remove lines from our posts...I'm really surprised this thread isn't locked yet for trolling ZoS.

Plenty of other games out there that have it. All I'm saying is, it's going to be a very VERY long time before this one does..if it even lasts that long. I can go either way on the subject. I just think your all smoking something if you think ZoS will make any new PvP content a priority.

If you still think that Zenimax should try to fix the performance issues at all cost and not try to add any new content, you haven't read all the points brought in this thread. And I would be interested to see which of my post you are reffering to where I have talked for "the majority of players". It was probably something obvious. Nothing like "Everyone in these forums think you are dreaming when you talk about Arenas". A good portion of players are interested by them and want them to be implemented, like you can see in the recent vote made in this thread.

Aimelin

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Maybe you should behave more professionally and with respect given you're the "head of pvp department" in "one of the top pvp guilds" that is "invited to the zenimax dev panel", caus right now i've never heard of you, or your guild, and that all doesn't make me respect you or regard your opinion as sush to be respected, nor does it make me respect your guild or the position your guild is in.

crappy replies? look at ALL the threads made on this subject, not a SINGLE official reply regarding the matter has been given, that tells me enough, and making more threads with "petitions" and "votes" and "this thread voted for arenas, we demand them" isn't going to make them implement it.

frozywozy

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Maybe you should behave more professionally and with respect given you're the "head of pvp department" in "one of the top pvp guilds" that is "invited to the zenimax dev panel", caus right now i've never heard of you, or your guild, and that all doesn't make me respect you or regard your opinion as sush to be respected, nor does it make me respect your guild or the position your guild is in.

crappy replies? look at ALL the threads made on this subject, not a SINGLE official reply regarding the matter has been given, that tells me enough, and making more threads with "petitions" and "votes" and "this thread voted for arenas, we demand them" isn't going to make them implement it.

The only reason why I have answered your post is because of your bad behaviour toward Sypher regarding his video and because of your overall respect of interests of others. You only think about yourself and the things you like. Learn to accept what others enjoy to do and you will get respect right back at you.

Aimelin wrote: »

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Aimelin

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Maybe you should behave more professionally and with respect given you're the "head of pvp department" in "one of the top pvp guilds" that is "invited to the zenimax dev panel", caus right now i've never heard of you, or your guild, and that all doesn't make me respect you or regard your opinion as sush to be respected, nor does it make me respect your guild or the position your guild is in.

crappy replies? look at ALL the threads made on this subject, not a SINGLE official reply regarding the matter has been given, that tells me enough, and making more threads with "petitions" and "votes" and "this thread voted for arenas, we demand them" isn't going to make them implement it.

The only reason why I have answered your post is because of your bad behaviour toward Sypher regarding his video and because of your overall respect of interests of others. You only think about yourself and the things you like. Learn to accept what others enjoy to do and you will get respect right back at you.

Aimelin wrote: »

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

My bad behaviour and overall respect towards other peoples interests? Did you even read my post? I'm NOT against arenas or battlegrounds, it's just the matter of balancing AND implementing everything.

It's easy to demand content that you desire, but people don't stand still and think of potential issues that may bring, nor do they even consider if it's going to solve the performance issues. Who's to say that with the current implementation and format of coding the arenas won't lag? I'd be surprised if 5 people in this entire thread thought about that.

My bad behaviour towards Sypher? Not going to touch this subject in this thread, and why do you feel inclined to protect him?
He streams, great, alot of ppl follow him great, does he show respect towards me? No. Do i care? Not in the slightest, but respect goes both ways buddy.

Sypher

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Maybe you should behave more professionally and with respect given you're the "head of pvp department" in "one of the top pvp guilds" that is "invited to the zenimax dev panel", caus right now i've never heard of you, or your guild, and that all doesn't make me respect you or regard your opinion as sush to be respected, nor does it make me respect your guild or the position your guild is in.

crappy replies? look at ALL the threads made on this subject, not a SINGLE official reply regarding the matter has been given, that tells me enough, and making more threads with "petitions" and "votes" and "this thread voted for arenas, we demand them" isn't going to make them implement it.

The only reason why I have answered your post is because of your bad behaviour toward Sypher regarding his video and because of your overall respect of interests of others. You only think about yourself and the things you like. Learn to accept what others enjoy to do and you will get respect right back at you.

Aimelin wrote: »

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

My bad behaviour and overall respect towards other peoples interests? Did you even read my post? I'm NOT against arenas or battlegrounds, it's just the matter of balancing AND implementing everything.

It's easy to demand content that you desire, but people don't stand still and think of potential issues that may bring, nor do they even consider if it's going to solve the performance issues. Who's to say that with the current implementation and format of coding the arenas won't lag? I'd be surprised if 5 people in this entire thread thought about that.

My bad behaviour towards Sypher? Not going to touch this subject in this thread, and why do you feel inclined to protect him?
He streams, great, alot of ppl follow him great, does he show respect towards me? No. Do i care? Not in the slightest, but respect goes both ways buddy.

I don't have to respect people who send hate tells after getting merked.

Aimelin

Sypher wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Aimelin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

This game is wildly imbalanced and gets away with a lot of it through the fact that its large scale pvp. You think the game is imbalanced now, it will only be worse when its put under the microscope of small group play such as arenas/battlegrounds.

Another wildly popular MMO made the same move some years ago with the addition of arenas and the lead developer said he regretted their implementation. His words were wildly taken out of context but he was basically talking about how the expectations of a balanced arena put the game under excess scrutiny from a portion of its player base and that they could never deliver on true balance. I am saying this as a player who achieve 2700 in those same arenas but even I understood the game wasn't built around them and it was wildly frustrating at times.

That said, the way this game is designed it would be even worse than that transition. I think it would only be a detriment to this game if they added them.

Having done organized pvp 1v1, 2v2, etc for the past year in this game. I can assure you it isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Thats caus you use ever broken and unbalanced thing there is *cough nirnhoned bug* ....

It will be a nightmare for them to implement arenas / battlegrounds, not only for balance, but how they let players enter a queue ... do they allow premade? random? premade vs random? what XvX would be best? 3v3? 4v4? one of each class per grp? do people want to face 3 or 4 shield stacking sorcs teleporting all over the arena? or perhaps 3 or 4 blinxey type sorcs that take no dmg? 4 NBs spamming focused aim ? 4 Dks spamming petrify + WB? 4 templars spamming jabs?

I'm not against arenas, don't get me wrong, but for them to implement it perfectly, caus face it, if its done wrong and people find the most broken and cheezy setup to faceroll every match, it's going to be a nightmare and the queue will be empty, and ur "precious" arenas will have failed.

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

Or maybe you should stop posting crappy replies.

Maybe you should behave more professionally and with respect given you're the "head of pvp department" in "one of the top pvp guilds" that is "invited to the zenimax dev panel", caus right now i've never heard of you, or your guild, and that all doesn't make me respect you or regard your opinion as sush to be respected, nor does it make me respect your guild or the position your guild is in.

crappy replies? look at ALL the threads made on this subject, not a SINGLE official reply regarding the matter has been given, that tells me enough, and making more threads with "petitions" and "votes" and "this thread voted for arenas, we demand them" isn't going to make them implement it.

The only reason why I have answered your post is because of your bad behaviour toward Sypher regarding his video and because of your overall respect of interests of others. You only think about yourself and the things you like. Learn to accept what others enjoy to do and you will get respect right back at you.

Aimelin wrote: »

also stop making a billion threads about this, i'm sure they've read them all, while you don't get a response, it's not going to help your cause by spamming arena / battleground threads (neither will crappy videos).

My bad behaviour and overall respect towards other peoples interests? Did you even read my post? I'm NOT against arenas or battlegrounds, it's just the matter of balancing AND implementing everything.

It's easy to demand content that you desire, but people don't stand still and think of potential issues that may bring, nor do they even consider if it's going to solve the performance issues. Who's to say that with the current implementation and format of coding the arenas won't lag? I'd be surprised if 5 people in this entire thread thought about that.

My bad behaviour towards Sypher? Not going to touch this subject in this thread, and why do you feel inclined to protect him?
He streams, great, alot of ppl follow him great, does he show respect towards me? No. Do i care? Not in the slightest, but respect goes both ways buddy.

I don't have to respect people who send hate tells after getting merked.

I actually sent you a mocking tell after you couldn't kill my v5 templar in 1.5, different from a hate tell .... unless the definition of hate changed recently.

After that i didn't even send you any tells, and before that i never sent you any tells nor talked to you directly, get your facts straight

Sphinx2318

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badmojo

This reminds me of back in Bloodthorn when a certain guild was throwing their dueling in everyones faces, then getting extremely disrespectful if you didn't play along. It's their game, you're just a player in it apparently.

Sypher

badmojo wrote: »

This reminds me of back in Bloodthorn when a certain guild was throwing their dueling in everyones faces, then getting extremely disrespectful if you didn't play along. It's their game, you're just a player in it apparently.

Ugh.. *throws dueling at your face*

Oh and welcome back!

Ifthir_ESO

I'd rather have some semblance of balance in the game than arenas.

I dont have lag problems lately, fwiw.

Right now the PvP has no balance. There are the power combos, then there is everyone else.

corx3

^

The simultaneous nerf of impenetrable and lowering of the HP stat modifier to 1.1 from 1.5 created a lot of people who squish really, really fast. Active defense (blocking, dodging, shielding, escape tools, etc.) is now the only reliable defense.

badmojo

Welcome back? I was gone?

Tintinabula

Give these folks arena s already..maybe they'll spend all their time in there..one can hope.

MisterBigglesworth

Just fix all the bugs and the lag and give us 2v2v2, 3v3v3, 4v4v4 Arenas and 12v12v12 and 24v24v24 Battlegrounds and dueling (both Justice System "dueling" and normal dueling) and world pvp (optional, flag yourself for it) in the PVE zones, whereby everyone from all 3 factions participating in it gets scaled to Lvl 50 and it's a special phase where all the mobs are 50 too... **gasps for air** and put in new 12-man Trials and longer, more raid-like 24-man Trials and more dungeons and Vet dungeons and special 3-man dungeons where everyone can be dps so you get into a group REALLY fast using the all-new group finder that works perfectly for all of it! Heck lets even have pet battles and frog racing and mounted combat!

Yeah. Just do that.

Majax

Srsly Sypher why asking for Battleground and Arena when this game lake of bugfix, no lag and class features/balance ?

I'm completly agree with lag problem but i prefere 1000 times dat dev team focus on PvP meta and gameplay.