On Destruction Staves: Why a generic white Inferno Staff >> a Master's Lightning Staff

NotSo

instead of lightning-magicka drain and frost-stamina drain, what if it reduced the max by x% like some of the spells that reduce max hp

NobleNerd

This post needs to have some more attention. As I have leveled into the Vet levels and have been tweaking my build a few (hundred) times.... I too have seen issues like this in game play and combat.

Another thing that would be nice is clear statistics on tooltips and attributes. So many times I have had to search countless hours on the internet to see what other people thought about a certain tooltip in the game because Zenimax has failed to provide clear consistent tooltips.

Ajaxduo

I agree that frost and lightning staves need to be brought up on par to inferno. It is tiring using nothing but inferno staves for PvE and goes against the whole point of being diverse. I'd be happy if they scrapped the lightning HA and replaced it with a charge up like inferno/frost as the current channeled attack is clunky. I want to be a stormcalling sorc with a lightning staff and not look like a noob damnit!

ADarklore

I didn't hear anything in ESO Live about making any changes to Sorc staves, but as others have noted, we definitely need some changes to make Frost and Shock staves more useful. They keep talking about wanting to make things more diverse, such as how they are changing Mundus Stones so that more people use the others, but they don't seem to be doing anything about this particular issue. Perhaps it is on their "things to do list", but it would be nice to at least hear that it is, instead of leaving us to just continuously vocalize the problem in the forums.

Morvul

Xeven wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

I never made any claim with light attacks because light attacks themselves are a loss of DPS and a significant one at that.

They most cerainly are not! Who told you this? With what skills? Show me your testing.

LA Crushing Shock weaving is a significant increase in DPS over Crushing Shock alone. Now youre just spreading misinformation.



That is your heavy attack weave. Thats nowhere near what a proper light attack weave will do.

Is this a l2p issue?

medium attack weave (with a fire staff) is significantly higher DPS then light attack weave. And one can not medium attack weave with the "channeled" staves (meaning shock and resto staves)

tist

Or maybe give the next spell a 10% dmg bonus after a fully charged cold attack. Think of it like shattering ice.

Kyye

There are a lot of good debates inside this thread however, there is no valid argument against the ability to weave "medium" attacks which gives inferno staves the upper hand in DPS. That being said, a simple mechanic to the channel side that would allow for "medium" attacks would convey a nice comparison. As for frost, there isn't a single ability that is frost element which is out of scope for this thread

EDIT:@OP thank you for the time and effort behind this discussion

Xecil

Remove the stun from fire, give it to lightning.
Make the ice staff lower attack speed or resource regeneration by a noticeable amount.