Siege OP

Folkb

Spottswoode wrote: »

So giant flying rocks kill people? Go figure.

I hope there was a dragonknight in there

dantator

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

Fleshreaper

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Get out of the fire are you a new player?

But my feet were cold.

Spottswoode

Folkb wrote: »

I hope there was a dragonknight in there

He'll just use Green Dragon Blood and Flappy wings. Give him a minute.


Seriously, you guys are complaining that the big killer of medieval warfare is the big killer. Be glad we don't have cannons.

dantator

One of my proposal to minimize or maybe even fix the lag(idk if this would work) is to minimize animations when there are over x amount out people in a condensed area. Like change the animations of healing springs.

dantator

Spottswoode wrote: »

Folkb wrote: »

I hope there was a dragonknight in there

He'll just use Green Dragon Blood and Flappy wings. Give him a minute.


Seriously, you guys are complaining that the big killer of medieval warfare is the big killer. Be glad we don't have cannons.

Yeah, but this is a game not a real life simulation. If it was to be a real life simulation than people should die from hunger (and no not from food buffs).

Islyn

dantator wrote: »

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

I am not saying you are not a good fighter - seriously. I still am saying though - siege is bad And will kill you.

dantator

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

I am not saying you are not a good fighter - seriously. I still am saying though - siege is bad And will kill you.

Yeah, but the point I'm making is that it should not one shot you.

Crunch

It does seem kind of cheap that a good 1vsX can get crushed by siege. But there is so much more of that 1vsX to be had now, because people aren't blobbing up as much, just have to be more cautious.

Islyn

dantator wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

I am not saying you are not a good fighter - seriously. I still am saying though - siege is bad And will kill you.

Yeah, but the point I'm making is that it should not one shot you.

And that is where we (sorry really) disagree. I think it should.

Also Y I have been Empress on Wabbalag and Skullcrusher NA and no - I have never died to siege - I quit pvp because I was over whining from pvpers about everything.

Yes I agree siege hits hard - and I agree it should hit hard.

This in itself is no reflection of your ability against other players - to that /bow or /kowtow - but at the end of the day siege aoe is No.

Ara_Valleria

Soo00oooo..
Yesterday me and few others were sieging a resource tower inside which a well know group of strawberries were trying to set up a farm. While sieging the said tower, I noticed a few (5 or so) cherries set up seige a few steps behind me, to siege me while i was still on my siege.

Basically, instead of trying to sneak up to me and try to kill me while i was distracted (since i was sieging), these clever individuals decided the best course of action is to set up siege just a few steps behind me and 1 shot me 'cause why not ? Siege should be able to do that right ?
Why bother fighting people using abilities when you can just Siege the crap out of them ?
Such high level strats should be encouraged right ?


#WipeWithoutAFight

#AbilitiesAreForPussies
#OnlyProsUseSeige

#SVS


*No they couldn't kill me using their ingenious plan.


via Imgflip Meme Maker

dantator

Crunch wrote: »

It does seem kind of cheap that a good 1vsX can get crushed by siege. But there is so much more of that 1vsX to be had now, because people aren't blobbing up as much, just have to be more cautious.

Yeah, but see it's the zerg that makes the servers lag. People will still zerg and people will still blob up. It is tougher for organized groups to blob up now but one way they can counter siege is keep on moving as a group and swing around to hit the siege line. So, like I said this is not the right approach ZOS is making because like I said people will zerg and they will be organized.

dantator

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

I am not saying you are not a good fighter - seriously. I still am saying though - siege is bad And will kill you.

Yeah, but the point I'm making is that it should not one shot you.

And that is where we (sorry really) disagree. I think it should.

Also Y I have been Empress on Wabbalag and Skullcrusher NA and no - I have never died to siege - I quit pvp because I was over whining from pvpers about everything.

Yes I agree siege hits hard - and I agree it should hit hard.

This in itself is no reflection of your ability against other players - to that /bow or /kowtow - but at the end of the day siege aoe is No.

It's your opinion and I respect that.

Raash

Is that the sound from a sad tune performed on a lonely violin and vampire tears im hearing? ? No eyes are dry this evening, thats for sure. Mine is wet from laughter tho!
*high fives all the treb-shooters* Now thats a nice shot dear sirs, very well done!

dantator

Rekward wrote: »

Soo00oooo..
Yesterday me and few others were sieging a resource tower inside which a well know group of strawberries were trying to set up a farm. While sieging the said tower, I noticed a few (5 or so) cherries set up seige a few steps behind me, to siege me while i was still on my siege.

Basically, instead of trying to sneak up to me and try to kill me while i was distracted (since i was sieging), these clever individuals decided the best course of action is to set up siege just a few steps behind me and 1 shot me 'cause why not ? Siege should be able to do that right ?
Why bother fighting people using abilities when you can just Siege the crap out of them ?
Such high level strats should be encouraged right ?


#WipeWithoutAFight

#AbilitiesAreForPussies
#OnlyProsUseSeige

#SVS


*No they couldn't kill me using their ingenious plan.


via Imgflip Meme Maker

hahaha EXACTLY!

dantator

Raash wrote: »

Is that the sound from a sad tune performed on a lonely violin and vampire tears im hearing? ? No eyes are dry this evening, thats for sure. Mine is wet from laughter tho!
*high fives all the treb-shooters* Now thats a nice shot dear sirs, very well done!

haha always nice having trollz XD but I still shall voice my opinion.

Islyn

dantator wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Crunch wrote: »

LoL, I was going to comment before watching the video and tell you not to stand in red too... But I will admit, you are actually really good!(maybe even OP)

Now seriously, cmon man, you went solo against 10 plus players, others watching in the distance. That is quite the commotion. You were being focused by at least 3 that I can see when the siege hit you at half health... The only damage I see that was crazy, was yours. Is this your first time dieing in a while?

haha trust me it's not easy to 1vX as a DK magicka build after update 1.6. Also, I would of been able to tank that soul assult. The point I was making is that people are so inclined to use siege that when you are out numbered they will still use siege on you. Also, it shows that I'm not a noob, which gives me the credibility.

I am not saying you are not a good fighter - seriously. I still am saying though - siege is bad And will kill you.

Yeah, but the point I'm making is that it should not one shot you.

And that is where we (sorry really) disagree. I think it should.

Also Y I have been Empress on Wabbalag and Skullcrusher NA and no - I have never died to siege - I quit pvp because I was over whining from pvpers about everything.

Yes I agree siege hits hard - and I agree it should hit hard.

This in itself is no reflection of your ability against other players - to that /bow or /kowtow - but at the end of the day siege aoe is No.

It's your opinion and I respect that.

I also respect yours and will defend your right to it, too. (and I really mean that)

dantator

Raash wrote: »

Is that the sound from a sad tune performed on a lonely violin and vampire tears im hearing? ? No eyes are dry this evening, thats for sure. Mine is wet from laughter tho!
*high fives all the treb-shooters* Now thats a nice shot dear sirs, very well done!

haha always nice having trollz XD but I still shall voice my opinion.

Raash

dantator wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Is that the sound from a sad tune performed on a lonely violin and vampire tears im hearing? ? No eyes are dry this evening, thats for sure. Mine is wet from laughter tho!
*high fives all the treb-shooters* Now thats a nice shot dear sirs, very well done!

haha always nice having trollz XD but I still shall voice my opinion.

Khajiit, not troll. haha, Im actually not against your opinion, i think the problem is more of a vampire issue then a pvp issue tho. And im glad war machines actually is leathal now and not like throwin buckets of lukewarm water

dantator

Raash wrote: »

dantator wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Is that the sound from a sad tune performed on a lonely violin and vampire tears im hearing? ? No eyes are dry this evening, thats for sure. Mine is wet from laughter tho!
*high fives all the treb-shooters* Now thats a nice shot dear sirs, very well done!

haha always nice having trollz XD but I still shall voice my opinion.

Khajiit, not troll. haha, Im actually not against your opinion, i think the problem is more of a vampire issue then a pvp issue tho. And im glad war machines actually is leathal now and not like throwin buckets of lukewarm water

haha got to love Khajiit. Yeah, being vamp is brutal right now haha. But I disagree siege were lethal before the patch.

Equinox

I think impact damage should be as it is, maybe a tad lower. I'm gettin hit for like 16k sometimes with 5 piece heavy...

The DoT on fire damage I think should be lower. All I'm doing now is spamming purge-purge-purge, since a tick or two after initial impact will kill you if you didn't get a heal.

dantator

Equinox wrote: »

I think impact damage should be as it is, maybe a tad lower. I'm gettin hit for like 16k sometimes with 5 piece heavy...

The DoT on fire damage I think should be lower. All I'm doing now is spamming purge-purge-purge, since a tick or two after initial impact will kill you if you didn't get a heal.

Even if a person was to invest everything into max health the dot would kill you if the initial impact damage didn't kill you.

dantator

Equinox wrote: »

I think impact damage should be as it is, maybe a tad lower. I'm gettin hit for like 16k sometimes with 5 piece heavy...

The DoT on fire damage I think should be lower. All I'm doing now is spamming purge-purge-purge, since a tick or two after initial impact will kill you if you didn't get a heal.

Even if a person was to invest everything into max health the dot would kill you if the initial impact damage didn't kill you.

Natjur

All I could see from the OP is that DK need to be nerfed more, stacking shields and reflects. They need to make seige weapons more powerful and should always be one shots

ZOS_AlanG

Hi guys. A there is already an active thread about this in the Alliance War forum, we're going to lock this one. Everyone is welcome to continue the discussion in here: Siege Damage Intended to hit for 24k?