Siege Damage Intended to hit for 24k?
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jbcrocks✭✭✭If you come to think of it, siege should do more damage than what a player does...
Sieges are usually placed far from a keep...not just in front of it which makes sense since they made stone trebs deal more damage.jbcrocks [EP] - Dunmer DK - Vamp since launch - AvA 37
Chaboyyyhd [EP]- Altmer Sorcerer - AvA 9
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AriBoh✭✭✭✭✭First thing that comes to mind.
khele23eb17
Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.
ZOS_AmeliaR admin
Ultimately, any method of entering an enemy keep without breaking down the door is considered an exploit. Thanks for checking!
tinythinker
"I used to be a healer once, but then I took a Wrobel to the knee"1 -
WRX✭✭✭✭✭So my reaction so far is it is strong. Too strong, I would like to see about a 20-30% nerf from what it is now.
Not because it one shot me a couple times or because on one occasion it did wipe the group, but because in all honesty it strengthened us. Tower farming is hilarious now, you wont even make it close to the stairs.
It makes defending wayyy to easy. The people we were fighting werent the most skilled and we never got to the point tonight where we had to defend the inner, but I promise you that making it through an inner would not happen without massive numbers. Remember how oil catas + oils wiped everyone, this will be worse.
This will encourage zerging a lot.Decibel GM
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Why all the QQ?
I like these changes.
Now people appreciate me when I stealth burn those stone trebs in the flank when enemies seige inner walls. Now It makes sense to deter/eliminate seige machines as quickly as possible.Siblings-in-Prison
Lore:At a time of chaos and turmoil, children from all across tamriel have been taken by an evil Argonian Thieves guild. They were raised in captivity, forced to learn their captors evil ways and endured the harsh environment of Black Marsh. The intentions of the evil guild is still unknown till this day.
Amisdt the events surrounding the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a brave few has escaped their captors and ran off as far away as they can, eventually landing on the shores of khenarthi's roost.
Armed with the skills and the scars they have endured during their captivity, these brothers and sisters in chains has vowed revenge on their Argonian captors and their allies.
They kept the names branded to them by the evil reptiles as a reminder of all the pain and torment they have suffered, and have joined the Aldmeri Dominion as a means to an end... Paint Tamriel with Argonian blood.
[*] Sliced-in-Prison | Bosmer | Suction Blade
[*] Hunk-in-Prison | Breton | Hunky Blade
[*] Muse-in-Prison | Altmer | Healing Babe
[*] Hot-in-Prison | Breton | HotBod Killer4 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why all the QQ? Because some people don't like the idea of PvP being anything other than a cage fight or a gank fest."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."1 -
Tintinabula✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why all the QQ? Because some people don't like the idea of PvP being anything other than a cage fight or a gank fest.
Cmon its really not PvP.. It's whackamole with siege. Let's call it what it is. Gamble your time and AP to see if you can whackamole and one shot them. plain and simple.
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xDOVAHKIINx✭✭✭Game went from ESO to BF4 over night. Patch notes for 2.0.5 "Jet Fighter Planes" maybe? Not too far fetched at this point.
"According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk2 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah it sure did. Because those big siege engines should only tickle us mighty warriors right?0 -
Max2497✭✭✭The change makes sense to me. I used siege equipment for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was suprised that it was so weak. Players should not be able to withstand multiple hits with siege equipment.2 -
xDOVAHKIINx✭✭✭Yeah it sure did. Because those big siege engines should only tickle us mighty warriors right?
Your saying the game should have more realistic merit? yea, last i saw i was dropping literal novas on peoples heads. Want to keep going?"According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk2 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I fully expect bomb groups that have been practicing group ball tactics to completly rage log instead of L2P .4 -
xDOVAHKIINx✭✭✭I fully expect bomb groups that have been practicing group ball tactics to completly rage log instead of L2P .
Here we got the L2P card, coming from a v7. GG"According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk2 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hopefully it will die down a little after the thrill is gone.
Tonight not standing in the red on Blackwater was damn near impossible because everybody had siege weapons.
The DoT is what gets you even with a slight nick on the edge of the red as you dodge out of it.
I don't zerg, but I do like to snipe, hit and move but red was every where, I don't care how good you are at dodging you land in another there were so many siege weapons.
They should cost a lot more to prevent all this spamming of them. imo2 -
Well I haven't died from seige yet.
I almost when got hit by two at a time... Dark Cloak.. Back to counter seige. Learned my lesson. Never got hit again.
So yeah. To me. This is a L2P issue.Edited by Forumer-in-Prison on March 24, 2015 3:49AMSiblings-in-Prison
Lore:At a time of chaos and turmoil, children from all across tamriel have been taken by an evil Argonian Thieves guild. They were raised in captivity, forced to learn their captors evil ways and endured the harsh environment of Black Marsh. The intentions of the evil guild is still unknown till this day.
Amisdt the events surrounding the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a brave few has escaped their captors and ran off as far away as they can, eventually landing on the shores of khenarthi's roost.
Armed with the skills and the scars they have endured during their captivity, these brothers and sisters in chains has vowed revenge on their Argonian captors and their allies.
They kept the names branded to them by the evil reptiles as a reminder of all the pain and torment they have suffered, and have joined the Aldmeri Dominion as a means to an end... Paint Tamriel with Argonian blood.
[*] Sliced-in-Prison | Bosmer | Suction Blade
[*] Hunk-in-Prison | Breton | Hunky Blade
[*] Muse-in-Prison | Altmer | Healing Babe
[*] Hot-in-Prison | Breton | HotBod Killer1 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭I knew this was coming and it sounded like a good idea, but this is ridiculous!! The only way this is okay is if siege does friendly fire damage to allies. You can't go into battlefield now because your opponent will root you and then hit you with siege. You die. It's not fun. They take no damage.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!2 -
I knew this was coming and it sounded like a good idea, but this is ridiculous!! The only way this is okay is if siege does friendly fire damage to allies. You can't go into battlefield now because your opponent will root you and then hit you with siege. You die. It's not fun. They take no damage.
I support thisSiblings-in-Prison
Lore:At a time of chaos and turmoil, children from all across tamriel have been taken by an evil Argonian Thieves guild. They were raised in captivity, forced to learn their captors evil ways and endured the harsh environment of Black Marsh. The intentions of the evil guild is still unknown till this day.
Amisdt the events surrounding the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a brave few has escaped their captors and ran off as far away as they can, eventually landing on the shores of khenarthi's roost.
Armed with the skills and the scars they have endured during their captivity, these brothers and sisters in chains has vowed revenge on their Argonian captors and their allies.
They kept the names branded to them by the evil reptiles as a reminder of all the pain and torment they have suffered, and have joined the Aldmeri Dominion as a means to an end... Paint Tamriel with Argonian blood.
[*] Sliced-in-Prison | Bosmer | Suction Blade
[*] Hunk-in-Prison | Breton | Hunky Blade
[*] Muse-in-Prison | Altmer | Healing Babe
[*] Hot-in-Prison | Breton | HotBod Killer1 -
Soulac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I wonder what happens if the Emperor shoot on the zerg stacking on the flags.
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AriBoh✭✭✭✭✭xDOVAHKIINx wrote: »
You saw a white dwarf star drawing material off its companion binary star causing a plasma explosion?khele23eb17
Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.
ZOS_AmeliaR admin
Ultimately, any method of entering an enemy keep without breaking down the door is considered an exploit. Thanks for checking!
tinythinker
"I used to be a healer once, but then I took a Wrobel to the knee"0 -
jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭xDOVAHKIINx wrote: »
i knowe i remember when i could spam shield and then invasion. What has this game become!??www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO41 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭I do not like these changes at all.
Why not just take away all class abilities and give everyone a greatsword, bow, and a ballista.
Way to come down to the common denominator.
.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
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Gravord✭✭✭✭✭Yeah it sure did. Because those big siege engines should only tickle us mighty warriors right?
Also those sieges should take whole crew to operate them and several hours to be placed if you want be so realistic. Not a single nab pulling them out of pocket in 1 second and then calling for dmg like the real life siege weapon could do.0 -
Niberion✭✭✭with this big number damage from siege weapons should bind to it bigger inconvenience, long deployment time and only in keeps/building radius, similarly fixed oil who causes damage by flying down and not on a flat surface.Edited by Niberion on March 24, 2015 6:18AM0 -
Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭I managed to participate in a half-dozen keep battles tonight. I died to siege once, but only because someone CC'd me first. The rest of the time, I just... moved out of red.Snit AD Sorc
Ratbag AD Warden Tank
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skarvika✭✭✭✭
Easy to do, sure...but not if you're doing something where you're going to be fairly landlocked such as being in combat, on a siege, rezzing another player, snared, rooted etc...I managed to participate in a half-dozen keep battles tonight. I died to siege once, but only because someone CC'd me first. The rest of the time, I just... moved out of red.
A good solution imo would be limiting how often siege weapons can be fired. Of course, the endurance of siege equipment should be increased as well so that it's not just 3 shots before breaking down.QQing is a full time job0 -
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✭PeggymoeXD wrote: »Seriously, and I've said this plenty of times, the only thing you should be mad about is that this damage wasn't implemented until now. It's siege. It's a 5 ton boulder dipped in oil and lit on fire, and it just hit you in the face at high speed. Think about how often in a siege you were able to just run around in the aoe's without a care. We all got used to it, but it ticked a lot of players off. The point of siege was to hit walls and be a minor inconvenience while trying to go through the breach in the wall. Now it's useful, and low and behold, the players are crying.
If you're going to post a screenshot of the damage you received from a ballista bolt, be sure to include your 17k health, 2300 wp/sp damage, your 5k armor, and your stage 4 vampirism, too. Most of the people whining are glass cannons, and have been used to just stacking damage and being able to get away with it. Now players are upset they may have to invest in some fire resist, heavy armor, or even a completely different set of gear, sacrificing some of that precious damage.
I personally love this change. And yes, I've been wrecked multiple times by siege already, smiling as I read my death recap. This is something that should have been in the game for a long time. There are solutions to the problems people are whining about, that they are failing to realize. If you're being sieged, siege back. Don't stand in AoE's. Consider investing in some more stamina to be able to actually roll.
wait what? roll? I know. roll dodge, you'll have to work your little bambi legs out some, but you'll learn eventually. I feel that this change is a step in the right direction. This kind of damage will enable smaller groups to capture objectives, while big obvious groups are under siege. Defense is now possible with smaller numbers, and may even allow groups to break off during defense to flag another objective, breaking up the enemy zerg, or forcing them to choose to have to defend or attack. I'm sure this post will come under flak. If you disagree, you are required to state the following motto before proceeding with your reply.
I am a zergling. I have low health, low armor, low survivability. But given that I am a zergling, I need only to spam light attacks while running alongside 30 of my fellow zerglings to get by. I mindlessly follow the AP farmer, annointed by the AP Divines, who was nice enough to recruit me straight from zone chat. I will do whatever he says, for he treats me nicely (as long as I join his ts.) I am weak, but together, all 40 of us are strong. We are the zerg, and I am a zergling.
You forgot the...
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Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.3 -
Ryuho✭✭✭✭PeggymoeXD wrote: »Seriously, and I've said this plenty of times, the only thing you should be mad about is that this damage wasn't implemented until now. It's siege. It's a 5 ton boulder dipped in oil and lit on fire, and it just hit you in the face at high speed. Think about how often in a siege you were able to just run around in the aoe's without a care. We all got used to it, but it ticked a lot of players off. The point of siege was to hit walls and be a minor inconvenience while trying to go through the breach in the wall. Now it's useful, and low and behold, the players are crying.
If you're going to post a screenshot of the damage you received from a ballista bolt, be sure to include your 17k health, 2300 wp/sp damage, your 5k armor, and your stage 4 vampirism, too. Most of the people whining are glass cannons, and have been used to just stacking damage and being able to get away with it. Now players are upset they may have to invest in some fire resist, heavy armor, or even a completely different set of gear, sacrificing some of that precious damage.
I personally love this change. And yes, I've been wrecked multiple times by siege already, smiling as I read my death recap. This is something that should have been in the game for a long time. There are solutions to the problems people are whining about, that they are failing to realize. If you're being sieged, siege back. Don't stand in AoE's. Consider investing in some more stamina to be able to actually roll. wait what? roll? I know. roll dodge, you'll have to work your little bambi legs out some, but you'll learn eventually. I feel that this change is a step in the right direction. This kind of damage will enable smaller groups to capture objectives, while big obvious groups are under siege. Defense is now possible with smaller numbers, and may even allow groups to break off during defense to flag another objective, breaking up the enemy zerg, or forcing them to choose to have to defend or attack. I'm sure this post will come under flak. If you disagree, you are required to state the following motto before proceeding with your reply.
I am a zergling. I have low health, low armor, low survivability. But given that I am a zergling, I need only to spam light attacks while running alongside 30 of my fellow zerglings to get by. I mindlessly follow the AP farmer, annointed by the AP Divines, who was nice enough to recruit me straight from zone chat. I will do whatever he says, for he treats me nicely (as long as I join his ts.) I am weak, but together, all 40 of us are strong. We are the zerg, and I am a zergling.
Haha, AWESOME, so true!The Farron family team (EU)
sorcerer - Rubeus Farron AR31
templar - Selene Farron AR27
nightblade - Ryuho Farron AR25
stamplar - Nura Farron AR10
stamsorcerer - Kitty Farron AR14 (adopted member)
DK - Ryu Farron AR17
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope 7 heavy, 35K health but taloned fighting DK's and time to break out of talons and roll twice with the DK's I am fighting on my Templar is where it can happen because they take no damage from the siege weapons.
The smurfs were using that tactic last night, it works well.Edited by TequilaFire on March 24, 2015 10:44AM0
