Rise of the planet of the Sorcs

Lava_Croft

Ezareth wrote: »

It's a full time job fighting these people off.

PEBCAK.

You don't have to fight anyone.

Armitas

I have a feeling that the global cyrodiil nerfs, -15% damage, -15% shields etc, was a bandaid to push the pts to live. I suspect there will be a big post rebalance addressing all parts of the global cyrodiil nerfs.

FENGRUSH

Armitas wrote: »

I have a feeling that the global cyrodiil nerfs, -15% damage, -15% shields etc, was a bandaid to push the pts to live. I suspect there will be a big post rebalance addressing all parts of the global cyrodiil nerfs.

I agree. I think theyll take their sweet time, but I think something will be in the pipeline.

More of these threads will probably accelerate a change though. I dont think making light armor builds dependant on shield spamming was a really good idea anyway. But thats where it seems to be at, and sorcs shield/survival is tied to their damage making "choices" pretty straight forward for them at the moment. That is generally against their philosophy of skill/class design.

Erock25

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I should dig out some of those 1.6 pts threads where I was called insane, repeatedly, for asserting that Sorcs were pretty well off now, rather than unplayably gimped as they all kept insisting . Those would be funny to look over now, eh?

So wait ... you had an opinion about something before that people both agreed and disagreed with and you have an opinion about something now that people both agree and disagree with and you're congratulating yourself on that? Get over yourself and take your Sorc out to Cyrodiil. Very funny how many DKs are the loudest forum warriors when it comes to nerfsorc threads.

Cinbri

Just a small add - i don't know bug is it or intended ninja change (didn't find about it in patchnotes), but Defensive Stance is not reflecting Crushing Shock. Can anyone else confirm it? Personally for me it is huge savior vs sorcs now= use damage shileds vs crushing shock and other non-reflect co. and not be afraid that it will waste DS, that will reflect 12k Crytal back on sorc, light attacks however reflected by DS.

Cinnamon_Spider

Cinbri wrote: »

Just a small add - i don't know bug is it or intended ninja change (didn't find about it in patchnotes), but Defensive Stance is not reflecting Crushing Shock. Can anyone else confirm it? Personally for me it is huge savior vs sorcs now= use damage shileds vs crushing shock and other non-reflect co. and not be afraid that it will waste DS, that will reflect 12k Crytal back on sorc, light attacks however reflected by DS.

Defensive stance is reflecting crushing shock back to the caster.

AhPook_Is_Here

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

You mean, similar to the way Templar's Healing and Damage are based on the same resource pool? Or perhaps you mean, it's similar to the way every stamina build increases their ability to block and dodge roll? You're referring to how pretty much everyone can simultaneously build for DPS and Survivability?

I was referring to shields and dps specifically. All you whiny sorc ***** get your shield based off your magika pool. Who else gets another 10k hp pool by increasing their dps? And lets put a templar at the same stats the typical sorc has in cyrodiil - 20k hp 30k magika 10k stamina. that templar gets a measly 6k shield. 6000. thats 2 non crit crushing shocks or 1 non crit crystal frag from a sorc with the same stats. And you know what? that crystal frag will knock me on my ass too with no shield free for you to shock me into a little pile of ash. Even adding another shield into the fray wont help the templar more because even if you dont break the shields I'm continually having to refresh my 6 second blazing shield, which loses half of its dreaded utility for 'returning damage' cause its melee range and no sorc on this forum of min/maxing crybaby pc master race tosspots is even thinking about being melee cause then you couldn't hide behind your OP infinite shields and rake in the AP.

Templar calling a sorc OP? Someone might just say this is a case of l2p.

Phoenix99 wrote: »

so the main problem with sorc from day 1 was the how broken is bolt escape in a PvP situation. Ability to engage and disengage at will is huge and unless you snare the dude in the magic null blob ultimate you kind of have to rely on some heavy burst... it was always the story, no wonder that once dks and vamps were put to more balanced state there is a lot of sorc spam *shrug* and on top of superior mobility they can dish out huge burst dmg, what's not to love? you engage if you don't burst, you disengage, then regen, and then engage again and fish for a crit on a crystal shard for 15k+ dmg so then you can finish your target with other spells

That's what night blades do though. If they took shadow cloak and shadow image and fear away I think i'd be OK losing streak/be. Escape removal would have to be uniform. There is no reason I can think of that a night-blade should be entitled to escape and sorc should not, the designers clearly saw both as a high mobility class from launch and people made their decisions based on those facts.

Davadin

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

yes please.

NOT nerf, but jeezus, tune dem down a bit, bro @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I can get pawned in less than 3 sec by those "charged light attack" and stuff, and thanks to lag, before i can crit-rush them, I'm no more than a pile of dust.....

EskimoBrother

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

MADshadowman wrote: »

Yoohoooo @xsorusb14_ESO !

I remember our 1v1 and how you said "they should really nerf resto heavy attacks"

Anything else you want nerfed?

anything that works against him needs to be nerfed. dudes been crying all over the forums for nerfs, sounds like he's just being outplayed. Instead of working to get better he just gets on the forums to cry about it.

see previous post on subject, I can point you even to ZoS response on the subject of this. Continue to be upset that I point out obvious things that everyone but certain unskilled players see

Oh i'm not upset, if they happen to nerf anything I use I will just find other ways to outplay my opponents instead of whining about it on the forums. I'm sorry you're incapable of fixing your *** build though, keep crying for nerfs.

TBois

As a Stam sorc I don't find myself having more trouble with magicka sorcs than other classes.

Cinnamon_Spider

Davadin wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

yes please.

NOT nerf, but jeezus, tune dem down a bit, bro @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I can get pawned in less than 3 sec by those "charged light attack" and stuff, and thanks to lag, before i can crit-rush them, I'm no more than a pile of dust.....

You're a DK and you're getting killed in 3 seconds by light attacks? If this were me, I'd be asking myself what I did wrong with my build/gear and trying something new.

Imdrefan

I can see valid points on both sides of this argument. But I would like to see the up-time on hardened ward reduced.

I run 5L 2H templar build and when I'm solo, if I don't have blazing shield up every 6 seconds I will die while spamming my cc break button desperately trying to recast blazing shield.

Snit

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

You're a DK and you're getting killed in 3 seconds by light attacks? If this were me, I'd be asking myself what I did wrong with my build/gear and trying something new.

He likely means Overload (sorc ultimate) light attacks. They hit hard. They are also slow projectiles which are relatively easy to dodge and subject to reflection. It is pretty interesting if a DK, of all classes, is consistently dying to these.

(and I know you know this -- more or less agreeing with you and expanding your point)

Makkir

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Can't believe how many nerf babies have rallied around a guy who lost a 3v1. I would not want to associate myself with that level of badness. And good ole' @xsorusb14_ESO. A DK calling other classes OP. Now I've seen the bottom.

So I take it you think dks are overpowered?

Good players make amazing DKs. But no worries, no one is expecting you to know that.

So you don't think dks are overpowered, and you think good players make dks amazing. So why did you bring up dks calling other classes overpowered?

Either you think dks are so powerful they shouldn't complain about other classes, or you think I'm a good player and thus shouldn't complain as a dk about other classes.

You guys are talking strictly PvP I take it.
Because as far as PvE is concerned (which is the majority of the player base), Sorcs are behind, well beind, the other classes.

Pancake-Tragedy

Makkir wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Can't believe how many nerf babies have rallied around a guy who lost a 3v1. I would not want to associate myself with that level of badness. And good ole' @xsorusb14_ESO. A DK calling other classes OP. Now I've seen the bottom.

So I take it you think dks are overpowered?

Good players make amazing DKs. But no worries, no one is expecting you to know that.

So you don't think dks are overpowered, and you think good players make dks amazing. So why did you bring up dks calling other classes overpowered?

Either you think dks are so powerful they shouldn't complain about other classes, or you think I'm a good player and thus shouldn't complain as a dk about other classes.

You guys are talking strictly PvP I take it.
Because as far as PvE is concerned (which is the majority of the player base), Sorcs are behind, well beind, the other classes.

This is in the alliance war forum, so yes this is about PvP.

Teargrants

EVANWSEATHub17_ESO wrote: »

I can see valid points on both sides of this argument. But I would like to see the up-time on hardened ward reduced.

I run 5L 2H templar build and when I'm solo, if I don't have blazing shield up every 6 seconds I will die while spamming my cc break button desperately trying to recast blazing shield.

Why?

Igneous shield lasts 20 sec, harness magicka lasts 25 sec, elude lasts 20 sec.

Makkir

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Can't believe how many nerf babies have rallied around a guy who lost a 3v1. I would not want to associate myself with that level of badness. And good ole' @xsorusb14_ESO. A DK calling other classes OP. Now I've seen the bottom.

So I take it you think dks are overpowered?

Good players make amazing DKs. But no worries, no one is expecting you to know that.

So you don't think dks are overpowered, and you think good players make dks amazing. So why did you bring up dks calling other classes overpowered?

Either you think dks are so powerful they shouldn't complain about other classes, or you think I'm a good player and thus shouldn't complain as a dk about other classes.

You guys are talking strictly PvP I take it.
Because as far as PvE is concerned (which is the majority of the player base), Sorcs are behind, well beind, the other classes.

This is in the alliance war forum, so yes this is about PvP.

Yeah I just realized that. I was actually reading posts from a certain user rather than browsing by forum.
My bad

Imdrefan

Teargrants wrote: »

EVANWSEATHub17_ESO wrote: »

I can see valid points on both sides of this argument. But I would like to see the up-time on hardened ward reduced.

I run 5L 2H templar build and when I'm solo, if I don't have blazing shield up every 6 seconds I will die while spamming my cc break button desperately trying to recast blazing shield.

Why?

Igneous shield lasts 20 sec, harness magicka lasts 25 sec, elude lasts 20 sec.

Fair enough. I would like Blazing shield up time increased to be on par with everything else. Good idea Tear.

/endoutofplacetemplarrequest

cozmon3c_ESO

i get owned through my shields by all manner of stamina builds built for damage. tanks are tanks and are built for sustain and should not be complaining about shields here, if you want to take damage, you should not deal massive damage.

magicka builds on the other hands are way weaker then stam builds in all classes, each has there nich in survivability and if you are not taking advantage of them then thats your own shortfall of your class, NB evasion shield thing/cloak (forever)/familiar teleport , Sorc Bolt/Hardened ward, DK Igneous sheild/RS/GDB, Temp BOL/Sun Shield. the advantage of the templar and the dk is that they can choose any weapons they want because they have good class heals where the NB and Sorc are forced to use Resto staff if they want to even be competative.

Stam builds, all have roll dodge for near forever, block (mitigates crap ton of damage and prevents cc). higher spell armor and spell resist. can cast abilities while defending with block and dodge roll (OP? maybe).

all magicka classes have to do more work atm to live compared to stam builds getting 2 extra spamable abilities on top of there 10 abilites and 2 ultimates with higher damage mitigation and higher damage output.

so people complaining about sorcs being op, i just cant see where they are coming from. you were just outplayed son, many of the sorcs you see out there were playing them when they werent doing much damage in 1.5 and still killing people. now they can do damage (all be it less then stam builds) and are now able to show how skilled they really are. they had more practice being good at the bottom, which makes them amazing when closer to being on par with other classes.

Maulkin

What he said ^^

I also don't understand what the issue is. The light armor survivability through shields is much worse in 1.6 than 1.5

- In 1.5 I had 2.5k Max Magicka which gave me a 1.1k Hardened Ward. I also had 3k HP
- In 1.6 I have 30k Max Magicka and because of the 15% nerf to shields I get an 11k Haredened Ward. My HP is now 20k In Cyrodiil

So I now have less HP, less mitigation but same shields, while people still seem to be hitting for 6k-10k no crit attacks. Cool, super buff for sorc survivability those shields in 1.6, absolutely amazing.

People who talk about "offensive" attributes used for defence, are talking nonsense. Stamina is an offesive attribute yet it's also used to mitigate damage via block and roll dodge and now heals too (Vigor). Magicka is also used for heals, damage shields and countless utility spells. So how exactly is either an "offensive" attribute only.

The choice of stacking HP was removed for LA users by ZOS when they decided that the LA mitigation should be 0. If I could mitigate +20% of Magicka damage, like I could in 1.5, I would have been tempted to use HP. What good is HP when I'm wearing Legendary quality paper towels?

If Sorc Shields are made to scale off health, you'll have Magicka Sorcs trying to re-balance with more HP which will leave them:
a) doing less damage, due to magicka loss
b) have less sustain, due to magicka loss and
c) actually decrease the hit points of damage they can take before dying thanks to lower shields and less sustain on them (b)

So actually let's nerf the Sorcs across the board because those 2Hers that dodge-roll all the way to the nearest keep when in trouble, sometimes have to take more than 1 second to kill them. Boohoo

PS. I have no issue with nerfing shield-stacking of Class Shield + Harness Magicka or any other conjured shield proc through sets or skills. Healing Ward however is supposed to be a heal. Gimme a freaking heal so I don't have to cast a giant shield that heals after 6". And I'm personally all for giving NBs a class shield.

Xsorus

EskimoBrother wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

MADshadowman wrote: »

Yoohoooo @xsorusb14_ESO !

I remember our 1v1 and how you said "they should really nerf resto heavy attacks"

Anything else you want nerfed?

anything that works against him needs to be nerfed. dudes been crying all over the forums for nerfs, sounds like he's just being outplayed. Instead of working to get better he just gets on the forums to cry about it.

see previous post on subject, I can point you even to ZoS response on the subject of this. Continue to be upset that I point out obvious things that everyone but certain unskilled players see

Oh i'm not upset, if they happen to nerf anything I use I will just find other ways to outplay my opponents instead of whining about it on the forums. I'm sorry you're incapable of fixing your *** build though, keep crying for nerfs.

You're so not upset you decided to post in this thread crying about someone else pointing out certain sorc changes that need made (mainly just hardened ward scaling off health). Is that how not upset you are?

Pretty funny

Davadin

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

yes please.

NOT nerf, but jeezus, tune dem down a bit, bro @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I can get pawned in less than 3 sec by those "charged light attack" and stuff, and thanks to lag, before i can crit-rush them, I'm no more than a pile of dust.....

You're a DK and you're getting killed in 3 seconds by light attacks? If this were me, I'd be asking myself what I did wrong with my build/gear and trying something new.

i'm VR13 with green med armors, having about 10k phys resistance and 15k spell resistance. my health is around 18k.

3x "Boosted Light attack" or whatever that skill name is, each is ~8k damage. the NAME is "xxxxx light attack", not an actual light attack. i'm not a sorc, somebody help me here.
or
2x Snipe, first is 10k, second is 14k.
or
....

and i came back from 3 mth hiatus.

i'm not making excuses, but holy hell, you can't deny those hits like a truck.

PS: i crit 15k with wrecking blow from stealthed, so seriously, i'm not whining.

Davadin

Snit wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

You're a DK and you're getting killed in 3 seconds by light attacks? If this were me, I'd be asking myself what I did wrong with my build/gear and trying something new.

He likely means Overload (sorc ultimate) light attacks. They hit hard. They are also slow projectiles which are relatively easy to dodge and subject to reflection. It is pretty interesting if a DK, of all classes, is consistently dying to these.

(and I know you know this -- more or less agreeing with you and expanding your point)

"Overload".

Thank you.

Yes, i was lagging. No, i didn't say i consistently died by these. i happened to die twice, one right after another last night. and died once the night before too. and i'm not a great player. and yes, i took off flap flap wings from my bar since the stamina boost and the flap-flap 4x repel only changes.

Erock25

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

MADshadowman wrote: »

Yoohoooo @xsorusb14_ESO !

I remember our 1v1 and how you said "they should really nerf resto heavy attacks"

Anything else you want nerfed?

anything that works against him needs to be nerfed. dudes been crying all over the forums for nerfs, sounds like he's just being outplayed. Instead of working to get better he just gets on the forums to cry about it.

see previous post on subject, I can point you even to ZoS response on the subject of this. Continue to be upset that I point out obvious things that everyone but certain unskilled players see

Oh i'm not upset, if they happen to nerf anything I use I will just find other ways to outplay my opponents instead of whining about it on the forums. I'm sorry you're incapable of fixing your *** build though, keep crying for nerfs.

You're so not upset you decided to post in this thread crying about someone else pointing out certain sorc changes that need made (mainly just hardened ward scaling off health). Is that how not upset you are?

Pretty funny

So he is crying but what are you doing? What level is your Sorc at now? Can't wait until you get him to at least mid VRs and get some gear on him and see how it really is in Cyrodiil.

Xsorus

Erock25 wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

EskimoBrother wrote: »

MADshadowman wrote: »

Yoohoooo @xsorusb14_ESO !

I remember our 1v1 and how you said "they should really nerf resto heavy attacks"

Anything else you want nerfed?

anything that works against him needs to be nerfed. dudes been crying all over the forums for nerfs, sounds like he's just being outplayed. Instead of working to get better he just gets on the forums to cry about it.

see previous post on subject, I can point you even to ZoS response on the subject of this. Continue to be upset that I point out obvious things that everyone but certain unskilled players see

Oh i'm not upset, if they happen to nerf anything I use I will just find other ways to outplay my opponents instead of whining about it on the forums. I'm sorry you're incapable of fixing your *** build though, keep crying for nerfs.

You're so not upset you decided to post in this thread crying about someone else pointing out certain sorc changes that need made (mainly just hardened ward scaling off health). Is that how not upset you are?

Pretty funny

So he is crying but what are you doing? What level is your Sorc at now? Can't wait until you get him to at least mid VRs and get some gear on him and see how it really is in Cyrodiil.

Not crying about other people pointing out overpowered things that multiple people have posted on and even ZoS agreed on. That's for sure.

As for Sorc..not high..I've been trying to level it before going to work (did 4 12 hour shifts)..I got next 2 days off to level it though.

eventide03b14a_ESO

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

Isn't stamina used for both offense and defense?

Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »

What the OP says is true, sorcs will just wreck ur face all day in pvp.

If you don't know how to play the game yes.

I notice how nobody is complaining about 17k spammed Lethal Arrow. Not too many sorcerers can withstand three of those back to back.

Durham

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Shield stacking is not a sorcerer issue. No sorc can shield stack without the use of other abilities available to every class. Any DK or templar can have just as many shields up as a sorc at any given time.

Here is an OP shield stack:

Wear whitestrakes gear and use (2H or S&B) and resto - enchant your weapons with hardening. Charge in with shielded assault (or crit rush into brawler) if they burn through all that and your health goes down, whitestrakes will proc, immediately hit dampen magicka then pop barrier then pop a healing ward on top of barrier while your health is still low. Your weapon enchant shields should have proced by then giving you even more shields.

So many shields! Clearly this proves that sorcerer needs to get nerfed!

Yes sorcs have one strong damage shield, but it doesnt stack on itself. When you see a sorcerer with a blue health bar that goes across the screen they are using annulment or dampen and it won't even stop your weapon damage.

This is like saying that sorcs are OP because they use crushing shock and nirnhoned/sharpened/whatever trait is bugged next.

I think the main issue is that people have it in their minds that sorcs are supposed to be glass cannons with decent DPS but they are supposed to disintegrate like wet tissue paper if hit by a strong breeze. If you hit a sorc with a few light attacks and the sorc doesn't immediately explode then its time for another QQ thread.

If you don't like the shield meta, then tell ZOS to incentivize hybrid builds instead of just crying for nerfs. I'd much rather be a stamina sorc than a shield stacking, stick wielding, dress parade but I can't run a hybrid build anymore. I don't have enough resources to hold the attribute numbers in both magicka and stam, and have either of those hit for any decent amount of damage. Expert mage passive was also nerfed so my magicka costs as a stamina sorc are increased as well. Because of the health nerf, 15K of my resources are stolen and i won't get them back until I have about 300 champion points. So i don a dress like every other sorc is forced to.

This is not a sorc issue, its a no hardcaps + 15k less resoruces issue. The same issue is causing perma dodge roll and 15k wreaking blow spam.

But yeah nerfing sorc will fix all that.

Yes I can shield stack but I can't get away when things get out of control plus I cannot shield stack like a sorc I do not have the magicka regen a sorc has...

... You have the best get way.. You are best class to stack shields good you have good damage.. Good CC..

Light armer sorc would be a must in my small man setup..

The Nerf bat will come it always does

eventide03b14a_ESO

Joy_Division wrote: »

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

So, 3 of you not only couldn't kill one person, but you all got killed by that one person. I dunno bruh, sounds like a L2P issue to me. Regardless of class make up, any 3 equally skilled players will kill 1 player in a 3v1. Coming to the forums and complaining that you couldn't 3v1 someone doesn't help your case.

Potatoes gonna potate.

Oh get lost with your l2p crud. I been playin pvp b4 u were born. Read the post, read between the lines, not just the one line, b4 you retort with your cliche non-answer.

I planted this post to get some insight, not noob-sight.

What insight were you expected to get by making a ridiculous OP? It's hard to take your post seriously when you talk about invincible sorcs pwning everything in sight and Santa on acid. You just sound like someone who got beat and is frustrated.

Every class has a screw sorc option and if you slot it and use it, most sorcs will run away looking for an easier target. Templar: eclipse. DK: scales. NB: fear.

^ QFT. And most people use those skills anyway. Sorry but L2P sorcerers are not OP.

Snit

Davadin wrote: »

i'm VR13 with green med armors, having about 10k phys resistance and 15k spell resistance. my health is around 18k.

3x "Boosted Light attack" or whatever that skill name is, each is ~8k damage. the NAME is "xxxxx light attack", not an actual light attack. i'm not a sorc, somebody help me here.

It's Overload, an ultimate. You're a DK -- Reflect it. If you don't slot Scales... well, first of all, thank you for not slotting Scales Second, though, Defensive Posture will work. Failing both of those, you can dodge the projectiles as they meander in your direction.

Sorc damage features many slow-moving projectiles (the most prominent is Crystal Frags). There's no easier form of damage to counter in TESO.

Ezareth

Davadin wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

yes please.

NOT nerf, but jeezus, tune dem down a bit, bro @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I can get pawned in less than 3 sec by those "charged light attack" and stuff, and thanks to lag, before i can crit-rush them, I'm no more than a pile of dust.....

Your directional key. Try hitting it twice in *any* direction real fast sometime the next time you see one of them sorcs getting ready to "pawn" you.

Durham wrote: »

Yes I can shield stack but I can't get away when things get out of control plus I cannot shield stack like a sorc I do not have the magicka regen a sorc has...

... You have the best get way.. You are best class to stack shields good you have good damage.. Good CC..

Light armer sorc would be a must in my small man setup..

The Nerf bat will come it always does

Yes that "Sorc" Magic regen and shield stacking is so OP. I don't even "Stack" shields. I use a single shield on each of my bars. One shield for healing, one shield for damage mitigation.

We have "good damage" yet a single freaking spammable ability that *everyone* gets and actually *gives* magicka to most people completely negates 100% of our class abilities. Got it!

There are so many people posting in this thread with no skill or understanding of game mechanics calling for nerfs that I need to find some way to get them all into Cyrodiil together for my next video.