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The resto staff magicka regeneration is out of control...
bg22
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I get it, it's a super cool concept... And I use it. But the amount of magicka restored after a heavy attack is literally insane.
Do I want to use a resto staff as my 2nd weapon? Absolutely not. But, if I don't I'm gimping myself beyond belief (compared to everyone else).
If this were to be a balanced feature of the game, heavy attacks with melee weapons should restore the equivalent percentage of stamina. Although, I'm not asking for that at all.. What I would rather see is the percentage of magicka returned from a heavy attack with a resto staff lessened.
Do I want to use a resto staff as my 2nd weapon? Absolutely not. But, if I don't I'm gimping myself beyond belief (compared to everyone else).
If this were to be a balanced feature of the game, heavy attacks with melee weapons should restore the equivalent percentage of stamina. Although, I'm not asking for that at all.. What I would rather see is the percentage of magicka returned from a heavy attack with a resto staff lessened.
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✭✭✭✭✭I dont find it insane at all, infact I hardly ever use it even if it is my 2nd weapon, I use the lightning staff heavy because the dmg is much better with it and it still give me decent magicka. The restostaff dmg is much less.
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Huckdabuck✭✭✭✭✭The nerf this nerf that guy from launch is back I see. I'm guessing Archeage wasn't all that you thought it would be?
Edited by Huckdabuck on March 20, 2015 6:09PMTexashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
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bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.3 -
asteldian✭✭✭✭The resto has a passive to increase the regen doesn't it? Would be pointless if other weapons gave same amount.
To be fair, aside from healers no one really uses heavy attacks to regain resources anyway so it is not exactly gamebreaking. And frankly, I want my healer to have magicka, so no nerf please5 -
bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Huckdabuck wrote: »The nerf this nerf that guy from launch is back I see. I'm guessing Archeage wasn't all that you thought it would be?
What's funny... Is everything that I mentioned needed fixing, has been fixed.
Ironic that the game is 10x better off than it was.
I guess my ideas weren't so terrible after all.2 -
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Uh, Heavy Attacks from other weapons do restore stamina, for about 3 major patches now, unless it changed and I missed it...I get it, it's a super cool concept... And I use it. But the amount of magicka restored after a heavy attack is literally insane.
Do I want to use a resto staff as my 2nd weapon? Absolutely not. But, if I don't I'm gimping myself beyond belief (compared to everyone else).
If this were to be a balanced feature of the game, heavy attacks with melee weapons should restore the equivalent percentage of stamina. Although, I'm not asking for that at all.. What I would rather see is the percentage of magicka returned from a heavy attack with a resto staff lessened.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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CNDTrae✭✭✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
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bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭The resto has a passive to increase the regen doesn't it? Would be pointless if other weapons gave same amount.
To be fair, aside from healers no one really uses heavy attacks to regain resources anyway so it is not exactly gamebreaking. And frankly, I want my healer to have magicka, so no nerf please
I suppose you haven't been to Cyrodiil. Every player there uses a resto staff for the magicka regen, including me. It's lame.0 -
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✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
Uh, Heavy Attacks from other weapons do restore stamina, for about 3 major patches now, unless it changed and I missed it...I get it, it's a super cool concept... And I use it. But the amount of magicka restored after a heavy attack is literally insane.
Do I want to use a resto staff as my 2nd weapon? Absolutely not. But, if I don't I'm gimping myself beyond belief (compared to everyone else).
If this were to be a balanced feature of the game, heavy attacks with melee weapons should restore the equivalent percentage of stamina. Although, I'm not asking for that at all.. What I would rather see is the percentage of magicka returned from a heavy attack with a resto staff lessened.
They do, but it certainly doesn't seem that it restores nearly as much. Maybe I'm missing something tho?
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bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol0 -
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✭Resto Staff heavys are slower to finish. and have a passive to increase it..
Thats fine.
Baseline all heavys should restore the same relative amount per second... but the Increase passive on Restoration staff is currently fine as it is.Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on March 20, 2015 6:18PMI play every class in every situation. I love them all.0 -
CNDTrae✭✭✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
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✭The resto has a passive to increase the regen doesn't it? Would be pointless if other weapons gave same amount.
To be fair, aside from healers no one really uses heavy attacks to regain resources anyway so it is not exactly gamebreaking. And frankly, I want my healer to have magicka, so no nerf please
I suppose you haven't been to Cyrodiil. Every player there uses a resto staff for the magicka regen, including me. It's lame.
Someone clearly hasn't been to Cyrodiil recently since 1.6 since everyone is using a stamina based weapon....4 -
Huckdabuck✭✭✭✭✭Huckdabuck wrote: »The nerf this nerf that guy from launch is back I see. I'm guessing Archeage wasn't all that you thought it would be?
What's funny... Is everything that I mentioned needed fixing, has been fixed.
Ironic that the game is 10x better off than it was.
I guess my ideas weren't so terrible after all.
Well do us all a favor and start your new stay here with calling for NERFS to the LAG. If ZOS really listens to you as attentively as you think, then maybe....just maybe....we can have a lag free experience once again. Also, if you think this game is 10X better off than it was.....a George Strait song comes to mind.Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
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ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭I get it, it's a super cool concept... And I use it. But the amount of magicka restored after a heavy attack is literally insane.
Do I want to use a resto staff as my 2nd weapon? Absolutely not. But, if I don't I'm gimping myself beyond belief (compared to everyone else).
If this were to be a balanced feature of the game, heavy attacks with melee weapons should restore the equivalent percentage of stamina. Although, I'm not asking for that at all.. What I would rather see is the percentage of magicka returned from a heavy attack with a resto staff lessened.
Heavy attacks with other weapons do restore e.g. stamina...2 -
bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
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✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
Ah now I see, stam bias is biased. You wanna know how I know you're lying?0 -
bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
Ah now I see, stam bias is biased. You wanna know how I know you're lying?
I want to know why you THINK I'm lying.
But I assure you, I'm not.
For the same reason that other things I've complained about have been fixed... I don't complain about things that aren't conceptually broken.0 -
Huckdabuck✭✭✭✭✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
Ah now I see, stam bias is biased. You wanna know how I know you're lying?
I want to know why you THINK I'm lying.
But I assure you, I'm not.
For the same reason that other things I've complained about have been fixed... I don't complain about things that aren't conceptually broken.
Please start complaining about the LAG in Cyrodiil then!Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
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Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
if you are stamina based templar and have LOW magicka, OFC a heavy attack from resto would SEEM to give you a crap ton of magicka back lol silly people are silly.......this is coming from the same guy who cant figure out how xp pots are pay to win. gg people0 -
Rydik✭✭✭✭Do we see hundreds of unkillable guys with resto in PvP, no? Interesting why...Edited by Rydik on March 20, 2015 7:01PM1
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✭✭✭✭✭Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
It sounds as if you want to min-max everything to be the best, which somehow equates to being competitive, but in doing so find the game too easy. If you find the game to be on easy mode with a resto staff, don't use one. They aren't compulsory, and you can play at the level of challenge you think the game should be at. You said you are "gimped" without it, yet plenty of players do well in all areas of the game without using that weapon. I don't agree with the implication that your notion of what competitive means should be used as the measuring stick for game balance.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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✭Huckdabuck wrote: »Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
Ah now I see, stam bias is biased. You wanna know how I know you're lying?
I want to know why you THINK I'm lying.
But I assure you, I'm not.
For the same reason that other things I've complained about have been fixed... I don't complain about things that aren't conceptually broken.
Please start complaining about the LAG in Cyrodiil then!
This would fall on def ears... They know it's a problem. It's been recognized by a thousand players, over and over and over again.
It's a terrible problem. One of the worst. And I'm sure they're TRYING to fix it... But to no avail. Which bafles me be that in beta, you could have 500 ppl on screen and there wasn't an issue. Now, if you have 40 people on screen fighting, the game implodes. Twice.
I would think that since they claim to have had 1,000,000 subscribers, x $15/month would equate to the funds to have the best servers on the planet. I suppose I'm wrong.
Since that's not going to be fixed any time soon... I'd rather complain about little things that really irritate a LOT of players. Hence this topic.0 -
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✭Huckdabuck wrote: »Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
So why bring this up?
Because it's ridiculous. I'm a stam spec'd, 7/7 medium templar, and unable to run out of magicka when using a staff and spamming magicka abilities. That shouldn't be the case. If I can run endless shields with this set up, I can't imagine how insanely easy it would be if I were LA spec'd.
I guess I'm a minority with not wanting a corny easy-mode game where resource management is a laughable matter. My DK buddies agree that it's equally as laughable... GDB+resto=laughably unkillable for days. Just as Shield+resto= laughably unkillable for days.
Take the magicka staff regen out of the equation and there's no way to accomplish the same relative task. Thus, as I said earlier, I'm forced to run a staff to be competitive. That should not be the case.
Ah now I see, stam bias is biased. You wanna know how I know you're lying?
I want to know why you THINK I'm lying.
But I assure you, I'm not.
For the same reason that other things I've complained about have been fixed... I don't complain about things that aren't conceptually broken.
Please start complaining about the LAG in Cyrodiil then!
This would fall on def ears... They know it's a problem. It's been recognized by a thousand players, over and over and over again.
It's a terrible problem. One of the worst. And I'm sure they're TRYING to fix it... But to no avail. Which bafles me be that in beta, you could have 500 ppl on screen and there wasn't an issue. Now, if you have 40 people on screen fighting, the game implodes. Twice.
I would think that since they claim to have had 1,000,000 subscribers, x $15/month would equate to the funds to have the best servers on the planet. I suppose I'm wrong.
Since that's not going to be fixed any time soon... I'd rather complain about little things that really irritate a LOT of players. Hence this topic.
by a lot of players you mean just you? Not trying to sound like a D, but I hardly ever see stamina people running around with restos to be competitive lol1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.Ok, don't nerf it. Then give me the equivalent in stamina when I use a melee weapon. I don't want to be forced to use a staff to be competitive, and as it stands that's the case.
Find a templar friend and group with them. Stamina issue solved. You wont even lose dps like you would with using the resto staff.
I am a templar. lol
Yeah, but the shards synergy doesn't work on yourself.The Moot Councillor0
