nerevarine1138 wrote: »I fail to understand the point of this. There have been plenty of posts on this topic, and it's clear that most of the community doesn't want pay-to-win items. No need for ultimatums.
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Not an ultimatum. Just making sure that this popular point of view is made clear to the Development team.
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Not an ultimatum. Just making sure that this popular point of view is made clear to the Development team.
So...you are of the opinion that the Development team was somehow previously oblivious to this point of view prior to this point and is only now due to your intervention somehow magically enlightened forevermore?
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »I fail to understand the point of this. There have been plenty of posts on this topic, and it's clear that most of the community doesn't want pay-to-win items. No need for ultimatums.
Not an ultimatum. Just making sure that this popular point of view is made clear to the Development team.
Well if the sarcasm was too thick, I can happily spell it out.
1) Your post reads as extremely disrespectful to the devs (as a computer programmer myself, I am biased and will freely admit to said bias).
2) There are a TON of these posts on this EXACT topic already as was pointed out by nevarine - which you chose to sluff over with a statement that again reads as disrespectful.
Spamming said "important" topic has never been proven to have any weight on reality. Rather than make yet another thread - why not continue one of the multitude in existence, collect all discussion and like minds in one place so you may reasonably have an account of who feels what, and then leave it up to the devs who will "do whatever they want with their game anyway"?
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Not an ultimatum. Just making sure that this popular point of view is made clear to the Development team.
So...you are of the opinion that the Development team was somehow previously oblivious to this point of view prior to this point and is only now due to your intervention somehow magically enlightened forevermore?
Well even though it is hard to cut through the sarcasm in your post to get at what you re trying to put forth...still not sure if there is a point or not.
These topics are important to some people so they post here, on these forums, but when someone such as your self tries to put people down for posting their opinion it does draw focus away from the topic.
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »First things first.... I am not Trolling here and not trying to provoke discontent...
It has been stated over and over again on Tamriel Unlimited ,the former E.S.O. web page, that Crown store items will be Conveyance and Cosmetic ONLY.
Many of us here are just letting you know that we will hold you too those statements.
If Tamriel Unlimited, does even a "trial run" with Crown Store items, that can considered to be " Pay To Win items", You Will see a large drop in your player base.
With all things being equal, This is your game and you can do with it what you want to; just giving you a heads-up.
How about the rest of you out there?
DanielMaxwell wrote: »nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »First things first.... I am not Trolling here and not trying to provoke discontent...
It has been stated over and over again on Tamriel Unlimited ,the former E.S.O. web page, that Crown store items will be Conveyance and Cosmetic ONLY.
Many of us here are just letting you know that we will hold you too those statements.
If Tamriel Unlimited, does even a "trial run" with Crown Store items, that can considered to be " Pay To Win items", You Will see a large drop in your player base.
With all things being equal, This is your game and you can do with it what you want to; just giving you a heads-up.
How about the rest of you out there?
The developement team are not the ones who will decide what goes into the crown store , but the upper management will make that decision who are more concerned with making as large a profit as possible , as fast as possible.
Zershar_Vemod wrote: »50% xp boosts are coming.
It's already too late OP.
nobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »Zershar_Vemod wrote: »50% xp boosts are coming.
It's already too late OP.
I hope not.
Never give up hope.
Yes, you arenobertpaulb16_ESO wrote: »First things first.... I am not Trolling here and not trying to provoke discontent...
Oh really? Damn.Many of us here are just letting you know that we will hold you too those statements.
Just tell it to everyone - you can't afford a "pay to win" button.If Tamriel Unlimited, does even a "trial run" with Crown Store items, that can considered to be " Pay To Win items", You Will see a large drop in your player base.
Just don't do it.With all things being equal, This is your game and you can do with it what you want to; just giving you a heads-up.
Oh, well...How about the rest of you out there?
NewSentiment wrote: »P2W it objective my friend. Things added in the crown store that might be considered pay-2-win are completely opinion based.
I, personally, don't consider boosts (ex: EXP boosts) and faster mounts as P2W because we all are going to get there eventually given you put the effort and time.
I think a lot of people blur the lines between convenience and P2W. But like I said it's all personal desecration.
firstdecan wrote: »Pay to win is an inevitability. It won't happen tomorrow, but it will happen. It'll be needed so newer players can feel like they're competitive with players who have been here from the start. It will happen for the same reason that other games sell max level characters in their cash shop, or have events that allow players to level super fast. Without it, there will be too much disparity between existing players and new players to draw many new players to the game.
Selling a flaming horse for $25.00 will only go so far, eventually ZoS will have to sell something of tangible benefit to keep their revenue stream.
firstdecan wrote: »Pay to win is an inevitability. It won't happen tomorrow, but it will happen. It'll be needed so newer players can feel like they're competitive with players who have been here from the start. It will happen for the same reason that other games sell max level characters in their cash shop, or have events that allow players to level super fast. Without it, there will be too much disparity between existing players and new players to draw many new players to the game.
Selling a flaming horse for $25.00 will only go so far, eventually ZoS will have to sell something of tangible benefit to keep their revenue stream.
Why do people actually belive this nonsense statement. Tell that to GW2 or Secret World, or DCUO, or NEverwinter, etc, none of them are P2W, yeah they have problems, but being P2W is not one of them.
NewSentiment wrote: »P2W it objective my friend. Things added in the crown store that might be considered pay-2-win are completely opinion based.
I, personally, don't consider boosts (ex: EXP boosts) and faster mounts as P2W because we all are going to get there eventually given you put the effort and time.
I think a lot of people blur the lines between convenience and P2W. But like I said it's all personal desecration.
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »Yeah P2W is coming .......