Auction House ?

NadiusMaximus

The Imperial trading company has been in ES games before, why not have them actually buy and sell items. Not an auction house but more of a large consignment store.

Heromofo

lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

No Auction House. Not now, not ever. Sorry.

Not F2P. Not now, not ever.

Remember that?

That was a key selling point from Matt Frior and how they defended their subscription service lol.

How quickly things changed

Drelkag

lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

No Auction House. Not now, not ever. Sorry.

Not F2P. Not now, not ever.

Remember that?

Games still not F2P, not really supporting your argument.

Sunver

I really like the way it is now. In my opinion it stabilizes the market. There are different prices in different guilds, so theres a way of making profit. There are limited auction slots so people avoid selling at unreasonable prices. There is a constant battle for the best trading NPC, so the top guilds have to perform well in order to stay on top.

In my opinion changing it is not necessary.

Fhaerron

You can join 4 'AH' guilds and then 1 regular guild to play with.

Naivefanboi

Arizona_Willie wrote: »

I keep getting emails wanting me to come back.

Did they ever put an Auction House in the game?

With all the crafting that is core to this game, an AH is a necessity.
Public Guild Stores are NOT the answer.

Ah they actually went 1 better and removed chat logs .... So unless you play on pc, the only way to trade really is thru guild stores, unless you want to attempt run around and try to get in voice chat range of random people and hope they are even in the chat channel ....
Oh or you can use the guild stores .....lol
Luckily i can craft make everything for myself and make plenty gold from theft.

NadiusMaximus

Naivefanboi wrote: »

Arizona_Willie wrote: »

I keep getting emails wanting me to come back.

Did they ever put an Auction House in the game?

With all the crafting that is core to this game, an AH is a necessity.
Public Guild Stores are NOT the answer.

Ah they actually went 1 better and removed chat logs .... So unless you play on pc, the only way to trade really is thru guild stores, unless you want to attempt run around and try to get in voice chat range of random people and hope they are even in the chat channel ....
Oh or you can use the guild stores .....lol
Luckily i can craft make everything for myself and make plenty gold from theft.

Selling stuff on console will sound like the floor on Wallstreet.

"Worms for 100,Worms for 100", other guy says "Lvl 4 gold ring 5 gold" .
Someone yells "v14 jewelry set, 20k" entire area explodes with offers.
It could be cool, but it will get messed up some how.

ActsEight

LOL i love all the rude responses to people in this like...wow,
also i see people saying that an AH would kill the economy but there isn't an economy unless you consider GS which you can't use unless you're in a guild with 50 people

wraith808

ActsEight wrote: »

LOL i love all the rude responses to people in this like...wow,
also i see people saying that an AH would kill the economy but there isn't an economy unless you consider GS which you can't use unless you're in a guild with 50 people

You can buy from any GS that has a kiosk. You can't sell without a GS, but you can definitely buy without one.

Zorrashi

ActsEight wrote: »

LOL i love all the rude responses to people in this like...wow,
also i see people saying that an AH would kill the economy but there isn't an economy unless you consider GS which you can't use unless you're in a guild with 50 people

Well, to be completely honest, guild stores are not as mandatory as many perceive though the lack of a guild store will make trading and selling more tedious. In-person trading and selling is still a thing, and if you are willing to haggle and dedicate time, is still a valuable source of income. In some cases (rare as they are) they are even more singularly profitable to the player than typical guild stores due to the easier ability to adjust prices to the regional market that many within guilds are usually oblivious of due to their wide-spread levels and activities in different regions and zones.

The economy is ever-present regardless of the players guild status. But the main issue is that those outside of guilds loose the ease of item management and convenient item posting. In that at least, they should think of adding another trading-oriented system or maybe adding onto the current one.

Still against the market saturating AH though.

nastuug

Zorrashi wrote: »

ActsEight wrote: »

LOL i love all the rude responses to people in this like...wow,
also i see people saying that an AH would kill the economy but there isn't an economy unless you consider GS which you can't use unless you're in a guild with 50 people

Well, to be completely honest, guild stores are not as mandatory as many perceive though the lack of a guild store will make trading and selling more tedious. In-person trading and selling is still a thing, and if you are willing to haggle and dedicate time, is still a valuable source of income.In some cases (rare as they are) they are even more singularly profitable to the player than typical guild stores due to the easier ability to adjust prices to the regional market that many within guilds are usually oblivious of due to their wide-spread levels and activities in different regions and zones.

Except on console where that can't happen, lol.

BigM

You want AH go back to WOW. I love how they have it here. If a guild isn't working out for you, quit and find a different one. I have 5 great guilds and my stuff sells fast. Normally on a bad day I pull in about 5k.

Zorrashi

nastuug wrote: »

Zorrashi wrote: »

ActsEight wrote: »

LOL i love all the rude responses to people in this like...wow,
also i see people saying that an AH would kill the economy but there isn't an economy unless you consider GS which you can't use unless you're in a guild with 50 people

Well, to be completely honest, guild stores are not as mandatory as many perceive though the lack of a guild store will make trading and selling more tedious. In-person trading and selling is still a thing, and if you are willing to haggle and dedicate time, is still a valuable source of income.In some cases (rare as they are) they are even more singularly profitable to the player than typical guild stores due to the easier ability to adjust prices to the regional market that many within guilds are usually oblivious of due to their wide-spread levels and activities in different regions and zones.

Except on console where that can't happen, lol.

And that is why I am against the lack of a text chat. I mean, I know they can just voice chat but then your asking to deal with more than just mere pricing discussion. There is only so much 'shrill' or 'underage' voices people are willing to deal with. Including me. It's nothing against them personally but...those...VOICES.

Sureshawt

Sunver wrote: »

I really like the way it is now. In my opinion it stabilizes the market. There are different prices in different guilds, so theres a way of making profit. There are limited auction slots so people avoid selling at unreasonable prices. There is a constant battle for the best trading NPC, so the top guilds have to perform well in order to stay on top.

In my opinion changing it is not necessary.

Not sure if it really stabilizes the market. I guess it does if you mean by limiting participation and availability through these mechanics.

As for me I very rarely participate because it is an extremely inefficient use of my limited playtime and thus I junk a lot of good drops I'm sure other players could use. GW2 AH proves a properly designed AH can work and work very well for the majority of players instead of a select few guilds.

Ljungstroem

Hello Everyone,

I am quite new to this game as I am only level 40 with my very first character and therefore have limited time with this online. I am a former player of Skyrim and therefore know about the game in some way. I am playing on Xbox EU for anyone asking.

Even though I have very limited time with the game, I have been a part of a few major guilds with 400+ members, and to say the least my experiences have been... Non enjoying.I know the game is rather new to consoles and there is no stable market yet, but people just seems unreasonable pricing their useless stuff in the guild stores. I have been checking everyday for a week now, and I only rarely find anything good a reasonable price to buy. It should be said that I am mainly using the Guild Stores for blacksmithing stuff which I am level 41 now.

My struggle

As I am playing on a console I do not have access to add-ons or any software that can help me scan through prices on a various of guild stores or generate average prices, and therefore it is annoying that I can only access 5 guilds. 5 Guilds just don't cut it with the stupidity that lives among these guilds. I understand that players would want to make a penny but for everyone who is experiencing the same as me, this must come to an end.

I have no idea how this guild store system works on PC but consoles do not have add-ons or any chat system to help us selling stuff in social places, and therefore we are in need of something smarter.

My suggestion

I would suggest a Global Trade Center located in each of the capitals of the alliances. Here it would be possible to buy and sell items across all alliances at a slightly larger fee than if you were to use the Guild Store. The Global Trade Centers should be assigned to each server as well as player system. So for me I would only have access to the Xbox One EU Global Trade Center, this should be to make it equal for everyone within the same system.

The Guild Stores should still be in the game and would now function as "inside trading" like if you would be sure to help your clan mates out or just wanted to keep your buying/selling habits local.

This system would prevent people at ruining the stores with items listed at 350k or ridiculous prices. Let the market be controlled by real demand and supply. Nothing really to be lost here. Its a supplement to what is already there and would just work as a Global Guild Store to be fair, so I don't see much development going into this system.

Let me hear your thoughts, especially for you PC gamers as you might have a different perspective than me. Also let me hear from every console gamers if this is something you would like or not.

Good evening
- Lj

QuebraRegra

is it AUCTION HOUSE time yet?

This guildstore thang aint cutting it. ESO grow up and be a real MMO.

Callous2208

QuebraRegra wrote: »

is it AUCTION HOUSE time yet?

This guildstore thang aint cutting it. ESO grow up and be a real MMO.

You say real mmo, I say another copy/paste crap fast I discard after a week or so. Auction Houses, IMO, are a cancer to any mmo economy. You'll never make a cent selling your junk with the 500k other people selling the same thing darn near less than you can sell it to an npc merchant for. More convenient for finding that one, off the wall item, yes. I'll concede it's better at that. But check the AH on a dozen or so mmo's. You'll find 2 or three character names control all of the high end items as well as the mass quantities of resources. Sadly, some of the time, these players are actually bots. The rest is a mess of listings from poor saps who are using the AH as more of a junk storage than avenue for profit.

QuebraRegra

Callous2208 wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

is it AUCTION HOUSE time yet?

This guildstore thang aint cutting it. ESO grow up and be a real MMO.

You say real mmo, I say another copy/paste crap fast I discard after a week or so. Auction Houses, IMO, are a cancer to any mmo economy. You'll never make a cent selling your junk with the 500k other people selling the same thing darn near less than you can sell it to an npc merchant for. More convenient for finding that one, off the wall item, yes. I'll concede it's better at that. But check the AH on a dozen or so mmo's. You'll find 2 or three character names control all of the high end items as well as the mass quantities of resources. Sadly, some of the time, these players are actually bots. The rest is a mess of listings from poor saps who are using the AH as more of a junk storage than avenue for profit.

So you agree, we need a proper auction house yes?

Seriously, I just want the ease of finding a particular item or two. I've always seemed to make money on the few items I've sold via other games auction houses.

Donum-Dei

The actual market in the game is life and intuitive.

plus the spammers that spam their guilds over and over again lol....

Cherryblossom

Rammi wrote: »

not this old chestnut again!!

The current system is great, enough said. All the people whinging about having to travel to find things need to get on with it and if they don't like it go play the game and find the item as a drop and not through buying of other players!!

Simple!

Sad fact is, to actually grind mobs for a specific item, by the time you get the item, you're over levelled, simple fact is many of the lower level sets are pointless as no one will ever have a full set...

The simple fact that ZOS had to add Guild Traders proves your statement that it's great, to being wrong.
Guild traders were a good start but they still at least exclude 90% of the community from selling, if you do not think this is wrong, that's up to you, but I happen to believe that all aspects of the game should be accessible to all players.

Cherryblossom

Fhaerron wrote: »

You can join 4 'AH' guilds and then 1 regular guild to play with.

There is a finite number of Guild Traders, so you can't, as each guild can only have 500 players....

Zolron

QuebraRegra wrote: »

is it AUCTION HOUSE time yet?


Seriously, I just want the ease of finding a particular item or two. I've always seemed to make money on the few items I've sold via other games auction houses.

^^^^This
Ive also never had a problem making money with other games Auction Houses.
Enough already ZOS , add an AH already ffs ! Im tired of playing "search 10 traders and 5 minute loading screens online"

RatedChaotic

Callous2208 wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

is it AUCTION HOUSE time yet?

This guildstore thang aint cutting it. ESO grow up and be a real MMO.

You say real mmo, I say another copy/paste crap fast I discard after a week or so. Auction Houses, IMO, are a cancer to any mmo economy. You'll never make a cent selling your junk with the 500k other people selling the same thing darn near less than you can sell it to an npc merchant for. More convenient for finding that one, off the wall item, yes. I'll concede it's better at that. But check the AH on a dozen or so mmo's. You'll find 2 or three character names control all of the high end items as well as the mass quantities of resources. Sadly, some of the time, these players are actually bots. The rest is a mess of listings from poor saps who are using the AH as more of a junk storage than avenue for profit.

So your saying in other mmos you played that have an auction house you never made any money? Maybe get an accounting or business degree. Might help ya.

Ive played WoW, Warhammer online, Rift, Guild Wars2, ect ect. I never had any problem making money from those games and they all have what you mentioned.

AinGeal

The problem is the lack of intel. With a central trading system in the game that everyone uses, you know that any item you put up for sale is accessible to everyone with very little effort on the customers part. This is just good business. You also know, as a customer, when you go to buy an item, you know that you are getting a fair deal. Every seller's prices are listed in front of you.

When I go to a Trade Guild's NPC there is nothing in game that tells me how many people are in the guild. As a customer I want to deal with the largest of them simply because I know that I'm more likely to find what I'm looking for and it's more likely to be at a price that's fair. Of course guild member cap is far too low for a proper trader guild to exist.

I decided once that I would buy from these stores. Spending 10 minutes going from one shop to the next simply to find what I'm looking for (never mind finding a fair price) is not my idea of a fun time playing the game. The current system detracts from the game's enjoyment for the majority of players (those who want to just run dungeons, get loot, and unload said loot) to benefit the enjoyment of a minority of players (those who simply want to play the market).

Although I'd say it makes things less convenient for those players too. It's easier to sit at a single NPC searching the Trading House, buying and selling, and having the items and gold go directly into your inventory than it is to have to run around from NPC to NPC, from town to town buying and selling and having to wait for the stupid delivery system to deliver the item to you via mail.

There is a very good reason this particular system is not typically used. Other game developers have already concluded long ago that it is an inferior system.

mrdankles

We need an auction house!!!

delphwind_ESO

To everyone saying how there will never be an Auction House ... just wait until Housing is release. If you want a sneak peak take a look at the DAoC housing and how they integrated guild and personal stores into what we would now consider an AH.

I will be shocked if it does not happen.

Targir

I regret I that bought this game. I want to dispute my credit card charge for the Imperial Edition that I bought.
NO AUCTION HOUSE. It's the year 2015 and every freaking MMO has one. I have to run around and waited days to buy the thing that I want. ESO Obviously is forcing me to go back to WoW.
The most breaking Immersion is the NPC Heavy Helmets. You can't see their eyes. Some of the cool crafted helmet has no eyes either. I am forced to use a less cool helmet but has eyes. I hate to run into NPCs that are wearing no eyes heavy helmets.

Shardaxx

Trying to find specific items is TERRIBLE with the current system.

ItsGlaive

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

The Imperial trading company has been in ES games before, why not have them actually buy and sell items. Not an auction house but more of a large consignment store.

I actually wasn't aware of that when I named our trading guild, it ended up being a happy lore-friendly circumstance

OrphanHelgen

I vote "YES" to auction house