[Video] Introduction to PvP in ESO

pppontus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdMvMDYLd8A

Enjoy.

#FIXCYRODIIL

DoctorSwampy

11/10 I cri everityme
A+ documentary of Cyrodiilic Combat tactics, I look forward to seeing this with a Morgan Freeman voice over.

Poxheart

This needs more exposure. It's a sad thing that large scale combat performance has actually gotten worse as time has gone on.

WebBull

Poxheart wrote: »

This needs more exposure. It's a sad thing that large scale combat performance has actually gotten worse as time has gone on.

It doesnt even have to be large scale combat anymore. You can lag out on 20v20 now.

At least in the OP's video combat is being attempted. Last night on Thorn U.S., EP just stacks 30+ on the flag and spams away until everyone lags out and the keep flips. Nothing new.

Siege MUST be made meaningful. Lag MUST be fixed. If ZOS would just wise up and remove all spell effects PvP would likely be playable. Half the time there are so many spell effects going off that you can't even see what is going on around you.

bellanca6561n

Not quite sure what to make of that, old boy. It's combat reduced to a chaotic nightmare. The three banner moment was quite decorative

But I do love Marvin Gaye, even in a dance mix

pppontus

WebBull wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

This needs more exposure. It's a sad thing that large scale combat performance has actually gotten worse as time has gone on.

It doesnt even have to be large scale combat anymore. You can lag out on 20v20 now.

At least in the OP's video combat is being attempted. Last night on Thorn U.S., EP just stacks 30+ on the flag and spams away until everyone lags out and the keep flips. Nothing new.

Siege MUST be made meaningful. Lag MUST be fixed. If ZOS would just wise up and remove all spell effects PvP would likely be playable. Half the time there are so many spell effects going off that you can't even see what is going on around you.

There was a large amount of EP on the flags as well at this time and they did flip the outpost. We just know already there is no point to fight them there because it lags even worse than it does here. So I just yolo:ed it upstairs hoping I'd just die so it would be over.

It's absolutely *** to the point where now on the evenings the entire North East side of the map is just a god damn lagfest. You don't even have to be in the battles to feel it anymore.

The only fights to be had are in the South as both AD and us never seem to feel the need to group 100 players in the same location.

It's ridiculous that it lags, but honestly, it's even more ridiculous that these lag groups exist. I just cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can enjoy that gameplay? I mean these groups gotta lag whereever they go (I'm guessing?) so how can they even stand being in Cyrodiil?

DoctorSwampy

WebBull wrote: »

It doesnt even have to be large scale combat anymore. You can lag out on 20v20 now.

^
The guilds I run with have this problem. We run in small groups usually and we STILL have continuous crashes every damn day, mostly on our leader's end which is very, very negative.
It really seems impossible for lag to become this bad on servers even with the highest population possible. Unless ZOS likes using the server room to fry eggs and bacon in the morning with the heat from how spammed it is with the masses of clients at one sole spot on the campaign. I've just never seen lag like this in absolutely any game I've never played that was on the game's end.
OP, your video is the epitome of PvP right now. I really hope ZOS sees this.

andy_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohOUU_fI14E

start from 3:00

Taonnor

Yes. ESO PvP is still unstable.

But its too much fun!

See back to DAoC to their hundrets of zone crashes and FPS Lags (Turn cloaks off!! ). So with a picture of that problems from DAoC in the past. The actual problems of ESO are hurting, but i think its playable.

I hope they will further investigate in that lag problems and can fix it. DAoC needed many years to fix that problems (f.e. a complete change of engine).

WebBull

Taonnor wrote: »

Yes. ESO PvP is still unstable.

But its too much fun!

See back to DAoC to their hundrets of zone crashes and FPS Lags (Turn cloaks off!! ). So with a picture of that problems from DAoC in the past. The actual problems of ESO are hurting, but i think its playable.

I hope they will further investigate in that lag problems and can fix it. DAoC needed many years to fix that problems (f.e. a complete change of engine).

- It's not just "still" unstable, it is getting worse every patch.
- It was fun but now it is so bad I just log out after an hour or so because of crashes
- DAoC progressively got better, this game is progressively getting worse.
- DAoC was 10-12 years ago, you would have thought there would be some advancement in technology/programing
- Zos's most recent solution to the fix is to "not bunch up" and "spread out". Not joking, that is what they said.

Unfortunately it seems like ZOS has completely given up on AvA/Cyrodiil.

pppontus

Well, at least they have been making statements lately.. which is more than they've done for the past 8 months.

Workerdroid7

Watching this video reminds me of why I've started to avoid any Keep taking or defending as much as possible. Once a certain threshold of player numbers is involved I find it completely impossible to actually use any tactics or playing skill... maybe I'm too old for the fast paced nature of it all, but that kind of thing is just not fun for me.

I'd rather do smaller scale combat outside the keeps, while the "zergs" fight it out without me. Less chaos, less lag... and easier for my old eyes and reflexes to make sense of what is going on.

A side note: I actually do enjoy keep attacks and defence tremendously, but NOT with so many players that it turns into complete sensory overload instead of fun gaming.

pppontus

Well, this is not so much about tactics or .. well, anything at all for that matter. Since no one is taking damage from anything that's happening and the server clearly doesn't know wtf is going on.. it's pretty hard to even pretend you have a tactic. So I pretend to be a dragon instead.

Merlin13KAGL

WebBull wrote: »

Siege MUST be made meaningful. Lag MUST be fixed. If ZOS would just wise up and remove all spell effects PvP would likely be playable. Half the time there are so many spell effects going off that you can't even see what is going on around you.

Agreed. It should be more than a big red circle you should try to get out of the way from.

Siege fire should be something you almost have to get out the way from - it should be a main method to disperse unshielded groups.

Siege fire should cause knockback (unavoidable), stun, long lingering DoT AoE... It's siege!

I would not be opposed to slight variations in trajectory, either. These are not the most accurate devises ever created, it should get you in the general vicinity...

(Bounce/Ricochet would be a nice touch, too, but the servers are choking enough already as it is)

Yolokin_Swagonborn

You just keep on struttin with those wings out and groovin to the lag beat.




#SoMuchSwag

Streega

@Yolokin_Swagonborn, is that is what you inviting me for? Sorry, all the guars in Tamriel won't drag me there

Btw, I love the chick in battle wedding dress

Yolokin_Swagonborn

@Streega
Don't you wish you had this much swag?

My point is the this won't get fixed unless more people join. And there are some fun small scale groups you can get into that don't involve mass siege.

Streega

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Streega
Don't you wish you had this much swag?

OMG, when I saw this guy... I laughed my *base* off Wow, much swag, such awesomness! Well, I may reconsider But... why he has wings in his... bottom? Is it a new swag for dragons?... Like tilted helmet or sth?

And for realz, I'm training my horsie to be ready for Cyro, so better fix that lag, ZOS! Yep, and a couple lvls more for myself would be nice as well...

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Streega wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

@Streega
Don't you wish you had this much swag?

OMG, when I saw this guy... I laughed my *base* off Wow, much swag, such awesomness! Well, I may reconsider But... why he has wings in his... bottom? Is it a new swag for dragons?... Like tilted helmet or sth?

And for realz, I'm training my horsie to be ready for Cyro, so better fix that lag, ZOS! Yep, and a couple lvls more for myself would be nice as well...

Yes dragonknights sprout wings from their butts. We have always said Reflective Scales was a BS skill. Now we have video proof.