From a Lore Standpoint, how tall are Wood Elves (Bosmer)

Vaerth

Archer79 wrote: »

Can you confirm that a male Bosmer is the same heights as a Male Dunmer with sliders all full height?[/quote]

I am sorry if my last post have missled you, what I meant was since they keep changing character heights with every new game, that I personally believe that all known races are of the same average height, of course I'm not saying that they look alike, nor do they have the same physiques, what I'm saying is that there average heights are roughly the same, except for the Altmer,Nords, and Orcs, as I have mentioned earlier. Now my male Bosmer is at max height and he is as tall as the shortest Dunmer, and little shorter than the average Dunmer. The height chart image that was posted earlier, I believe by @Rosveen, is the most accurate chart I've seen so far. I have to mention though very few Dunmer players & NPCs' are at maxed height so you wouldn't notice much height difference while playing PVE content, just don't stand close to an Altmer.

@AngryNord, game-play charts, and mechanics are not lore, lore comes from in-book lore books, or published lore books like the Emperor Guide and the like, because game mechanics change with every new game, sure some racial traits appear repeatedly with some races, but that might change as well, Altmer used to have weakness to flame,frost, and shock, and resistance to paralysis in previous games but not in skyrim, and of course not in ESO, Bosmer used to be great healers in The Elder Scrolls-Shadowkey, but returned to be thieves and assassins in later games. So you cant base game mechanics and racials as lore, because they do change in every new TES game that comes out.

Edit: sorry the image was posted by @Rosveen, not @Panda244, sorry again for the mixup. [/quote]

Well good point put out here.

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Elder_III

Traditionally, in single player games (esp. prior to Skyrim) Male Bosmer were 5'2" tall and the shortest of all the races/genders.

In ESO you can adjust your height, so just make a taller Bosmer and your problem is solved.

UrQuan

OK, as promised I got a chance to hop on the PTS last night and do some comparison screenshots.

All of these are with the height slider set to max, and all use an Imperial (also with the height slider set to max) as the comparison (although there are 3 different Imperials, as I had to create 1 in each faction - but all are set to max height).

DC races first:


Breton (on the right)


Orc (on the right)


Redguard (on the right)

AD races next:


Altmer (on the left)


Bosmer (on the left)


Khajiit (on the left)

EP races next:


Argonian (on the left)


Dunmer (on the left)


Nord (on the left)

I was originally going to do the same with female examples, but frankly I got really sick of creating these guys and lining them up for screenshots. I'll also probably run into the character deletion limit if I try. I might still do this at some point, but don't hold your breath.

Merlin13KAGL

Tall enough to stay on the front page of the forums for better than 3 days now

The problem with this, during character creation is that there is nothing to reference your proportions to.

They need to throw some background environmental items, heck, even average NPC's for a reference point.

It's why my ol' girl towers the way she does.

Archer79

@UrQuan Thank you for the screenshots they are very helpful. Looking at those screens it seems that they made them after the Morrowind model and not the one from oblivion, still Skyrim had the best Bosmer Model in both height and appearance.

I don't know I just hope that they will get an overhaul to their appearance and height, I mean since the mounts will shrink in size and the heavy armor helms will increase in size, its best if they made them of average height,and whoever wants to have a short Bosmer can do that, but for those players that want to have a cool average height wood elf assassin, they can have that too.

Vaerth

Vaerth wrote: »

Archer79 wrote: »

Can you confirm that a male Bosmer is the same heights as a Male Dunmer with sliders all full height?

I am sorry if my last post have missled you, what I meant was since they keep changing character heights with every new game, that I personally believe that all known races are of the same average height, of course I'm not saying that they look alike, nor do they have the same physiques, what I'm saying is that there average heights are roughly the same, except for the Altmer,Nords, and Orcs, as I have mentioned earlier. Now my male Bosmer is at max height and he is as tall as the shortest Dunmer, and little shorter than the average Dunmer. The height chart image that was posted earlier, I believe by @Rosveen, is the most accurate chart I've seen so far. I have to mention though very few Dunmer players & NPCs' are at maxed height so you wouldn't notice much height difference while playing PVE content, just don't stand close to an Altmer.

@AngryNord, game-play charts, and mechanics are not lore, lore comes from in-book lore books, or published lore books like the Emperor Guide and the like, because game mechanics change with every new game, sure some racial traits appear repeatedly with some races, but that might change as well, Altmer used to have weakness to flame,frost, and shock, and resistance to paralysis in previous games but not in skyrim, and of course not in ESO, Bosmer used to be great healers in The Elder Scrolls-Shadowkey, but returned to be thieves and assassins in later games. So you cant base game mechanics and racials as lore, because they do change in every new TES game that comes out.

Edit: sorry the image was posted by @Rosveen, not @Panda244, sorry again for the mixup. [/quote]

Well good point put out here.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting][/quote]

WHAT about this post was bad and needed "moderation"?

Archer79 wrote: »

@UrQuan Thank you for the screenshots they are very helpful. Looking at those screens it seems that they made them after the Morrowind model and not the one from oblivion, still Skyrim had the best Bosmer Model in both height and appearance.

I don't know I just hope that they will get an overhaul to their appearance and height, I mean since the mounts will shrink in size and the heavy armor helms will increase in size, its best if they made them of average height,and whoever wants to have a short Bosmer can do that, but for those players that want to have a cool average height wood elf assassin, they can have that too.

Agreed

Vaerth

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Tall enough to stay on the front page of the forums for better than 3 days now

The problem with this, during character creation is that there is nothing to reference your proportions to.

They need to throw some background environmental items, heck, even average NPC's for a reference point.

It's why my ol' girl towers the way she does.

Indeed, gotta love starting a thread that does not die off in an hour, lol

newtinmpls

Archer79 wrote: »

@UrQuan Thank you for the screenshots they are very helpful. Looking at those screens it seems that they made them after the Morrowind model .

Nooo.... I recall dunmer being quite tall in Morrowind