Awesome change for Sorcs!

ItsRejectz

Just noticed an awesome sorcerer buffed that wasn't on PTS. Finally a self health massive potential!

Unstable Familiar
This ability now heals the caster for 35% of their maximum health when the familiar is killed or toggled off.

Exstazik

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Just noticed an awesome sorcerer buffed that wasn't on PTS. Finally a self health massive potential!

Unstable Familiar
This ability now heals the caster for 35% of their maximum health when the familiar is killed or toggled off.

This ability now has a cast time of 1.3 seconds.
Don't get me wrong.....but sorc now without selfheal in PvP

dharbert

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Just noticed an awesome sorcerer buffed that wasn't on PTS. Finally a self health massive potential!

Unstable Familiar
This ability now heals the caster for 35% of their maximum health when the familiar is killed or toggled off.

But it's not instant, which is the source of many sorc whines.

ItsRejectz

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

Exstazik

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

first they said:"Pet now is ok".
Now what they do:"Nerf it to 1.5."

Derra

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

Well tbh i don´t see anyone pulling this off in emergency situations more than one time. You will never finish a hardcast against a capable opponent who´s trying to kill you.

Robbmrp

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, thanks for your patience. We do have a status to share regarding Sorcerers as they currently stand.

First, there is one outstanding issue with Crystal Fragments not proccing when you cast Bolt Escape; we are aiming to fix this by time Update 6 is live. While we aren’t planning to implement any additional changes before Update 6 goes live, we will be keeping a very close eye on how Sorcerers – and all classes – perform in a Live environment, and will make tweaks as necessary. With Update 6 just around the corner, we don’t want to make any drastic changes that could affect gameplay in a negative way.

That said, we do have plans to make the Sorcerer more effective as a stamina DPS, tank, and healer. The first change we already made towards that direction is allowing the Clannfear to heal the caster based on their maximum health when the Clannfear is killed or dismissed. In a future update, we will be looking at giving the Sorcerer unique ways to fulfill the healer role, or deal damage with stamina-based abilities. Some specific issues we will also be evaluating are the number of toggled abilities on the class, Surge healing cooldown, and tweaks to make Dark Exchange more useful.

Please continue to report any issues you may come across, and thank you for all your support and feedback!

It was added for the Clan Fear as well.

AshySamurai

1.6 Dks Passing a torch to Sorcs...

Deheart

Personally I noticed that the old Sorc was basicly easy mode compared to every other class for me. Unless I didn't have pets then it was harder than any other class.

All the technical stuff usually goes over my head until I actually play the class or use the weapon and can actually associate the spects with actual game play. And I didn't really want to play to long on pts since its a test server and all chars are wiped every once in a while. So I really haven't tested the new sorc class yet (spent my time playing around with nightblades and stealing), but from what I do understand I can use sorc without pets alot easier now.

Looking forward to having the two extra spaces on my spell bar and using more storm calling and dark magic spells.

Exstazik

Robbmrp wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, thanks for your patience. We do have a status to share regarding Sorcerers as they currently stand.

First, there is one outstanding issue with Crystal Fragments not proccing when you cast Bolt Escape; we are aiming to fix this by time Update 6 is live. While we aren’t planning to implement any additional changes before Update 6 goes live, we will be keeping a very close eye on how Sorcerers – and all classes – perform in a Live environment, and will make tweaks as necessary. With Update 6 just around the corner, we don’t want to make any drastic changes that could affect gameplay in a negative way.

That said, we do have plans to make the Sorcerer more effective as a stamina DPS, tank, and healer. The first change we already made towards that direction is allowing the Clannfear to heal the caster based on their maximum health when the Clannfear is killed or dismissed. In a future update, we will be looking at giving the Sorcerer unique ways to fulfill the healer role, or deal damage with stamina-based abilities. Some specific issues we will also be evaluating are the number of toggled abilities on the class, Surge healing cooldown, and tweaks to make Dark Exchange more useful.

Please continue to report any issues you may come across, and thank you for all your support and feedback!

we don’t want to make any drastic changes that could affect gameplay in a negative way.
It was added for the Clan Fear as well.

Unstable Familiar.•This ability now has a cast time of 1.3 seconds.
This ability now has a cast time of 1.3 seconds.
Another lie

Snit

This has a 1.3 second cast time, and it then requires a second click to activate the heal. The second click requires a (slight) pause, as well. So, you're looking at a heal with a 1.5 to 1.6 second cast time.

This will not be used by any non-pet spec. It's now just a nice bonus for those who would use pets anyway. Nukers are back to using Resto Staff heals. That's fine with me -- I thought it was a wierd little heal, and I didn't like the flavor of it. Now that it's useless for me, I won't feel bad about ignoring it

ItsRejectz

Exstazik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

first they said:"Pet now is ok".
Now what they do:"Nerf it to 1.5."

Sorry but a 35% self heal is no nerf, even with the cast time. I can't belive other sorcerer users are already calling this a nerf, when not a single one has used it yet.

Derra

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

first they said:"Pet now is ok".
Now what they do:"Nerf it to 1.5."

Sorry but a 35% self heal is no nerf, even with the cast time. I can't belive other sorcerer users are already calling this a nerf, when not a single one has used it yet.

And it will continue its existance in sorc solo leveling builds and nowhere else to be seen.

But have fun trying to use it a couple of times in pvp - you are not ad/ep by any chance?

Erock25

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

first they said:"Pet now is ok".
Now what they do:"Nerf it to 1.5."

Sorry but a 35% self heal is no nerf, even with the cast time. I can't belive other sorcerer users are already calling this a nerf, when not a single one has used it yet.

It was instant cast on PTS and a whole bunch of DKs started whining about it and it got nerfed. That is where the outrage is. If you want to sit there and cast and unsummon a very high magicka costing skill with a 1.3 second cast time, be my guest, but there is really no point and the skill is now useless.

Taonnor

Erock25 wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

first they said:"Pet now is ok".
Now what they do:"Nerf it to 1.5."

Sorry but a 35% self heal is no nerf, even with the cast time. I can't belive other sorcerer users are already calling this a nerf, when not a single one has used it yet.

It was instant cast on PTS and a whole bunch of DKs started whining about it and it got nerfed. That is where the outrage is. If you want to sit there and cast and unsummon a very high magicka costing skill with a 1.3 second cast time, be my guest, but there is really no point and the skill is now useless.

So lets whine loud for DK nervs

Snit

Taonnor wrote: »

So lets whine loud for DK nervs

DK's are the Dovakiihn. Sorcs are playing the NPC's wandering around Riverwood

olsborg

Sure they made clannfear heal you, but adding a whopping 1.3 cast time basicly makes it useless in pvp, anything with a cast time you can just forget about using against a capable oponenent. *sigh* the sorc nerfs are neverending, so glad im leveling another class atm.

Give GDB or Healing ward a cast time of 1.3 seconds, lets see what happens.

Im getting rather sick of this tbh....

madangrypally

The cast time has made it worthless in PvP where Sorcs needed the heal the most.

Craven_Killmore

give tanks a cast time on their self heals, great idea, so no one can do dungeons? they gave sorcs a cast time cuz guess what, they use staffs, and are casters in cloth.

They should feel lucky they even have a heal.

Derra

Craven_Killmore wrote: »

give tanks a cast time on their self heals, great idea, so no one can do dungeons? they gave sorcs a cast time cuz guess what, they use staffs, and are casters in cloth.

They should feel lucky they even have a heal.

And the thought that this would have been the selfheal tanksorcs are desperately in need of never occured to you?

Exstazik

olsborg wrote: »

Sure they made clannfear heal you, but adding a whopping 1.3 cast time basicly makes it useless in pvp, anything with a cast time you can just forget about using against a capable oponenent. *sigh* the sorc nerfs are neverending, so glad im leveling another class atm.

Give GDB or Healing ward a cast time of 1.3 seconds, lets see what happens.

Im getting rather sick of this tbh....

GDB 1.3 cast time+petrify 1.2 cast time+Refleting scale :while reflect holds:dk's regen go to 0

Vis

ItsRejectz wrote: »

I can still see massive potential in this, I can also get rid of my restoration staff. Going to start theorycrafting now

Enjoy getting that off in pvp. I will mourn your death ... not really.

Vis

olsborg wrote: »

Sure they made clannfear heal you, but adding a whopping 1.3 cast time basicly makes it useless in pvp, anything with a cast time you can just forget about using against a capable oponenent. *sigh* the sorc nerfs are neverending, so glad im leveling another class atm.

Give GDB or Healing ward a cast time of 1.3 seconds, lets see what happens.

Im getting rather sick of this tbh....

Don't forget the change to Rebate:

Rebate: Fixed an issue where this ability was not restoring magicka when a Daedric pet was de-summoned or died, and the magicka restore from this passive now scales with your level instead of your maximum magicka.

Not only does it have a long cast time, low heal (considering your low HP), but will also cost an arm and a leg.

ZOS_ShannonM

Hello folks,
We see that there is a lot of feedback on sorcerers so we are closing this thread so that we can consolidate all the feedback in one place. Please visit this thread for any feedback on sorcerers. This will allow the feedback to reach the devs in a single place. As always we appreciate all feedback, good and bad, but ask that you keep your posts civil, constructive, and on topic.
Thank you for understanding.