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Crystal Fragments Proc needs to do by pass blocking and be un-reflectable and cant be dodged.

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sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
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This must be done.
  • bosmern_ESO
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    Only if Radiant destruction can't be blocked, and if someone tries to place a shield on themselves its negated.

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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    As a sorc...no...just no...

    Dodging is not free, nor is blocking...its not feasible to expect someone to just stand their and take a frag in the face with no defense.

    No just make gap closers just as easy to dodge and ill be happy :)
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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  • sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
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    woodsro wrote: »
    As a sorc...no...just no...

    Dodging is not free, nor is blocking...its not feasible to expect someone to just stand their and take a frag in the face with no defense.

    No just make gap closers just as easy to dodge and ill be happy :)

    no. because i have had people block my Crystal fragments and never stop blocking. People dodge them constantly.
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  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    What is this...I don't even...

    I'm all for reasonable sorc buffs but the OP wants an "I win" button.

    Nope, no thanks. I like a challenge when PvPing.
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  • Exstazik
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    said as sorc "no".But proc dmg should be increased (because instant cast not instant)
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  • Soulac
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    sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
    This must be done.

    Please.. Stahp...
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  • sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
    This must be done.

    Please.. Stahp...
    nevAr

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  • LtCrunch
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    No.
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  • sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
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    Brandalf wrote: »
    No.

    your level 30 sorc says yes.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
    Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on February 25, 2015 1:02PM
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  • AssaultLemming
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    As a sorc I vote no. What would be great is buff the standard attack on mages wrath to be a viable direct damage spell that can proc frags and can't be reflected.
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  • Emma_Overload
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    What the OP is asking for would just make everyone else ask for MORE nerfs against Sorcerers.... no thanks!

    I agree with @AssaultLemming, what we really need is a beefier Mages Wrath. Maybe there should be a morph that costs more magicka but gives you the "execution" blast every time.
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  • kkampaseb17_ESO
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    I thought this was a serious forum where we are supposed to give actually good advice/opinion to devs. Tststs.

    And yes...I am a sorc.
    Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
    What the OP is asking for would just make everyone else ask for MORE nerfs against Sorcerers.... no thanks!

    I agree with @AssaultLemming, what we really need is a beefier Mages Wrath. Maybe there should be a morph that costs more magicka but gives you the "execution" blast every time.

    Wait...so let me get this straight. You want a skill that could actually take 1/3 to 1/2 of a player's health without the ability of the player to reflect neutralize or dodge (since the blast occurs even if you dodge)? How is that different than what the OP asked?
    Edited by kkampaseb17_ESO on February 25, 2015 5:33AM
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  • LtCrunch
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    sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
    Brandalf wrote: »
    No.

    your level 30 sorc says yes.

    Cute.

    [Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
    Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on February 25, 2015 1:03PM
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  • Teargrants
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    They should also make shards a toggle so I can add it to my Togglemancer build.
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  • Vis
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    Unblockable and un-dodgeable? A bit too far. Un-reflectable? YES!
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  • Panda244
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    Vis wrote: »
    Unblockable and un-dodgeable? A bit too far. Un-reflectable? YES!

    Reflect = Reflects ALL Projectiles
    Crystal Shards = Projectile

    Make it a non-projectile and sure... Not many Sorcs use it on me anyways, and it does pitiful damage if you're blocking :confused: Just buff Mage's Wrath, problem solved.
    Edited by Panda244 on February 25, 2015 7:17AM
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Damn, they removed the lol button? So please pretend the counter just went up by 1.
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  • Soulac
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    I think it should be an AoE too.
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  • pppontus
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    Please don't make it unreflectable. I love double-reflecting it off Scales.
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  • xaraan
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    No. That's just crazy. Shards is great as is.
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  • Simzani
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    This spell should be removed, same as bolt escape. They don't have a place in a MMO.
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  • Armitas
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    I feel like this is extraordinarily unnecessary.
    Retired.
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  • Panda244
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I feel like this is extraordinarily unnecessary.
    @Armitas At this point, with how bad Sorcs are... I'd honestly be inclined to agree with OP :confused:
    But I won't, cause they can just use Overload... OH WAIT!
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    Edited by Panda244 on February 25, 2015 9:57AM
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  • ArconSeptim
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    Ooooooooooh please again sorcerer whiner on forums, *whistle* *whistle* call the security....
    Sorcerers, why are you freaking using your bolt escape non stop? It's pretty laame :)
    Edited by ArconSeptim on February 25, 2015 9:58AM
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  • ToRelax
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    No.

    With 70 CP, with some luck and buffs I can crit 16k with Shards, that would basically mean Magicka Detonation + Curse + Shards = I win.
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    don´t think thats a viable way to help us sorcs in pvp.
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  • Digiman
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    sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
    This must be done.

    Though I am all for making sorcerers more balanced in gameplay, this really solves nothing. Quite frankly the proccing rate seems to be okay and its designed to give that sorta random stun out of left field if people are focused enough on it.

    Someone actually dodges or reflects it back has great reflexes. You just have to learn when to use that proc it combination with other abilities to create a synergy in which the victim can't walk away alive.
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  • Orchish
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    No it doesn't.
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  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Asking for an IWIN button to use against another IWIN button isn't the way to go.

    The DK IWIN needs to be nerfed, not CF buffed.
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    kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »
    I thought this was a serious forum where we are supposed to give actually good advice/opinion to devs. Tststs.

    And yes...I am a sorc.
    Emma_Eunjung wrote: »
    What the OP is asking for would just make everyone else ask for MORE nerfs against Sorcerers.... no thanks!

    I agree with @AssaultLemming, what we really need is a beefier Mages Wrath. Maybe there should be a morph that costs more magicka but gives you the "execution" blast every time.

    Wait...so let me get this straight. You want a skill that could actually take 1/3 to 1/2 of a player's health without the ability of the player to reflect neutralize or dodge (since the blast occurs even if you dodge)? How is that different than what the OP asked?

    LOL, Mages Wrath does not do as much damage as you seem to think. At any given level of spell damage + magicka, Wrath only does a little bit more damage than a Crystal Frag, it just does it without the excruciating cast time.
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