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Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?
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Iago✭✭✭✭✭
he may be mildly amusing for a while. although it doesn't take long before it starts to get old.That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Keepercraft✭✭✭Because Sheogorath is awesome?
Edited by Keepercraft on February 23, 2015 8:17AMStill waiting for Sithis.2 -
Iago✭✭✭✭✭Keepercraft wrote: »Because Sheogorath is awesome?
Sheogorath is kind of like ice cream, at first it's wonderful but the more you have the worst it tastes.That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Digiman✭✭✭✭✭Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?
Seriously Molag Ball is the main Villan surely he deserves better than a second rate part within the game.
He actually doesn't it really depends on the quests. In mages guild he is very active and in a quests as well. Do Dolmens and progress through the main story and really Molag Bal is more active.
The times he does show up is when he is absolutely ready to blow things up, while Sheogorath will just talk.1 -
dwtdwtdwt✭✭✭Abnur Tharn is currently the real villain. And he gets more "screen time" so far in the game story. More than Sheogorath even. Sure he saved the companions, but he's an evil dude. He has motives. Keep your friends close, they say. We certainly haven't seen the last of him. He'll most likely be seen in the Imp City DLC.
And I'm sure Molag Bal will come stomping back in a couple years after we tackle some other Princes and Sheo gives us a few more chain quests. We haven't seen the last of Molag yet either."Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato0 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭Abnur Tharn is currently the real villain. And he gets more "screen time" so far in the game story. More than Sheogorath even. Sure he saved the companions, but he's an evil dude. He has motives. Keep your friends close, they say. We certainly haven't seen the last of him. He'll most likely be seen in the Imp City DLC.
And I'm sure Molag Bal will come stomping back in a couple years after we tackle some other Princes and Sheo gives us a few more chain quests. We haven't seen the last of Molag yet either.
Really don't know what Abnur will be able to actually do even if he has the "Package". Honestly he isn't power hungry or ambitious to become emperor and from his actions and tone he would rather serve the right emperor over the wrong one.
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True ever since I first defeated Milagros Ball I have reffered to him as Milagros No Balls due to the ease in which I killed him.That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Seraphyel✭✭✭✭✭Your 4 different personalities approved my post and made a statement for themselves each by their own?
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Iago✭✭✭✭✭Your 4 different personalities approved my post and made a statement for themselves each by their own?
at any given time I could have 1 to 60 different personalities it just depends on what I'm working on at the time.
seriously though the main villain of the game should have more screen time then the lesser villains.That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.
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Molag Bal is in sort of a unique position narrative wise. To retain credibility as a global threat, he has to act somewhat objectively. Having him show up too many times would kill most feeling of mystery or grandiosity. As a result, villains like Mannimarco, Angof, Javad, etc. are relied upon to have more personal interactions with the player, and drive the story.
This isn't all that uncommon. Compare the amount of screen time that Darth Sidious received compared to Vader. In Oblivion, Mehrunes Dagon didn't have a single spoken line. Mankar Camoran had to sort of personify the threat Dagon posed.
Since Sheogorath's primary goal in the Mages guild story was so different (mainly tormenting Shalidor), the stakes for the player were very different. The MG quest line was more 'react to Sheogorath trying to bug Shalidor' rather than 'save the world from certain doom.'
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Valmond✭✭✭Uncle Sheggy is funny, Molag Bal is not.
Molag Bal needs to keep up appearance as a credible global threat, Uncle Sheggy does not.
Anyway, i have zero interest in Molag Bal, and this game did not change it.
However, every quest with ol' Sheggy in it has been totally awesome, and i would love to see more of him.
Also, more Mephala, there's a quest in Nilata Ruins (southern Bangkorai) that was awesome and left me wanting more of the webspinner.
Also, Clavicus Vile, Nocturnal, Vaermina, Boethiah and Hermaeus Mora need more screentime.0 -
ElleShaped✭✭✭Like this.
I mean there's always the Spider DaedraBut at least Spider Daedra is prettier than Harvester... I wouldn't mind getting myself caught in her web, wink wink, nudge nudge.
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✭Difference in personality? Molag Bal always struck me as the "stay in the back ground, plotting , using minions to carry out his plans" where Sheogorath always struck me as the type who relished adding his own personal touch of madness.
He may get less screen time, but he interacts with us a whole lot more through the anchors, though it's akin to fist shaking and cane waving while yelling "dagnabbit get off my anchor you hooligans".Though, at the end if the main story Bal doesn't seem very upset you stopped his planemeld, im sure the story is going to twist where he knew - and counted on - the vestige "winning".Edited by BBSooner on February 23, 2015 2:41PM0 -
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✭✭Molag Bal is good as a overall background villian that uses puppets to achieve his goals. After all he is the God of Schemes, so it's no surprise that we have to overcome layers of minons to finally get to him in the end. Sheogorath takes a more personal hand when he wishes to torment/have fun with someone. I don't think we'll much of Sheogorath in any future DLCs, he's kind of played out after the Mage guild quests. Hermaeus Mora seems to pop up now and again to provide information, (at a price). I would expect to see him again with key information to any future quests."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
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✭Sheogorath got it written in his SAG contract back with his starring role in Shivering Isles:
"In any succeeding roles, I, The Mad God of Artisans, Writers and Actors,, must have a major role in any productions involving my Daedric persona on Nirn. Violation of this clause will cause any writer who uses my name, or actor who pronounces my name, or any of my other incarnations, past, present, or future, to immediately turn into a chicken, be transported to the Shivering Isles and spend eternity as a target for knaves hunting my favor with Wabbajack. Oh, and I must be provided with cheese, cheesy lines, cheesy wardrobes, and mostly, a table full of cheese, daily."Power level to CP160 in a week:
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Folkb✭✭✭✭✭Sheo is the type of deadric prince that interacts with the general population in person more than Molag Bal does.0
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✭The problem that I tend to have with the over abundance of Sheogorath is the same problem I always have with people who roll up Malkavians, it's rarely the treat that someone thinks it will be.
I mostly put up with Sheogorath rather than enjoyed him, but I liked the overall story of finding the island and helping Shalidor, so it was a small price to pay.
Still, like I said in an earlier post, I'd love to see more of the Daedra in upcoming expansions.0 -
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✭Sheogorath got more screen time but Molag Bal got more lines I think. Look at every dark anchor, the orders sent to others, etc. Sheogorath got more screen time as a supporting character, but not really in voice =3.0 -
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✭✭Difference in personality? Molag Bal always struck me as the "stay in the back ground, plotting , using minions to carry out his plans" where Sheogorath always struck me as the type who relished adding his own personal touch of madness.
He may get less screen time, but he interacts with us a whole lot more through the anchors, though it's akin to fist shaking and cane waving while yelling "dagnabbit get off my anchor you hooligans".Though, at the end if the main story Bal doesn't seem very upset you stopped his planemeld, im sure the story is going to twist where he knew - and counted on - the vestige "winning".
The ways we interact with them does feel like it fits their aspects.Yea, I've always felt that he had a different endgame in mind if/when his planemeld was foiled. His modus operandi is ' to harvest the souls of mortals and to bring them within his sway by spreading seeds of strife and discord in the mortal realms.' Despite being the lord of domination, he usually plays a more subtle game. (Also, if you go to the 'r word' aspect-that-must-not-be-named, what he does to nirn can be seen that way.)
I believe his goal was to break Alessia's pact, and to weaken Chim-el Adabal as we end up doing. And to spread as much chaos as possible as he does so. Thus opening the door for more Daedric influence in Mundus.
Don't you think it was maybe a bit to easy to escape coldharbor in the first place? I mean, he is essentially the Lord of imprisonment, and yet we escape his prison during a jailbreak...Edited by Shunravi on February 23, 2015 4:46PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
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They can appear as whatever they want to be... Like this.WraithAzraiel wrote: »
Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.
I also look forward to meeting Bothia, Mehrunes Dagon, and Azura
Boethiah can eat my toes for all I care, Mehrunes isn't any fun... Molag Bal has the best voice actor of any villain ever. Uncle Sheo is Uncle ****ing Sheo, meeting with Mephala would be fun... Cause um..
"Mephala is the demon prince of murder, sex, and secrets."
Fun times with Mephala, if you know what I mean
In truth though, I want to see some more interaction with Hermaeus Mora, Sanguine, Nocturnal, and Mephala, and since there's suppose to be a new content zone called "Mephala's Realm" it appears that I will get my wish.
Isn't Mephala also the one that appears as a Spider Daedra?
Yea no, that's not attractive. It she were more like Lolth and less like Arachnaphobia, maybe.Like this.
Which happens to be eerily sexy.
And like this.Which happens to be just plain sexy. I'm sure @TheShadowScout will agree with me
I mean there's always the Spider DaedraBut at least Spider Daedra is prettier than Harvester... I wouldn't mind getting myself caught in her web, wink wink, nudge nudge.
Okay I'll stop now.
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Sheogorath is awesome! I'd take him over Molag anytime.
Sheogorath's quest was one of the top ones for me. He was entertaining as heck!0 -
Shlankwald✭✭✭Molag Bal is less personal that Sheogorath. Up until the end he considers you just a nuisance it seems who is not not worthy of his time. Most daedric princes are like this, actually, Sheogorath is about the only one who interacts with mortals regularly (and Sanguine) so its normal for him to be more....engaging in conversation.
On a side note, Sheogorath is was awesome in Shivering Isles, he seems more tame and predictable here....0
