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Rare Items Part Deux - Dolmen and Trial Gear

  • Osteos
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    IMO, one of the best looking weapons in the game.

    I found this staff as well. I love the way it looks. Its the one Abnur Tharn uses. I was hoping it was what the new Xivkyn staves would look like. Anyways mine is only a V5 but I still have it.
    Edited by Osteos on August 30, 2015 5:16PM
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    Czenia wrote: »
    I just got the Mace of Menta Na from a dolmen in bangkorai (AD).

    Is it worth anything? I mean, it's not part of a set or anything.

    can you screen or better post a link-code?

    I'll put a screenshot up, can't seem to find any worthwhile images/info to link.
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    @Czenia

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  • Personofsecrets
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    IMO, one of the best looking weapons in the game.

    I found this staff as well. I love the way it looks. Its the one Abnur Tharn uses. I was hoping it was what the new Xivkyn staves would look like. Anyways mine is only a V5 but I still have it.

    It was to be what they were to look like? Do you mean they wont look like that?
  • Osteos
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    This is from the crafted sets on the pts. I believe its in the Xivkyn style.
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  • Personofsecrets
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    This is from the crafted sets on the pts. I believe its in the Xivkyn style.

    thank you for sharing
  • Kyros
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    RollDodger wrote: »
    lich and draugr set vr14 confirmed on pts - cyro dolmens

    actually, it can be vr16 now! :)
  • Greg
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    i beat the ozzobacher thing at lv.29 the other day, now i have a lv29 ozzobachers claw will post picture when i have time
  • Personofsecrets
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    Greg wrote: »
    i beat the ozzobacher thing at lv.29 the other day, now i have a lv29 ozzobachers claw will post picture when i have time

    Awesome, I bet it looks sweet.
  • Personofsecrets
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    Kyros wrote: »
    RollDodger wrote: »
    lich and draugr set vr14 confirmed on pts - cyro dolmens

    actually, it can be vr16 now! :)

    Just completed the v16 titan set myself =)
  • Suru
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    Can comfirm syrabane shoulders are super rare...when I tried finding them last patch. Luckily friend had one me. I have the rings too, sadly it is a v12 set :(


    Suru
  • Personofsecrets
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    Suru wrote: »
    Can comfirm syrabane shoulders are super rare...when I tried finding them last patch. Luckily friend had one me. I have the rings too, sadly it is a v12 set :(

    Yup. No telling what will happen to items once vet ranks are removed though.
  • Kyros
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    wow! found vr12 GOLD syrabane shoulders in the store for 12k gold
  • Kyros
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    any1 please psot a code of Ring of Syrabane and Band of Syrabane?
    nvm
    found it
    |H0:item:43888:250:50:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:7:0:0:0:0:0|h|h - blue ring of syrabane vr12
    |H0:item:43889:251:50:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:7:0:0:0:0:0|h|h - purple band of syrabane vr12
    Edited by Kyros on October 15, 2015 2:18PM
  • Rioht
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    See items like the voidguide are why I don't understand ZoS's itemization.

    Why make cool items, that are rare to find... Only to have them be completely useless.

    I would LOVE to have some items that weren't a set, and offered potential benefits to players in exchange for giving up a set piece.

    Should I keep my full overwhelming set? Or go with a 4 piece set and use this cool rare helmet that offers a potential benefit to my gameplay.

    Give is a cool stat, like +2% chance to get double resources from a node. Or 10% chance to do double damage with siege equipment against a keep. Or SOMEtHING other than +a stat.
  • jhharvest
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    I've been collecting those dolmen items. I've got 2 spare Medrike's axes (v16) and a Soul-reaving bow which I'm pretty sure I'll never use.
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    Your chat channels have some really weird names
  • Kyros
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    well, 12 hours ago vr12 unassailable pants was sold in one of my guilds for 174 gold

    i wrote macroses to buy out such things, but in that moment they was stopped
    *** me :'(
    Edited by Kyros on November 17, 2015 5:48PM
  • Personofsecrets
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    Kyros wrote: »
    well, 12 hours ago vr12 unassailable pants was sold in one of my guilds for 174 gold

    i wrote macroses to buy out such things, but in that moment they was stopped
    *** me :'(

    Oh wow, unreal.
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  • Sharmony
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    After the last rare item thread I wanted to put together a new thread that has some pictures for you all to see. This should be a good resource for you collectors and help people know more about these sets. I'm 99% sure that I am correct in my explanations of the items and how to obtain them.

    aPcfIPf.jpg

    Purple rings I believe to be a final boss drop from AA (Warlock) and Hel-Ra (Syrabane), but you may also be able to get purple rings from the trash enemies in those trials. You can at least get the blue rings from trash enemies as well as some other items that have a low percent chance drop rate such as the Stygian Dagger from AA and the Claw of the Dragon from Hel-Ra.

    Purple Rings can only drop from trash, and more frequently only drop from elite trash as opposed to small mobs. Drop rates are around 0.1-1%, so ofc they are very rare - They cannot drop from bosses as these have set loot tables to drop 1 piece of trials gear and if you're lucky a boss drop related drop part of a set, e.g. a Stygian piece of armor. Moreover, just wanted to make clear that the sets such as Sun are only bound to Hel Ra, not AA and this goes for all the sets previously listed (but I can't remember each one specifically at the point of writing this post but you've pointed out some of the others).

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    These are some other items that I believe have the low percent chance drop rate. There may be more items than just these, but I am most confident that these shoulders are hard to get.

    They all have the same drop chance as the previous rare trash drops, the chances are all just incredibly low. :disappointed:

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    The First Titan set can be difficult to get as it only drops from dolmen chests that appear after the general Ozzozachar (Son of Molag Bal) has been defeated. The loot pool for a boss drop is actually 8 because there are the items "Ozzozachar's Claw" and "Ozzozachar's Tooth" that can drop.

    Having a full Lich set, and having farmed over 1300 dolmens upon IC's release I can just make this all a bit clearer. The Gauntlets of the First Titan can only drop from Ozzozachar. Zymel Hriz drops the Lightning Staff. Nomeg Haga the frost staff.
    Anaxes and Medrike, the slavemasters, drop the Two-Handed Hammer and Axe respectively. I can't remember the rest... I believe the boots are also from Ozzozacher and the chest from King Styriche of Verkarth (&companions), but I am not 100% sure on this.

    Me and my V16 Lich <3 (Below)
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    Finally I'd like to tell any devs that may be reading how quite a few people enjoy collecting items. Please be careful with how you handle the changes in item levels because many people have worked hard to get the top level of item for the sets that they use. Also, maybe use the dolmen generals in some future content. It was always exciting to have a general appear and they are cool enough enemies for you to make content with.

    I couldn't agree more, but seriously, the grind of these sets is ridiculously stupid. Having done the 1300 dolmens I only got 2 pieces of Lich and bought the rest, I had triplicates which I gave to my friends for helping me, I talk more about it in this post about how to farm dolmens and drop rates. Prestige that a set brings is all well and good, but the drop chance should be increased massively, at least to equivalent to that of boss helmets (10%) from veteran 4 player content.
    Edited by Sharmony on November 27, 2015 4:00PM
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  • Personofsecrets
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    Sharmony wrote: »
    After the last rare item thread I wanted to put together a new thread that has some pictures for you all to see. This should be a good resource for you collectors and help people know more about these sets. I'm 99% sure that I am correct in my explanations of the items and how to obtain them.

    aPcfIPf.jpg

    Purple rings I believe to be a final boss drop from AA (Warlock) and Hel-Ra (Syrabane), but you may also be able to get purple rings from the trash enemies in those trials. You can at least get the blue rings from trash enemies as well as some other items that have a low percent chance drop rate such as the Stygian Dagger from AA and the Claw of the Dragon from Hel-Ra.

    Purple Rings can only drop from trash, and more frequently only drop from elite trash as opposed to small mobs. Drop rates are around 0.1-1%, so ofc they are very rare - They cannot drop from bosses as these have set loot tables to drop 1 piece of trials gear and if you're lucky a boss drop related drop part of a set, e.g. a Stygian piece of armor. Moreover, just wanted to make clear that the sets such as Sun are only bound to Hel Ra, not AA and this goes for all the sets previously listed (but I can't remember each one specifically at the point of writing this post but you've pointed out some of the others).

    4PDyEGw.jpg

    These are some other items that I believe have the low percent chance drop rate. There may be more items than just these, but I am most confident that these shoulders are hard to get.

    They all have the same drop chance as the previous rare trash drops, the chances are all just incredibly low. :disappointed:

    VC1L1zt.jpg

    The First Titan set can be difficult to get as it only drops from dolmen chests that appear after the general Ozzozachar (Son of Molag Bal) has been defeated. The loot pool for a boss drop is actually 8 because there are the items "Ozzozachar's Claw" and "Ozzozachar's Tooth" that can drop.

    Having a full Lich set, and having farmed over 1300 dolmens upon IC's release I can just make this all a bit clearer. The Gauntlets of the First Titan can only drop from Ozzozachar. Zymel Hriz drops the Lightning Staff. Nomeg Haga the frost staff.
    Anaxes and Medrike, the slavemasters, drop the Two-Handed Hammer and Axe respectively. I can't remember the rest... I believe the boots are also from Ozzozacher and the chest from King Styriche of Verkarth (&companions), but I am not 100% sure on this.

    Me and my V16 Lich <3 (Below)
    yJGApOZ.jpg

    Finally I'd like to tell any devs that may be reading how quite a few people enjoy collecting items. Please be careful with how you handle the changes in item levels because many people have worked hard to get the top level of item for the sets that they use. Also, maybe use the dolmen generals in some future content. It was always exciting to have a general appear and they are cool enough enemies for you to make content with.

    I couldn't agree more, but seriously, the grind of these sets is ridiculously stupid. Having done the 1300 dolmens I only got 2 pieces of Lich and bought the rest, I had triplicates which I gave to my friends for helping me, I talk more about it in this post about how to farm dolmens and drop rates. Prestige that a set brings is all well and good, but the drop chance should be increased massively, at least to equivalent to that of boss helmets (10%) from veteran 4 player content.

    Hey thanks for posting.

    As far as warlock rings go, I would like to believe that it is trash only and it is possible that my friend made a mistake, but the circumstance in which my friend got one (which they traded to me) lead me to believe it was from the final boss. Let's say that my reason isn't a concrete one. That is fine because it isn't super concrete. What evidence is there that it can only be dropped from trash enemies. I'm talking about some kind of game coding or developer said word about the topic.

    The first titan armor all can come from Ozzozachar. The only exception is that a version of the chest (The Bestial Rampart) is the only drop from the Hrelvessu (sp) giant daedroth boss. I also saw your question in your own threads. Yes, the traits are all the same. And that leads my to my last point.

    @ZOS_RichLambert . Dolmen items are very rare. They are also bind on equip and always have the same trait. This hasn't stopped people from farming Dolmens. TO THIS DAY, people go out of their way, to Cyrodiil, to farm and help their friends farm Dolmens. Dolmens are totally irrelevant content for the vast majority of people, but because people can make money by selling the rare items that come from Dolmens, people continue to do Dolmens. Use this insight, seriously.

    For example, any individual piece of the "Draugr Heritage" set has about a 1/1400 Dolmen drop rate based on my calculations. That is a .07% chance to drop. I STILL GOT MY FULL DRAUGR HERITAGE SET BEFORE MY IMPERIUM SET AND BEFORE I GOT A SINGLE PIECE OF LEECHING PLAT ARMOR. And that is all because of the BOE status. Not only does BOE single trait items make irrelevant content relevant, but it gives players something to realistically work toward.

    It is despicable that the new item sets were put behind the BOP bad trait wall and I'll tell you what. I'm not the only player that doesn't have a close chance of finishing their vWGT or vICP sets. Some of the best players in the game still don't have some of the sets they want after endless farming of these places. You know what? With new sets being released vWGT and vICP sets will become irrelevant and, just like the 3-piece sets from the original veteran dungeons, not many people will have ever gotten the chance to enjoy them. It is already hard to get a group to go into the IC dungeons. Nobody wants to do this stupid grind and especially not in vICP as it is the longest veteran dungeon in the game.

    Edited by Personofsecrets on November 27, 2015 7:05PM
  • Sharmony
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    Hey thanks for posting.

    As far as warlock rings go, I would like to believe that it is trash only and it is possible that my friend made a mistake, but the circumstance in which my friend got one (which they traded to me) lead me to believe it was from the final boss. Let's say that my reason isn't a concrete one. That is fine because it isn't super concrete. What evidence is there that it can only be dropped from trash enemies. I'm talking about some kind of game coding or developer said word about the topic.


    Not saying you are wrong either, but I am part of a guild that tried since 1.5 to get top leaderboard positions doing these trials hundreds of times, and as many rings as we had we never had any from bosses, but anything could be possible for drop rates as low as these :smile: I wish we had some more concrete evidence but can only go on what you see in front of you in this game or what we as a community work out most of the time.

    EDIT: Additionally, I just worked out how your mate got his ring for you, as you specified it was Warlock, it was therefore in AA. As the last boss in AA has adds that you kill before the boss insta-spawns (which you don't often loot, as, you know, boss!). So you kill the boss, loot the bosses corpse and it AoE loots the ring that dropped from the trash. I know this because it happened to my friend too :smile:

    The first titan armor all can come from Ozzozachar. The only exception is that a version of the chest (The Bestial Rampart) is the only drop from the Hrelvessu (sp) giant daedroth boss. I also saw your question in your own threads. Yes, the traits are all the same. And that leads my to my last point.

    Awesome, thank you! :smile:

    @ZOS_RichLambert . Dolmen items are very rare. They are also bind on equip and always have the same trait. This hasn't stopped people from farming Dolmens. TO THIS DAY, people go out of their way, to Cyrodiil, to farm and help their friends farm Dolmens. Dolmens are totally irrelevant content for the vast majority of people, but because people can make money by selling the rare items that come from Dolmens, people continue to do Dolmens. Use this insight, seriously.

    For example, any individual piece of the "Draugr Heritage" set has about a 1/1400 Dolmen drop rate based on my calculations. That is a .07% chance to drop. I STILL GOT MY FULL DRAUGR HERITAGE SET BEFORE MY IMPERIUM SET AND BEFORE I GOT A SINGLE PIECE OF LEECHING PLAT ARMOR. And that is all because of the BOE status. Not only does BOE single trait items make irrelevant content relevant, but it gives players something to realistically work toward.

    Oh granted, don't need to tell me about the rarity of the sets, and in fact it's impossible to say a drop rate as you have done. The main reason being is, if you farm solo as I did, then bring in 10 of your best friends when the boss spawns, you are very likely to have if not one, two or three drops of the sets :smile: As we know, you need a boss to spawn (around a 1/10) then the boss to be the one you need, for Lich this is a 1/8 dropping to a 1/16 once you have all the drops from a single boss, and then you have to actually get the boss to drop it (which seem to be a 1/4 from my two weeks of solid farming and calling friends in every time). I don't need caps to illustrate the point by the way, I get you, the drop sets for IC were awful, I'm on run 223 for WGT vet and still miss two pieces of spell power cure, not even mentioning to try and get perfect traits, I just want the set! :smiley: I agree that about BoE items, but not everything should be BoE, especially when content is hard to complete regardless of the economy you have to keep reward, but let's not divulge further into a what should be BoE / BoP debate here please. But yeah, as for making money from dolmens, on PC EU neither of the dolmens sets readily sells. I only know myself and one other person to buy the Lich set, and of the two I am the only one with the full set (but this is only a small example). However, the sales on my addon and many of my friends spanning the major trade guilds show 1 if not no sales for the Lich. Moreover, I have had many pieces of V15 / 16 Draugh Heritage in a major trading guild in Craglorn and it hasn't sold in nearly coming up 3 months. Likewise my friends data shows no sales at all for this set :neutral: Can't really say this set is a viable money farm in any sense of the word therefore, especially as the rarity boosts the price to states where most can't afford. It cost me 1.35mil for my 3 pieces and this was all my money at the time :neutral:

    It is despicable that the new item sets were put behind the BOP bad trait wall and I'll tell you what. I'm not the only player that doesn't have a close chance of finishing their vWGT or vICP sets. Some of the best players in the game still don't have some of the sets they want after endless farming of these places. You know what? With new sets being released vWGT and vICP sets will become irrelevant and, just like the 3-piece sets from the original veteran dungeons, not many people will have ever gotten the chance to enjoy them. It is already hard to get a group to go into the IC dungeons. Nobody wants to do this stupid grind and especially not in vICP as it is the longest veteran dungeon in the game.

    I am one of the players you mention endlessly farming with mates since day one, but once again, there's no point in making this into a debate which the post isn't about. Reward for being skilled enough to play it still needs to be there, but throwing the BoE brush over everything isn't the answer either. As for more relatable things, I'm personally not finding it hard to find groups, thisevening along we had a guild event with 4 separate groups farming the dungeons :smile: As for sets becoming irrelevant, that's kind of unlikely till the new content comes out... and even then we know the level cap will not increase with the coming update (they announced until the vet system is removed this will be the case). Moreover, the only sets that they could introduce that might rock the current sets which would have to be better than the current ones, and given how OP some of the current ones are, this is quite hard to do. Yay for Kena with no drawbacks :wink:
    Edited by Sharmony on November 27, 2015 8:19PM
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  • Spacemonkey
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    I wish we could fish all (TES) legendary items. And shove em into Orsinium's museum (or a main game museum).

    Or just dual weild trueflame and hopesfire, or rock the ice blade of monarch or Chrysamere or skull crusher or stendarr's hammer etc...
  • Personofsecrets
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    Sharmony wrote: »

    Hey thanks for posting.

    As far as warlock rings go, I would like to believe that it is trash only and it is possible that my friend made a mistake, but the circumstance in which my friend got one (which they traded to me) lead me to believe it was from the final boss. Let's say that my reason isn't a concrete one. That is fine because it isn't super concrete. What evidence is there that it can only be dropped from trash enemies. I'm talking about some kind of game coding or developer said word about the topic.


    Not saying you are wrong either, but I am part of a guild that tried since 1.5 to get top leaderboard positions doing these trials hundreds of times, and as many rings as we had we never had any from bosses, but anything could be possible for drop rates as low as these :smile: I wish we had some more concrete evidence but can only go on what you see in front of you in this game or what we as a community work out most of the time.

    EDIT: Additionally, I just worked out how your mate got his ring for you, as you specified it was Warlock, it was therefore in AA. As the last boss in AA has adds that you kill before the boss insta-spawns (which you don't often loot, as, you know, boss!). So you kill the boss, loot the bosses corpse and it AoE loots the ring that dropped from the trash. I know this because it happened to my friend too :smile:

    The first titan armor all can come from Ozzozachar. The only exception is that a version of the chest (The Bestial Rampart) is the only drop from the Hrelvessu (sp) giant daedroth boss. I also saw your question in your own threads. Yes, the traits are all the same. And that leads my to my last point.

    Awesome, thank you! :smile:

    @ZOS_RichLambert . Dolmen items are very rare. They are also bind on equip and always have the same trait. This hasn't stopped people from farming Dolmens. TO THIS DAY, people go out of their way, to Cyrodiil, to farm and help their friends farm Dolmens. Dolmens are totally irrelevant content for the vast majority of people, but because people can make money by selling the rare items that come from Dolmens, people continue to do Dolmens. Use this insight, seriously.

    For example, any individual piece of the "Draugr Heritage" set has about a 1/1400 Dolmen drop rate based on my calculations. That is a .07% chance to drop. I STILL GOT MY FULL DRAUGR HERITAGE SET BEFORE MY IMPERIUM SET AND BEFORE I GOT A SINGLE PIECE OF LEECHING PLAT ARMOR. And that is all because of the BOE status. Not only does BOE single trait items make irrelevant content relevant, but it gives players something to realistically work toward.

    Oh granted, don't need to tell me about the rarity of the sets, and in fact it's impossible to say a drop rate as you have done. The main reason being is, if you farm solo as I did, then bring in 10 of your best friends when the boss spawns, you are very likely to have if not one, two or three drops of the sets :smile: As we know, you need a boss to spawn (around a 1/10) then the boss to be the one you need, for Lich this is a 1/8 dropping to a 1/16 once you have all the drops from a single boss, and then you have to actually get the boss to drop it (which seem to be a 1/4 from my two weeks of solid farming and calling friends in every time). I don't need caps to illustrate the point by the way, I get you, the drop sets for IC were awful, I'm on run 223 for WGT vet and still miss two pieces of spell power cure, not even mentioning to try and get perfect traits, I just want the set! :smiley: I agree that about BoE items, but not everything should be BoE, especially when content is hard to complete regardless of the economy you have to keep reward, but let's not divulge further into a what should be BoE / BoP debate here please. But yeah, as for making money from dolmens, on PC EU neither of the dolmens sets readily sells. I only know myself and one other person to buy the Lich set, and of the two I am the only one with the full set (but this is only a small example). However, the sales on my addon and many of my friends spanning the major trade guilds show 1 if not no sales for the Lich. Moreover, I have had many pieces of V15 / 16 Draugh Heritage in a major trading guild in Craglorn and it hasn't sold in nearly coming up 3 months. Likewise my friends data shows no sales at all for this set :neutral: Can't really say this set is a viable money farm in any sense of the word therefore, especially as the rarity boosts the price to states where most can't afford. It cost me 1.35mil for my 3 pieces and this was all my money at the time :neutral:

    It is despicable that the new item sets were put behind the BOP bad trait wall and I'll tell you what. I'm not the only player that doesn't have a close chance of finishing their vWGT or vICP sets. Some of the best players in the game still don't have some of the sets they want after endless farming of these places. You know what? With new sets being released vWGT and vICP sets will become irrelevant and, just like the 3-piece sets from the original veteran dungeons, not many people will have ever gotten the chance to enjoy them. It is already hard to get a group to go into the IC dungeons. Nobody wants to do this stupid grind and especially not in vICP as it is the longest veteran dungeon in the game.

    I am one of the players you mention endlessly farming with mates since day one, but once again, there's no point in making this into a debate which the post isn't about. Reward for being skilled enough to play it still needs to be there, but throwing the BoE brush over everything isn't the answer either. As for more relatable things, I'm personally not finding it hard to find groups, thisevening along we had a guild event with 4 separate groups farming the dungeons :smile: As for sets becoming irrelevant, that's kind of unlikely till the new content comes out... and even then we know the level cap will not increase with the coming update (they announced until the vet system is removed this will be the case). Moreover, the only sets that they could introduce that might rock the current sets which would have to be better than the current ones, and given how OP some of the current ones are, this is quite hard to do. Yay for Kena with no drawbacks :wink:

    For the AA ring, I thought about that possibility and thought that I had wrote about it earlier in the thread, but all of the mobs bodies had despawned by the time that the boss was looted due to a boss wipe, someone falling off of the platform, and everyone having to wait for them to come back.

    As for the drop rate, it isn't too hard to guess a somewhat accurate one. As far as Draugr Heritage armor, there is a niche market for it. The Lich market is better though.

    Since you don't want to debate (and I don't want to much either) the only comments I have is that the BOP system is probably to force people into buying DLC, but not necessarily to give players a challenge. It is also rather easy for developers to make sets which obsolete current gear. All it takes is power creep which is pretty common to occur in all games.
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    After the last rare item thread I wanted to put together a new thread that has some pictures for you all to see. This should be a good resource for you collectors and help people know more about these sets. I'm 99% sure that I am correct in my explanations of the items and how to obtain them.

    aPcfIPf.jpg

    Purple rings I believe to be a final boss drop from AA (Warlock) and Hel-Ra (Syrabane), but you may also be able to get purple rings from the trash enemies in those trials. You can at least get the blue rings from trash enemies as well as some other items that have a low percent chance drop rate such as the Stygian Dagger from AA and the Claw of the Dragon from Hel-Ra.

    4PDyEGw.jpg

    These are some other items that I believe have the low percent chance drop rate. There may be more items than just these, but I am most confident that these shoulders are hard to get.

    VC1L1zt.jpg

    The First Titan set can be difficult to get as it only drops from dolmen chests that appear after the general Ozzozachar (Son of Molag Bal) has been defeated. The loot pool for a boss drop is actually 8 because there are the items "Ozzozachar's Claw" and "Ozzozachar's Tooth" that can drop.

    oDFleZF.jpg

    The Lich set can also be difficult to get as it, again, only comes from dolmen bosses after either The Lich of Mournhold (Gedna Relvel) or the Seductive Sisters (Vika, Dylora, and Jansa) have been defeated. Defeating The Lich of Mournhold can cause the Robe and Crown of the Lich to drop from the chest. Defeating the Seductive Sisters can cause the Bracers of the Lich, Epaulets of the Lich, Dylor'as Staff, and Mask of the Darkest Seducer to drop from the chest.

    eqG7wex.jpg

    These final dolmen items are just some cool extras that are popular vanity choices. Hood of the Voidguide can drop after The Traveling Dremora (Methats, Vonshala, and Sumeer) have been beaten and both anguish items have a chance of dropping once the torturers (Kathutet, Amkaos, and Ranyu) have been conquered.

    Finally I'd like to tell any devs that may be reading how quite a few people enjoy collecting items. Please be careful with how you handle the changes in item levels because many people have worked hard to get the top level of item for the sets that they use. Also, maybe use the dolmen generals in some future content. It was always exciting to have a general appear and they are cool enough enemies for you to make content with.

    I finish with a picture from some great dolmen runs.

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    that is weird, that for such higher VR ranks it has pretty low stats - VR12 : 130 damage + 40 flame damage? WTH??
    Edited by altemriel on November 27, 2015 9:08PM
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    because this screenshots was before the patch with x10 all stats
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    altemriel wrote: »
    After the last rare item thread I wanted to put together a new thread that has some pictures for you all to see. This should be a good resource for you collectors and help people know more about these sets. I'm 99% sure that I am correct in my explanations of the items and how to obtain them.

    aPcfIPf.jpg

    Purple rings I believe to be a final boss drop from AA (Warlock) and Hel-Ra (Syrabane), but you may also be able to get purple rings from the trash enemies in those trials. You can at least get the blue rings from trash enemies as well as some other items that have a low percent chance drop rate such as the Stygian Dagger from AA and the Claw of the Dragon from Hel-Ra.

    4PDyEGw.jpg

    These are some other items that I believe have the low percent chance drop rate. There may be more items than just these, but I am most confident that these shoulders are hard to get.

    VC1L1zt.jpg

    The First Titan set can be difficult to get as it only drops from dolmen chests that appear after the general Ozzozachar (Son of Molag Bal) has been defeated. The loot pool for a boss drop is actually 8 because there are the items "Ozzozachar's Claw" and "Ozzozachar's Tooth" that can drop.

    oDFleZF.jpg

    The Lich set can also be difficult to get as it, again, only comes from dolmen bosses after either The Lich of Mournhold (Gedna Relvel) or the Seductive Sisters (Vika, Dylora, and Jansa) have been defeated. Defeating The Lich of Mournhold can cause the Robe and Crown of the Lich to drop from the chest. Defeating the Seductive Sisters can cause the Bracers of the Lich, Epaulets of the Lich, Dylor'as Staff, and Mask of the Darkest Seducer to drop from the chest.

    eqG7wex.jpg

    These final dolmen items are just some cool extras that are popular vanity choices. Hood of the Voidguide can drop after The Traveling Dremora (Methats, Vonshala, and Sumeer) have been beaten and both anguish items have a chance of dropping once the torturers (Kathutet, Amkaos, and Ranyu) have been conquered.

    Finally I'd like to tell any devs that may be reading how quite a few people enjoy collecting items. Please be careful with how you handle the changes in item levels because many people have worked hard to get the top level of item for the sets that they use. Also, maybe use the dolmen generals in some future content. It was always exciting to have a general appear and they are cool enough enemies for you to make content with.

    I finish with a picture from some great dolmen runs.

    udNkDI4.jpg

    that is weird, that for such higher VR ranks it has pretty low stats - VR12 : 130 damage + 40 flame damage? WTH??

    The image contains pictures of items that had the old stats which had not yet been artificially inflated.
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    [quote="The image contains pictures of items that had the old stats which had not yet been artificially inflated. [/quote]


    what do you mean by "old stats" and "not yet been inflated"?
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    altemriel wrote: »
    [quote="The image contains pictures of items that had the old stats which had not yet been artificially inflated.


    what do you mean by "old stats" and "not yet been inflated"?[/quote]

    zos buff all items and all stats of the hero by x10
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