End discussion, the entire game pop CANNOT play as EP. You want a challenge, have some people make their main something else besides EP. HERE'S A CLUE! YOU ARE NOT DRAGONBORN BECAUSE YOU PLAY EP! If everyone chooses to play as EP then there will be no PVP. Perhaps spreading the word that AD and DC needs a population jump will help. Or maybe EP can stop trying to take over every server including the DC buff server. It's completely possible for every alliance to have one buff server and then fight on the others. It's very discouraging when there's no hope of keeping buffs for your side in PVP when no one else wants to bother will the horde of people who dream of being dragonborn. So when you play EP you get bored because there's no challenge, switch sides and try getting the population up so it makes it fun for all sides. Also less exploits from the game devs would help but that won't see much until 1.6.
hammayolettuce wrote: »
He's not wrong though. At least when we're talking about population imbalance. They only play in Chillrend to protect buffs. They should not be considered part of DC's PvP population because you will never get them to play in any other campaign that actually needs help, no matter how hard you try.
hammayolettuce wrote: »
He's not wrong though. At least when we're talking about population imbalance. They only play in Chillrend to protect buffs. They should not be considered part of DC's PvP population because you will never get them to play in any other campaign that actually needs help, no matter how hard you try.
I knew what he was getting at . I just think it's not the best attitude . Make friends , help out and people are more likely to reciprocate . I've seen people get more involved when they see not every one in PVP is a jerk .
kevlarto_ESO wrote: »DC was pop locked on two campaigns thorny and chilly around 8:30pm or 9pm est, they are just late to the game..
hammayolettuce wrote: »Hell, I did DSA and AA for the first time ever a few weeks ago. And I hate PvE.
If an Alliance isn't supposed to control the map/server, then why are there bonuses for having all the scrolls and keeps?hammayolettuce wrote: »End discussion, the entire game pop CANNOT play as EP. You want a challenge, have some people make their main something else besides EP. HERE'S A CLUE! YOU ARE NOT DRAGONBORN BECAUSE YOU PLAY EP! If everyone chooses to play as EP then there will be no PVP. Perhaps spreading the word that AD and DC needs a population jump will help. Or maybe EP can stop trying to take over every server including the DC buff server. It's completely possible for every alliance to have one buff server and then fight on the others. It's very discouraging when there's no hope of keeping buffs for your side in PVP when no one else wants to bother will the horde of people who dream of being dragonborn. So when you play EP you get bored because there's no challenge, switch sides and try getting the population up so it makes it fun for all sides. Also less exploits from the game devs would help but that won't see much until 1.6.
Yeah, um, the goal is to *not* have buff servers. What we want is competitive campaigns, which is difficult when EP tends to zerg through them all. But no one gives a *** about buffs FFS. That's why myself and my guild refuse to play in Chillrend.
If an Alliance isn't supposed to control the map/server, then why are there bonuses for having all the scrolls and keeps?hammayolettuce wrote: »End discussion, the entire game pop CANNOT play as EP. You want a challenge, have some people make their main something else besides EP. HERE'S A CLUE! YOU ARE NOT DRAGONBORN BECAUSE YOU PLAY EP! If everyone chooses to play as EP then there will be no PVP. Perhaps spreading the word that AD and DC needs a population jump will help. Or maybe EP can stop trying to take over every server including the DC buff server. It's completely possible for every alliance to have one buff server and then fight on the others. It's very discouraging when there's no hope of keeping buffs for your side in PVP when no one else wants to bother will the horde of people who dream of being dragonborn. So when you play EP you get bored because there's no challenge, switch sides and try getting the population up so it makes it fun for all sides. Also less exploits from the game devs would help but that won't see much until 1.6.
Yeah, um, the goal is to *not* have buff servers. What we want is competitive campaigns, which is difficult when EP tends to zerg through them all. But no one gives a *** about buffs FFS. That's why myself and my guild refuse to play in Chillrend.
..And I just assumed it was because there was no casuals to farm AP from?
Seriously tho... I get what you are saying, I think it's narrow minded but, I get it.
Not every player who steps foot in cyrodiil is interested in no-life farming AP.
That's not how it works.
Thousands of players love to pvp sometimes, some even most of the time, but very few all of the time (and I think you have sorted out amongst yourselves, that still play, who you are).
What is the motivation to aimlessly hop servers in an endless cycle to "help campaigns that need it"?
Although considered an abomination by the "all the time" players, at least buff campaigns serve a purpose. They deliver motivation, some reason to do something besides grinding gear. dungeons, and pointless never-ending two front zerg wars.
I've said it in other threads, until Imperial City is released (which now looks eons away) the standard "competitive" gameplay has gotten stale. ie Everyone fighting the same two battlefronts endlessly.
Invading and defending buff servers delivers a different type of gameplay.
Honestly tho I would have to concede that the old notion of buff servers is fading. It is now more of a 'How long can you hold it for'- type of thing , not a 'Same emperor for months'- type of thing
oh yh and the Emp farming ...(going to stop here b4 wall o'text gets any bigger)
DC are constantly just thrown about like rag dolls and are sadly like children with no one to tell them what to do (Besides a few very good players)
For the last few months they have been making some bad mistakes in PvP and have sadly paid for it. They have this knack of constantly attacking the wrong alliance at the wrong time consistently and then those factions get their revenge and trash them for days.
For example 2 weeks ago we had a DC scroll in in Faregyl and I was on all day. Ash was attacked twice in 8 hours Nikel maybe once but all day DC just pounded Bleakers/Chalman (Owned by EP). It amazes me. They should have been pushing on us.
As for example the other day when EP had Emp all the scrolls from every faction and finally DC got 3 bars they pushed south...for 2 hours straight. They Took Ash, they took Nikel and then Roe so while all of AD wanted to push Alessia/Sej we wanted our home keeps back and wasted 2 hours pushing blue back North.
Obviously Free Will comes into the equation but come on!!!
Wacky DC zone chat . Just man up an shake it off like these dudes .
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153032447179547&id=150435169546&refsrc=http://www.google.com/&_rdr
End discussion, the entire game pop CANNOT play as EP. You want a challenge, have some people make their main something else besides EP. HERE'S A CLUE! YOU ARE NOT DRAGONBORN BECAUSE YOU PLAY EP! If everyone chooses to play as EP then there will be no PVP. Perhaps spreading the word that AD and DC needs a population jump will help. Or maybe EP can stop trying to take over every server including the DC buff server. It's completely possible for every alliance to have one buff server and then fight on the others. It's very discouraging when there's no hope of keeping buffs for your side in PVP when no one else wants to bother will the horde of people who dream of being dragonborn. So when you play EP you get bored because there's no challenge, switch sides and try getting the population up so it makes it fun for all sides. Also less exploits from the game devs would help but that won't see much until 1.6.
Sallington wrote: »Dont forget the 2-3 bars of DC on Haderus too. Nothing like half-assing 3 campaigns at the same time!