Meteor OP, 21k Hit

Seraphyel

Aoife32001 wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Meteor is just overpowered.

It has an incredible strong initial hit PLUS an incredible strong AoE DoT. As I said, it's better than most class ultimates (Nova & Standard are crap compared to Meteor).

Because being hit by a flaming ice boulder hurtling through the atmosphere from space shouldn't hurt that much

The fact that this is so slow moving and can be blocked/reflected I think negates it being "OP"

I don't say it shouldn't hurt, but right now it's better than most class ultimates out there and that shouldn't be the goal in the end.

With the AoE DoT left from the impact it is a Nova / Standard with high burst damage PLUS a higher DoT PLUS less Ultimate costs.

Zenimax must improve some class ultimates or change Meteor in any way - e.g. giving the DoT field only with a morph or something like that.

shebali

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

shebali wrote: »

snipeopsub17_ESO wrote: »

It needs to be fixed now, or pvp will turn into meteor spam.

20k damage is nothing. That is current in game 2k. In live you can get 3k meteors, but you don't see it because how slow the move is and it does not track. The move is pretty useless.

No, its better now, because on live server Health we had a lot higher Health, Health scaling was nerfed... You cant transfer Healt from Live to PTS 1:10

The damage in live can be near 3k. Also, you can't really tell how things are going to be on PTS until you have over 300 CP. Stats and everything are lowered by a lot due to not having full CP.

Alcast

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

shebali wrote: »

snipeopsub17_ESO wrote: »

It needs to be fixed now, or pvp will turn into meteor spam.

20k damage is nothing. That is current in game 2k. In live you can get 3k meteors, but you don't see it because how slow the move is and it does not track. The move is pretty useless.

No, its better now, because on live server Health we had a lot higher Health, Health scaling was nerfed... You cant transfer Healt from Live to PTS 1:10

Alcast wrote: »

This high dmg is only because all noobs still wear 7/7 light and do not realise that they have 5000 spell res on PTS

I had alot more Resistance then 5000...

I used Heavy Armor + Impenetrable and I had Fire Resistance on my Jewelry

well maybe he stacked spell pene stuff which ignors all of your armor. bc it is buggy i guess still as on live

Panda244

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

ToRelax

So...

First off, you can not compare player health on Live to PTS that easily.
Then, you can not really compare Meteor on Live to the 1.6 version. Can maybe say it's more useful in 1.6 but that's it.
The damage is what you get when hitting vampire with major spell damage and empower buff + 30k Magicka. Dont see the issue, just give incentive to put points in health again and make that build reasonable, the damage will be lower and the average health higher, "problem" solved.
Besides that, you can cloak, block, use harness, reflect, absorb... it really has a lot of counters actually, you just need to survive it without loosing to much resources and can call it a counter as your enemy spent all his ultimate.

And thanks for the video, @pjwb16_ESO .

Seraphyel

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

So, what's Nova? Shouldn't it be some kind of tiny Supernova? It just alters gravity around it's center. That should be "more" than a Meteor, shouldn't it?

Logic doesn't help here much.

Some people seem to be misunderstanding the real issue behind it - Meteor just outshines most DPS class Ultimates. That's some kind of issue.

Dymence

Hey, at least it gives me something to use as a sorc dps.

pjwb16_ESO

ToRelax wrote: »

So...

First off, you can not compare player health on Live to PTS that easily.
Then, you can not really compare Meteor on Live to the 1.6 version. Can maybe say it's more useful in 1.6 but that's it.
The damage is what you get when hitting vampire with major spell damage and empower buff + 30k Magicka. Dont see the issue, just give incentive to put points in health again and make that build reasonable, the damage will be lower and the average health higher, "problem" solved.
Besides that, you can cloak, block, use harness, reflect, absorb... it really has a lot of counters actually, you just need to survive it without loosing to much resources and can call it a counter as your enemy spent all his ultimate.

And thanks for the video, @pjwb16_ESO .

No problem

Teiji

Anyone that doesn't block an ultimate which is blockable deserves to die.

Panda244

Seraphyel wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

So, what's Nova? Shouldn't it be some kind of tiny Supernova? It just alters gravity around it's center. That should be "more" than a Meteor, shouldn't it?

Logic doesn't help here much.

Some people seem to be misunderstanding the real issue behind it - Meteor just outshines most DPS class Ultimates. That's some kind of issue.

lol... It's a mage's guild ultimate, so I don't care if it's better than class ultimates, it should be on par or better than them, they nerfed so many class ultimates so it's on them. Not us.

c0rp

Ultimates are working as intended? I am glad to hear this.

Snit

I want Meteor to outshine my class ultimates, as it's just fun to use. I like the concept, the graphics, the sound - the whole bit. BOOM!

When looking at its damage output, it's probably not helpful when people post cases where the recipient was a vampire taking an unblocked critical hit.

Kypho

Zenimax balance
Another fail

Ezareth

Dymence wrote: »

Hey, at least it gives me something to use as a sorc dps.

Yeah it's not like they didn't buff the most powerful single target damage ult in the game which happens to also give you a third spell bar by 50% or anything...

Pyatra

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

danovic wrote: »

21k hit isn't much with all the new stats. with old system it would be 2100 really hasn't changed that much.

Wrong, Health is not 1:1 to live, its less so its pretty significant. Its more about the timing of Meteor along with the DoT that makes it strong

pjwb16_ESO

c0rp wrote: »

Ultimates are working as intended? I am glad to hear this.

Lol, Meteor is still ready like every 30 seconds...

killedbyping

Meteor is too easy to avoid to call it OP -.-

More like nubslap skill. But thats perfectly ok IMHO. Just new and more fun version of good old Soul Strike.

Panda244

killedbyping wrote: »

Meteor is too easy to avoid to call it OP -.-

More like nubslap skill. But thats perfectly ok IMHO. Just new and more fun version of good old Soul Strike.

This. Reflect it, block it, heal through it. Just like ereethang else.

AriBoh

Panda244 wrote: »

killedbyping wrote: »

Meteor is too easy to avoid to call it OP -.-

More like nubslap skill. But thats perfectly ok IMHO. Just new and more fun version of good old Soul Strike.

This. Reflect it, block it, heal through it. Just like ereethang else.

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

Then you shouldnt be able to reflect, block , heal it. By your own quote it should leave a smoldering hole where a keep uesd to be.

Lettigall

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

A nova is a cataclysmic nuclear explosion on a white dwarf, which causes a sudden brightening of the star.

Why Nirn is still standing there after templar uses his ultimate?

kieso

Lettigall wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

A nova is a cataclysmic nuclear explosion on a white dwarf, which causes a sudden brightening of the star.

Why Nirn is still standing there after templar uses his ultimate?

A wizard did it.

Seraphyel

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

killedbyping wrote: »

Meteor is too easy to avoid to call it OP -.-

More like nubslap skill. But thats perfectly ok IMHO. Just new and more fun version of good old Soul Strike.

This. Reflect it, block it, heal through it. Just like ereethang else.

Panda244 wrote: »

Meteor. Is a meteor. A METEOR!!! Called down from the heavens to vaporize you. It should be blatantly OP.

Then you shouldnt be able to reflect, block , heal it. By your own quote it should leave a smoldering hole where a keep uesd to be.

Indeed.

Reflect or block Meteor? LOL