Food and Drink still don't mix in 1.6

tinythinker

I thought maybe it had just been left out of the patch notes, but you still have to pick either food *or* drink on the initial PTS version of 1.6. Either using both was an idea that was shelved or it just didn't make it into this update.

Rosveen

We've known since they put up Provisioning Guide on the website. It's intended.

AlnilamE

Yes. They said that they were making drinks "more attractive" to see if that increased their use.

daemonios

I was also under the impression that you would be able to stack food and drink in 1.6...

SLy_Kyti

The last "Ask me anything" and news on website for provisioning says they no longer plan to have these stack. They want us to test on pts to see if new drink stats make it a " viable" thing as compared to food.

tinythinker

I must have missed that provisioning article. Too bad they changed that.

Armitas

Eating without drinking gives me the hiccups...Well played ZOS...Well played.

SLy_Kyti

Here ya be >>. http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/01/19/update-6-guide-provisioning

Blackmoon777

Ok we now they dont stuck , but drinks are still useless compere to food, v10 drink is +140 all 3 regs (so it is like +14 on live now) ,

my opinion: live them as they are now and let us stuck food and drinks

Dagoth_Rac

From what I saw, VR5 green drink on PTS gives you +187 magicka regen. Which works out to about 19 regen on current system (since magicka was multiplied by about 10 across the board). That is better than live where it is, what, +13 regen for green VR5 drink? But I don't think it is anywhere near enough of a boost to make drink competitive with food.

DeLindsay

Blackmoon777 wrote: »

Ok we now they dont stuck , but drinks are still useless compere to food, v10 drink is +140 all 3 regs (so it is like +14 on live now) ,

my opinion: live them as they are now and let us stuck food and drinks

Drinks definitely still suck. The highest possible regen (VR10) is like 153 or something which is ~5-7% every 2 seconds of what ONE normal ability costs. Granted that's an improvement from Live but not remotely what I'd call useful. ZoS shouldn't have changed their minds and should just have left it as Drinks stacking with Food in 1.6, without buffing Drinks to make them "more useful".

Junipus

They're not very useful. The extra 1000s from VR10 food in all 3 stats is far more useful than extra regen since the regen isn't that useful when you can't survive long enough to see their benefit.

ZOS make a pretty basic error in understanding the desires of the community.

Bouvin

DeLindsay wrote: »

Blackmoon777 wrote: »

Ok we now they dont stuck , but drinks are still useless compere to food, v10 drink is +140 all 3 regs (so it is like +14 on live now) ,

my opinion: live them as they are now and let us stuck food and drinks

Drinks definitely still suck. The highest possible regen (VR10) is like 153 or something which is ~5-7% every 2 seconds of what ONE normal ability costs. Granted that's an improvement from Live but not remotely what I'd call useful. ZoS shouldn't have changed their minds and should just have left it as Drinks stacking with Food in 1.6, without buffing Drinks to make them "more useful".

ZOS is becoming pretty well known for changing their minds.

Best to take anything they say with a grain of salt.

tinythinker

Bouvin wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Blackmoon777 wrote: »

Ok we now they dont stuck , but drinks are still useless compere to food, v10 drink is +140 all 3 regs (so it is like +14 on live now) ,

my opinion: live them as they are now and let us stuck food and drinks

Drinks definitely still suck. The highest possible regen (VR10) is like 153 or something which is ~5-7% every 2 seconds of what ONE normal ability costs. Granted that's an improvement from Live but not remotely what I'd call useful. ZoS shouldn't have changed their minds and should just have left it as Drinks stacking with Food in 1.6, without buffing Drinks to make them "more useful".

ZOS is becoming pretty well known for changing their minds.

Best to take anything they say with a grain of salt.

Is salt still an available ingredient in the game?

But yeah, to the previous point still not seeing drinks/drink ingredients as something to spend inventory space.

baratron

Lots of us were hoping that food and drinks would stack. I am disappointed that this isn't the case.

Digiman

Same from RPing stand point as well. I understand it would be OP but tweaking the numbers so its more beneficial to have food with drink would make them more attractive to use rather then picking and choosing.

Orchish

I was hoping they would stack, food is still the obvious choice for me.