Official Discussion Thread for “ESO Heads to Consoles June 9th”

Naivefanboi

Sunver wrote: »

I dont understand most of the players here: lets give it a try. If the game becomes crap you can quit. Personally i think this game will stay mostly the same for those who will keep paying the subscription fee(me included) with one difference - tonnes of new players will join us.

If thats not true Ill stop shaving for twelve months.

Zenimax! Dont make me regret my words!

go buy a motiff in the cool cash shop. might as well do that with all rare loot right? wouldnt want people to sell it for gold if they already know it...vomit

GaBacon

zomnomnombie wrote: »

lol yeah

Naivefanboi

Sindala wrote: »

Personally I have no sympathy for all you who are now 'so outraged'. I have been getting bans and censored for the past 6 months from telling you lot this and all I got was reported and flamed.
So who's gonna be the first bag man to step up and say sorry to the "trolls" that tried to warn you not to waste your hard earned cash?.....waiting

defended their bs since beta. i was 150% wrong! game has tons of potential but it failed. you were right!

HairyFairy

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Seth_Black

MASSIVE disappointment! Zenimax from the start claimed sub-based game is way better for all players [and that's completely TRUE] and they will remain with this model. This was one of the biggest assurances for us - players, that we will receive regular content updates and quality of service! Now ESO will be thrown down to the pit of F2P trash to get ripped apart by stupid kids constantly whining that game is TOO HARD, there will be begging for gold and guild communities will fall...
I feel cheated, and my support shown in subscriptions paid is simply thrown back straight into my face. ESO was already doing so good ...improved in so many aspects...
Huge loss for all fans...

myndbulletsub17_ESO

so i spent all this damn time on this game for it only to go f2p? NO REAL HARDCORE gamer enjoys ala-carte gaming. frankly the only way youll survive financially with the f2p model is if you refrain from doing purchases for storage space/inventory space, and step it up on the endgame raids and character progression ceiling. Please dont be short sighted.... as with the champion system, employ progression systems: ie< to crafting that would take a couple of years to fully develop. youll see a die hard community throwing you the big cash for a reliable and fair f2p model.

phl0w

What about those of us who paid in advance for a long term subscription? How are we going to be compensated for this?

The Tamriel Unlimited FAQ explicitly states, that running subs are converted into ESO Plus subscriptions:
The remaining subscription time will automatically transition to ESO Plus membership. You will receive the applicable allotment of crowns as described above. No refunds will be offered on existing subscriptions.

Funny thing is, I bought another 60-day GTC yesterday, and the clerk in the store asked whether this game was sub based on console too. I answered that the console versions aren't out yet but it will be a monthly subscription also. He then said, that they (i.e. ZOS) surely won't ask customers to pay a sub on top of their running XBL Gold or PS+ yearly membership; "They cannot do that!" My answer was "As far as things look now, they will." Oh, how little did I know...

First disappointment was Dragon Age Inquisition, that was ruined by catering to console crowd with a watered down combat, clumsy UI, and clunky keyboard&mouse controls. And now this.

Seriously considering going back to FFXIV:ARR now. Sure, endgame is all grinding tiers á la WoW, but at least I really liked the community, and it actually felt like an MMO. ESO otoh, I've been playing on my own since lvl45 (VR3 now), and never see anyone else outside Cyrodil. Not many casuals in it for the long run it seems, I'm sure ZOS know that.

At least 1.6 goes live soon, so us paying customers can QC for ZOS for free before the cheapskates hit the servers, and troll the boards because of bugs, and OP chars!

soyhodon

Cancelled sub, thanks for lying to us!

Mountainrunnin3

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

April 1 right?! Thats a joke?! I left GW2 because of that "gem store" I really hate that. No cool updates just only every week new "buy brand-new shiny items". Pls no costumes skins!!! Only character slot, barber shop, etc. NO items pls! Our goals collect gears, items. If we buy it, in gem store no more goals.

I'm pretty sure that you can't buy armor in the crown store. But you can buy costumes that go over your armor, from what I understand from ESO live.

Mountainrunnin3

Looks like update 6 comes out sometime next week!

Mr_Luscan

I wouldn't mind the F2P crowd but it's the store that concerns me most. Played LOTRO for several years, and got tired of seeing all the "Pre-Order and you'll get this exclusive, only available thru Pre-Order <Item> and then 2 months after it's finally released, there's that item in the store. I don't know the numbers cause I was here to play Elder Scrolls and having an awesome time instead of reading about the game. But all of us who pre-ordered, got the 5 day (3.5 actually) pre-play and were rewarded the monkey as one of those little useless pets that follow everyone around. How will those X# x thousands of us are gonna be happy to see it in the store.

Not only that but how much "Gameplay Boosting" items are gonna be there? We worked hard to get our XP's and here's some fool on F2P who buys all those XP Boosts, and other XP Accelerators. Or items to enhance your weps & armor that are not available or just ultra-extremely-mega rare drops from a Boss almost impossible to beat, and then only a chance to drop, but will be justifiably said to "Drop in the game". IE: BUY the item, or try to find that boss and then kill it 40 times in the hopes that you can get that drop.

And then there will be the chat:
"I need gold. Someone send me gold, You have a lot of gold. give me some".
And you'll also find them to be the biggest, in Chat, complainers. They want it and they want it now, and someone, mainly the Devs had better give it to them. Granted that isn't exactly what's said, but that's the bottom line. It's Give me everything I want, but don't charge me for it. They will complain about graphics, gameplay, combat, everything. But horror of horrors, don't charge for a monthly sub.
Remember on launch all the groups of bots gathered around the Boss spawn sites and you'd have to wait thru a couple of spawns to make sure you were able to do enuf dmg to get the Achievement for that Boss/dungeon. Get to do it again! Plus bots around resource spawn sites. Oh what fun will be had by all. :[

The biggest reason I came here was because that player onscreen near me has exactly the same chance as I do, and the only difference is how much effort is put into the gameplay, but I have the same chance of advancing as that player does. Except PvP. I don't cause I suck at it, and a few other reasons! :]
I'm afraid it's going the way lotro is. I believe the quote is "Buy to Win". :]

Maybe I'll go back and play Skyrim again, or Oblivion, or even see if there's a copy of Daggerfall available that will work on my PC. Never played that one.

Mr_Luscan

Sindala wrote: »

Personally I have no sympathy for all you who are now 'so outraged'. I have been getting bans and censored for the past 6 months from telling you lot this and all I got was reported and flamed.
So who's gonna be the first bag man to step up and say sorry to the "trolls" that tried to warn you not to waste your hard earned cash?.....waiting

Actually I think the Troll is forgetting that if no one paid subs over this past year, there would prolly not be a game in existence for us to be complaining about going F2L (That's Free to Leech's)

Ourorboros

From the FAQ, biggest difference will be more new players in starting areas. With no grinding areas, it will be a few months for them to hit Vet/Champion at least. Bots should not be a much bigger issue as long as character slot restrictions stay in place.
Two biggest concerns for me are: What will the new subscription costs be? If it gets jacked up, so long. If it stays the same for ESO Plus, then it's a non-issue. Second, what will happen with add-on support? The UI sucks donkeys without some fantastic add-ons. It authors drop support for their add-ons and ZOS continues with their BS attitude about the UI, that will be a big factor in staying or leaving.

radiostar

Oh, you just made PC Gamer mag very happy!

GeronimoChief

I'm so seriously DISAPPOINTED that i cant even log in game now ...

celticstorm

People need to quit crying because of the principle of free to play or buy to play. Game companies know what they're getting themselves into now that this has been around a while. Zenimax has listened to what the players think. I'll be here and supporting the game for a long time.

poltida

So we really did pay to test their product so they can release it free to everyone else?

Like everyone else said, there's no better word to say than -Disappointed-, I played warhammer until the it failed, Rift until it failed, now ESO is bound to fail.

I don't understand how they think they can make more money that way, EVERYONE that I know that play those game doesn't buy anything at all. And I certainly wont either, ill play it free until it rots and then just move on to something else. and then just guess how many TES fan that feel the same way I do will think of buying TES:6 ? I will personaly rip it off and Seed it until my PC burns.

It was a fun... 10 months... with so many promises...

poltida

and FYI, the game goes for 20$.. not 60$ like most of us paid for ... unfinished

Lettigall

Not paying monthly subscription seems good at first, but how it affect future of the game? With no monthly payments only income for ZOS will be from sold copies of the game and cash shop.

If income from selling game will lower, number of items in cash shop and item importance will rise!

Hope ZOS knows what are they doing and game isn't on the path of p2w and f2p!

andrewsleonrwb17_ESO

I like the way the game is heading, I have resorvations about F2P as well, but let's see how it goes. We can always leave if it's crap. Damn shame as it had everyhing I wanted on paper. Still I won't miss the customer support ......... well the customer support that I was always chasing and could never catch ........

ShadoPanauin

I always knew PC was a beta for console.. ugh.

ShadoPanauin

Explains the bugs!

Vegaroth

GARBAGE!!!!!

phl0w

On the German boards an admin answers lots of questions regarding the shop, long-time subscribers, DLC, in short clears up a lot of things, thus helps keeping down the rage. Why does none of the English speaking admins care to speak?

Jamesbr1b14_ESO

DirectorSCUD wrote: »

Hit me right in the guts. Will give you guys a chance, though. As soon as F2P-community is going downhill, I'm out. Promise.

AGREE 100%! The minute, and I mean, the minute that I see this turn that F2P/B2W corner where the game gets "dumbed down" and the community is populated by a bunch of "keyboard mashers", I'm done!
Every other game that has gone this direction has ruined any type of enjoyment I had for it and I have left within weeks. If this goes that same direction, I'll just find something else.

Faythsrequiem

The wording of the announcement makes it sound like a Pay to Win =( I'll play subscription and F2P MMO's, but if ESO is turning into a Pay to Win game, I'm out. Seriously disappointed =(

Lindur

Love that trailer! ESO ON CONSOLES!!!

elfodemente

Even this is extremely disapointing i might give this game another try, only cuz i've loved it so much.

But only to think all the time and efort this community has spent defending this game against trolls and haters all arounf the internet is worth nothing now, you make all of us feel like absolute s***! I really want this go be a great game but i also think that you've already doomed it Zenimax....

muroface

*** the First-World-Problems/Gamer Baby levels in this thread are off the chart.

xXLEGIONofONEXx

I'm honestly surprised. Even though the earlier info that ZOS dropping the 6 month subscription would lead to this, I had high optimism because ZOS has always showed that they listened to their players in the past and no one wants this. The more that games come out f2p, the more that other games will switch to f2p to compete. I thought for sure that this day would never come. It's a sad day for eso players, ZOS...you let us down....looks like I owe my friend that cigarette after all.