If Addon support was discontinued tomorrow...

Divinius

I've seen a number of Addon-related threads talking about their "necessity" for being able to play (or at least enjoy) the game. I'm just curious how reliant on Addons this game actually is, according to the forum posters here.

So I propose a poll:

Bored_One

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

Add-ons fill a void for me. If their support is discontinued, I hope zeni is ready to fill the gap.

Potenza

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

More than for my enjoyment - they make things functional

Artemiisia

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

seriously !!! dont even kid about something like that

dharbert

I've never used addons at all, so this wouldn't affect me.

It wouldn't affect me in the slightest. I've done everything in this game up to and including end game content without a single addon. Those who rely on them are the elitist min/maxers, terribads who can't play otherwise, or players wishing this was the other MMO they used to play.

Sallington

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

More than for my enjoyment - they make things functional

Yup. I don't know how people get the information they need without addons.

I mean, how do you even play not knowing how much damage your attacks are doing, or how big your heals are. Did that attack/heal crit? WHO KNOWS!?!?!
How close am I to the softcap? WHO KNOWS?!?!

diabeticDemon18

I use (or have used) a few addons, but I wouldn't care at all if support went away.

I don't understand how someone can play a game, just because they load it with add-ons... it's not even the same game anymore and I don't like it. I use one add-on and that's simply because I want to see my players experience bar and how close I am to leveling up, I don't care if that goes away. It's just more convenient for me. How simply removing add-ons causes people to quit is totally beyond me

Potenza

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

I don't understand how someone can play a game, just because they load it with add-ons... it's not even the same game anymore and I don't like it. I use one add-on and that's simply because I want to see my players experience bar and how close I am to leveling up, I don't care if that goes away. It's just more convenient for me. How simply removing add-ons causes people to quit is totally beyond me

Because an add on can actually make the game work better. Take the quick-slot bar for instance - try and use it on the fly in the middle of any battle whether its pvp or pve - bet you die if you were trying to get to a health pot. This is just ONE example of game improvements add-ons offer. If ZOS was to step in and improve the features themselves, I would opt for that. But they haven done it yet.

Edit: here is a functional quick slot bar I use: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info258-GreymindQuickSlotBar.html

Sallington

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

I don't understand how someone can play a game, just because they load it with add-ons... it's not even the same game anymore and I don't like it. I use one add-on and that's simply because I want to see my players experience bar and how close I am to leveling up, I don't care if that goes away. It's just more convenient for me. How simply removing add-ons causes people to quit is totally beyond me

Because an add on can actually make the game work better. Take the quick-slot bar for instance - try and use it on the fly in the middle of any battle whether its pvp or pve - bet you die if you were trying to get to a health pot. This is just ONE example of game improvements add-ons offer. If ZOS was to step in and improve the features themselves, I would opt for that. But they haven done it yet.

How many keys are there on a keyboard? And they chose to go with that terrible "quick"slot radial wheel thing?

Smells of console catering.

kewl

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

Return to hours of manual inventory management, plus all the bugs, plus lag, plus borked mechanics? Nah.

The work Todo and SnowmanDK have done on Bank Manager, allows me to overlook many ESO negatives.

ZOS should be sending addon devs free merchandise. Garkin deserves a stipend.

Divinius

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

I pretty much only use addons that provide functionality that I feel the game is lacking. Advanced Filters, Crafting Material Level Display, etc. And I still find myself unwilling to play without them.

The only addon that I use that displays anything in the main view during gameplay is LootDrop, for a few seconds after I auto-loot something, and that's only because I hate manually looting, but still want to see what I'm getting. Everything else is functionality and additional info that's only shown in menus and windows that are only brought up when needed. I actually like the game's clean and minimalistic display, but I still totally rely on addons.

I know... I probably just blew a few people's minds.

Gyudan

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

I wouldn't play ESO without inventory grid view.

Heruthema

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

I'm sorry, did you say Addon support? What support? ZOS breaks most addons every time they release a major patch.

Audigy

I hate the entire concept of Addons, and I'd actually be HAPPY to see Addon support dropped!

Not using any add-ons and don't intend to do so.

The only addons that I would support are those for the basic UI, like having a bigger UI frame, FPS indicator etc.

Things which don't give the user an advantage or chance to harass others with the results of dps trackers & co.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

ZOS would release a load of pain on themselves if they disabled add-ons. The pressure would suddenly increase on them to fix their terrible, buggy user interface, and they could no longer dodge the criticism by saying "use an add-on or write one yourself". I am not talking about add-ons to show numbers, statistics or combat cues, because those are kind of interesting but mostly irrelevant to me. However, as one example among many, I cannot imagine having to re-stack my guild bank every day without the use of a script. It would require way too much time for a task that is just annoying and completely unnecessary. The removal of auto stacking in guild banks was done as a temporary fix for the duping bug in May and has never been fixed properly.

In short, I don't think disabling add-ons is a good idea. This is a numbers game to some, and they would find a way no matter what, like using hacked clients or snooping on the network traffic. Better have them use approved methods than tempting them to abuse those hacks.

kewl

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

Heruthema wrote: »

I sorry, did you say Addon support? What support? ZOS breaks most addons every time they release a major patch.

This.

Yet addon developers continue to support us, despite the frustration. Have you ever heard of deprecation ZOS?

AlnilamE

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

I would not cancel my sub, but my gaming experience would suffer a lot if I didn't have utilitarian addons such as BankManager or AwesomeGuildStore.

When the addons weren't working for a few days after an update, I felt that I was spending all my time at the bank. It was depressing...

Divinius

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

In short, I don't think disabling add-ons is a good idea. This is a numbers game to some, and they would find a way no matter what, like using hacked clients or snooping on the network traffic. Better have them use approved methods than tempting them to abuse those hacks.

Just for the record, I'm not in any way suggesting that addon support should be removed, or even that I think ZOS would ever consider it. I'm just using it as a hypothetical scenario in an attempt to determine how dependent ESO is on the availability of addons.

ers101284b14_ESO

I use (or have used) a few addons, but I wouldn't care at all if support went away.

I can do without the mini map

Reverb

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

Don't make me go back to the stupid quickslot wheel,I couldn't handle it. And when I see screenshots of people that still have the default health/magicka/stamina bars I honestly wonder how they live like that.

dharbert

I've never used addons at all, so this wouldn't affect me.

Reverb wrote: »

Don't make me go back to the stupid quickslot wheel,I couldn't handle it. And when I see screenshots of people that still have the default health/magicka/stamina bars I honestly wonder how they live like that.

Multiple VR14's, almost every armor set, and millions in gold. Zero addons. That's how we live like that

diabeticDemon18

I use (or have used) a few addons, but I wouldn't care at all if support went away.

Reverb wrote: »

Don't make me go back to the stupid quickslot wheel,I couldn't handle it. And when I see screenshots of people that still have the default health/magicka/stamina bars I honestly wonder how they live like that.

You've lived through other TES games with it, why is this one so different?

Rosveen

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

Reverb wrote: »

Don't make me go back to the stupid quickslot wheel,I couldn't handle it. And when I see screenshots of people that still have the default health/magicka/stamina bars I honestly wonder how they live like that.

I wonder why everyone uses FTC stat bars. I use selected FTC elements, but this one never made much sense to me. Is it about showing the numbers? Because default bar positions suit me just fine.

On topic: I could probably do without crafting add-ons at this point because I have almost everything researched. Sous Chef would be sorely missed though. But guild store? Inventory? No, I am not going back to vanilla UI. Before I started using add-ons, bank management with alts was such a *** chore. I simply cannot do without at least Advanced Filters and AwesomeGuildStore.

Reverb

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

Don't make me go back to the stupid quickslot wheel,I couldn't handle it. And when I see screenshots of people that still have the default health/magicka/stamina bars I honestly wonder how they live like that.

You've lived through other TES games with it, why is this one so different?

I haven't. I use mods to customize the ui and whatever else I see fit. Haven't played a vanilla TES game since Daggerfall. And I don't remember any game ever having the Q wheel. If I ever lived with that it wasn't for long.

Between console commands and mod developer kits,Bethsoft has always allowed and encouraged people to play the game as they want. This is not a Bethsoft game, and there is limited customization possibilities in a MMO, but I should not have to use the off-the-shelf ui on a TES title if I don't want to.

nine9six

I totally rely on addons for my enjoyment of the game, and would likely cancel my sub if I couldn't use them.

I use Addons for information. If they made that information available through the Vanilla UI, I wouldn't care.

If they didn't, I couldn't see how I'd play (the way I want).

Make it Togglable, if need be.

Gilvoth

I hate the entire concept of Addons, and I'd actually be HAPPY to see Addon support dropped!

if this was a single player game i would be in total agreement and ALL for add-ons just like i was an add-on freak in morrowind, but it's not, it's an mmo. add-ons dont belong here

Falmari

I use (or have used) a few addons, but I wouldn't care at all if support went away.

I really don't have a problem with addons one way or the other, if people want to use them fine if not fine.

I only use one add on that is Foundry Tactical Combat I like the bigger bars but if support for addons went it would not worry me.

But a lot of people like addons so ZeniMax would be foolish to remove support for them.

All in all I feel ZeniMax has got add on support at the right level of balance nothing that is too over powering so that player have to have them.

If I didn't spend all day at work programming I would probably write some myself

Chuggernaut

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

Bored_One wrote: »

Add-ons fill a void for me. If their support is discontinued, I hope zeni is ready to fill the gap.

Exactly this.

Sharee

I use (or have used) a few addons, but I wouldn't care at all if support went away.

The only thing i really need that default UI does not provide is feedback on whether my siege is hitting something or not. Other that that i could live without addons.

kongkim

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

Sallington wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

More than for my enjoyment - they make things functional

Yup. I don't know how people get the information they need without addons.

I mean, how do you even play not knowing how much damage your attacks are doing, or how big your heals are. Did that attack/heal crit? WHO KNOWS!?!?!
How close am I to the softcap? WHO KNOWS?!?!

Way you need to know?

kongkim

I would be upset if we couldn't use Addons anymore, but I'd still be able to enjoy playing the game.

kongkim wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

More than for my enjoyment - they make things functional

Yup. I don't know how people get the information they need without addons.

I mean, how do you even play not knowing how much damage your attacks are doing, or how big your heals are. Did that attack/heal crit? WHO KNOWS!?!?!
How close am I to the softcap? WHO KNOWS?!?!

Way you need to know? Its fun to know but not a need to know.