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ZOS!!! Let me buy a race change please! v2
Erock25
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Hey ZOS. I'm still here and still just waiting with an open wallet for you to authorize race change purchases. Take my 20$, take it! There is money on the table waiting for you to scoop up. You might as well implement this sooner rather than later because the longer you wait, the more people that are unhappy about their race choice will choose to quit instead of reroll.
I'm not saying you're a gold digger ZOS, but you aren't messing with any broke Bosmers. It's our money and we want to be Altmers or Dunmers NOW.
I'm not saying you're a gold digger ZOS, but you aren't messing with any broke Bosmers. It's our money and we want to be Altmers or Dunmers NOW.
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Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭Unfortunately, the removal of soft caps in the upcoming patches will further unbalance the racials by making races with +stat bonuses (like altmer, dunmer, imperial, and redguard if stam ever becomes any good) become even more powerful. So these races can get +200 magicka, while the entire +6% crit bonus for Khajiit is still negated by a single piece of blue-grade impenetrable armor.2 -
Jaxsun✭✭✭✭Hey ZOS. I'm still here and still just waiting with an open wallet for you to authorize race change purchases. Take my 20$, take it! There is money on the table waiting for you to scoop up. You might as well implement this sooner rather than later because the longer you wait, the more people that are unhappy about their race choice will choose to quit instead of reroll.
I'm not saying you're a gold digger ZOS, but you aren't messing with any broke Bosmers. It's our money and we want to be Altmers or Dunmers NOW.
I second this idea.0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Equipment choices, glyph choices, trait choices, and skill choices can overcome or negate any racial issues.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
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✭Equipment choices, glyph choices, trait choices, and skill choices can overcome or negate any racial issues.
their is no way to compensate imperials 12% health and 10% stamina bonus.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"1 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Equipment choices, glyph choices, trait choices, and skill choices can overcome or negate any racial issues.
Please enlighten me as to how my Khajit Sorc (tried melee builds but had to settle on the standard magicka build) can make up 260 magicka, 12 magicka regen and 4% flat bonus to damage that I would have if I was an Altmer.
I'm currently receiving a big fat zero from my Khajit racials. Don't need health regen because I got heals going. Don't need sneak bonuses because I don't sneak. Don't need physical crit either!Edited by Erock25 on October 3, 2014 7:39PMYou earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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This is simply incorrect, because each choice you make to compensate entails an opportunity cost in giving up something else.Equipment choices, glyph choices, trait choices, and skill choices can overcome or negate any racial issues.
So you add a fire resist glyph so you can match that Dunmer's fire resist? Well now you just lost a glyph slot for 14 spell damage.
So that Dunmer will either have an advantage in fire resist over you, or he will have an advantage of 14 spell damage. Pick your poison.Edited by Aeratus on October 3, 2014 7:40PM1 -
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✭I've asked for this a few times OP and you can just forget about it because this is a feature we probably won't see for a while. Either reroll or keep playing.0 -
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✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »I've asked for this a few times OP and you can just forget about it because this is a feature we probably won't see for a while. Either reroll or keep playing.
Yes I've asked for it before too and have participated in other topics about it before as well. I just don't understand why they would possibly wait. Almost everyone sees it as inevitable but I see no benefit on holding off. Make money PLUS make your customers happier? Great Job!You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Please enlighten me as to how my Khajit Sorc (tried melee builds but had to settle on the standard magicka build) can make up 260 magicka, 12 magicka regen and 4% flat bonus to damage that I would have if I was an Altmer.
I'm currently receiving a big fat zero from my Khajit racials. Don't need health regen because I got heals going. Don't need sneak bonuses because I don't sneak. Don't need physical crit either!
If you have Health Regen, then why do you have Heals going? You can do something else with your resources. Or, you can do what the rest of us have done with builds that are not working out the way you wanted them to. Respec or Reroll. I took my NB out of HA and Two Handed into MA and DW and he is doing just fine now. Before he could not survive anything.
So you add a fire resist glyph so you can match that Dunmer's fire resist? Well now you just lost a glyph slot for 14 spell damage.
So that Dunmer will either have an advantage in fire resist over you, or he will have an advantage of 14 spell damage. Pick your poison.
If you pick the fire resist glyph, then you will be alive longer to hurl more spells at them, hence you negate the extra spell damage. Poison picked.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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No, because if you pick the fire resist glyph, then he has the advantage of an additional glyph slot over you, and now he will use that glyph slot to increase his spell damage more than what your spell damage is.If you pick the fire resist glyph, then you will be alive longer to hurl more spells at them, hence you negate the extra spell damage. Poison picked.
Or he can use that additional glpyh slot to make his fire resist even higher than yours.
If this were the case, the blame lies with ZOS for failing to balance the racials, not with the players simply trying to get the most out of their characters.So the game will be populated with Dunmer, Altmer and Imperials?Edited by Aeratus on October 3, 2014 8:11PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, because if you pick the fire resist glyph, then he has the advantage of an additional glyph slot over you, and now he will use that glyph slot to increase his spell damage more than what your spell damage is.
If that is what is killing your character, then the extra spell power is not going to help you.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
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Zorrashi✭✭✭✭✭I don't know why but the OP's name sounds......familiar.
But regardless, I oppose anything that sounds like pay to win in any shape or form, even something like a race change.
You want to change race purely because of passives, passives that you claim are strong enough to make a difference in your game performance. You are also willing to pay real life cash for this change; in other words, you are willing to pay real life cash for an in-game advantage.....
I am opposed purely for the principle for which you request to have a change. Now if it were purely cosmetic on the other hand, I would say go ahead and pay the 20 bucks, more power to you for wanting to perfect the aesthetic look of your character. But for passives?3 -
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No, he's not paying for an in-game advantage. He is paying to remove an in-game disadvantage. He is not gaining any advantage over what players already have.You are also willing to pay real life cash for this change; in other words, you are willing to pay real life cash for an in-game advantage.....3 -
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✭✭I don't know why but the OP's name sounds......familiar.
But regardless, I oppose anything that sounds like pay to win in any shape or form, even something like a race change.
You want to change race purely because of passives, passives that you claim are strong enough to make a difference in your game performance. You are also willing to pay real life cash for this change; in other words, you are willing to pay real life cash for an in-game advantage.....
I am opposed purely for the principle for which you request to have a change. Now if it were purely cosmetic on the other hand, I would say go ahead and pay the 20 bucks, more power to you for wanting to perfect the aesthetic look of your character. But for passives?
The title does have (v2) in it!
I do not consider it an in game advantage or a pay2win thing when I could have easily picked the same race I want to change to at character creation all those 100s (and 100s) of hours of play time ago on the first day of early access.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭when I could have easily picked the same race I want to change to at character creation
And there is your solution. Make a new character with the race that you want.
You made the first thread requesting this on July 28th, over 2 months ago. You could have leveled a dozen characters to VR14 by now.
Edited by Nestor on October 3, 2014 8:30PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Please enlighten me as to how my Khajit Sorc (tried melee builds but had to settle on the standard magicka build) can make up 260 magicka, 12 magicka regen and 4% flat bonus to damage that I would have if I was an Altmer.
I'm currently receiving a big fat zero from my Khajit racials. Don't need health regen because I got heals going. Don't need sneak bonuses because I don't sneak. Don't need physical crit either!
If you have Health Regen, then why do you have Heals going? You can do something else with your resources. Or, you can do what the rest of us have done with builds that are not working out the way you wanted them to. Respec or Reroll. I took my NB out of HA and Two Handed into MA and DW and he is doing just fine now. Before he could not survive anything.
30% health regen is like what .... 20 hp every second? Not nearly as powerful as my heals so I will stick to them, thanks. You really can't lump together Respec and Reroll either. I don't need to respec because I have something like 270 skill points. I went from medium armor with 2h/bow to light armor with resto/destro (or resto/1h&s for pvp) no problem. Well, actually that is the problem. Since my desired play style and the reason why I chose my racial passives didn't really work out, now I'm left with complete dead weight passives that do me zero good.
I'd love to reroll but I spent a significant amount of time clearing every single quest and crafting my way to max levels all the way up until around VR5 before I realized that medium armor with 2h/bow was weak sauce in both solo PVE and group PVE compared to light armor + resto/destro. By that time I was something like 300 hours in and could not fathom rerolling another Sorc instead of leveling up some alts.
So, the passives are not worth 300 hours of my free time, but they certainly are worth 20 bucks. Hell, ZOS could put 100 dollar price tag on it, tell me they were reducing the price in 2 months, and I'd still pay up in a heartbeat.
Please read the above. Also, tell me why having this in the game would affect you at all? I love the people who answer to my race change posts because I just have to laugh at someone trying to argue their way into why someone should be punished for a decision they made on the first hour of early access.Edited by Erock25 on October 3, 2014 8:31PMYou earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Spectrasoul✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
Absolutely this. Still didn't make a difference to me picking Bosmer, I've always been Bosmer in every ES game. It would be nice if the racials were less focused on combat stats and maybe on professions or something instead.0 -
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You have played a character you don't like for approximately 180 hours (60 days/3 hours a day) since the last time you made this thread. That sounds like a waste of time to me.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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No, not even close to 20 hp every second.
Please enlighten me as to how my Khajit Sorc (tried melee builds but had to settle on the standard magicka build) can make up 260 magicka, 12 magicka regen and 4% flat bonus to damage that I would have if I was an Altmer.
I'm currently receiving a big fat zero from my Khajit racials. Don't need health regen because I got heals going. Don't need sneak bonuses because I don't sneak. Don't need physical crit either!
If you have Health Regen, then why do you have Heals going? You can do something else with your resources. Or, you can do what the rest of us have done with builds that are not working out the way you wanted them to. Respec or Reroll. I took my NB out of HA and Two Handed into MA and DW and he is doing just fine now. Before he could not survive anything.
30% health regen is like what .... 20 hp every second? Not nearly as powerful as my heals so I will stick to them, thanks. You really can't lump together Respec and Reroll either. I don't need to respec because I have something like 270 skill points. I went from medium armor with 2h/bow to light armor with resto/destro (or resto/1h&s for pvp) no problem. Well, actually that is the problem. Since my desired play style and the reason why I chose my racial passives didn't really work out, now I'm left with complete dead weight passives that do me zero good.
I'd love to reroll but I spent a significant amount of time clearing every single quest and crafting my way to max levels all the way up until around VR5 before I realized that medium armor with 2h/bow was weak sauce in both solo PVE and group PVE compared to light armor + resto/destro. By that time I was something like 300 hours in and could not fathom rerolling another Sorc instead of leveling up some alts.
The racial is +35% health regen. Your base health regen is 30 hp per 2 seconds. So with the +35%, you get +11 hp per 2 seconds (or 5.5 hp every second).
This amount is so small it is essentially useless.
(Edited because the math was incorrect earlier).Edited by Aeratus on October 3, 2014 8:38PM1 -
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Who said I didn't like my character? I love my Sorc and I love this game. Doesn't change the fact that I'd throw money at ZOS in a heartbeat to change my race. I've also leveled up a DK and Templar in that time that I am very glad I have instead of rolling another Sorc.
Again, please tell me your reason for why you are opposed to this. Most respond with something along the lines of choices should matter like we're not playing a game here for entertainment purposes. I become a happier customer, ZOS gets more money, you don't notice a single smidge of difference in your game. Win/win/win.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Surfinginhawaii✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Either reroll or keep playing.
I just keep playing and hoping that one day this will be done.0 -
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I just saw this part of your post after the edit and no, you are wrong. I could have leveled a DK from the mid 30s to VR12 and a Templar from 0 to VR10 and I could have brought my Sorc to VR14 and PVP alliance rank major bad ass with basically every achievement possible and that is exactly what I did.Surfinginhawaii wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Either reroll or keep playing.
I just keep playing and hoping that one day this will be done.
Yep same boat here. I just assumed that ZOS would want my cash monies now rather than later.Edited by Erock25 on October 3, 2014 9:05PMYou earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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brandon✭✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »I've asked for this a few times OP and you can just forget about it because this is a feature we probably won't see for a while. Either reroll or keep playing.
Yes I've asked for it before too and have participated in other topics about it before as well. I just don't understand why they would possibly wait. Almost everyone sees it as inevitable but I see no benefit on holding off. Make money PLUS make your customers happier? Great Job!
You seem to think that most people would be happy with a race change. Show me proof that most of their customers want this? I certainly don't want this.3 -
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✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »I've asked for this a few times OP and you can just forget about it because this is a feature we probably won't see for a while. Either reroll or keep playing.
Yes I've asked for it before too and have participated in other topics about it before as well. I just don't understand why they would possibly wait. Almost everyone sees it as inevitable but I see no benefit on holding off. Make money PLUS make your customers happier? Great Job!
You seem to think that most people would be happy with a race change. Show me proof that most of their customers want this? I certainly don't want this.
Even if you yourself have no reason to use it, why would you not want it around? More money for ZOS right? More people, who DO want to change their race happy about it so they stick around longer, so more people to play with (giggity) right?You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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