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Night's Silence broken after patch?

  • Janduin
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    Assuming the unprecedented and illogical nerf to a specific set bonus stacking with Vamp passive holds...

    Does the Vamp passive + Concealed weapon make you at least the fastest speed in stealth? Faster than a non-vamp with set? IMO vampire SHOULD be able to achieve the fastest speeds as they are supernatural and suffer many balancing limitations.

    I have not purchased the passive on my Vamp NB yet and wondering if it is worth it.

    If someone has or can breakdown the numbers... ZOS info is lacking.

    EDIT: MY Night's Silence is also broken, along with Concealed Weapons. No increase in stealth speed from either.
    Edited by Janduin on September 17, 2014 12:42AM
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  • Samadhi
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    Janduin wrote: »
    Assuming the unprecedented and illogical nerf to a specific set bonus stacking with Vamp passive holds...

    Does the Vamp passive + Concealed weapon make you at least the fastest speed in stealth? Faster than a non-vamp with set? IMO vampire SHOULD be able to achieve the fastest speeds as they are supernatural and suffer many balancing limitations.
    ...

    When Night's Silence is fixed the following will all have the same speed:
    Vampire + Concealed Weapon
    Night's Silence + Concealed Weapon
    Shadow Dancer's Raiment + Concealed Weapon
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  • Canapaio
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    I think if you continue at this pace, there is no one to play eso, not even free to play, not even if they pay us
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  • Zhoyzu
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    Thanks for the report, @GhostwalkerLD. We've passed this along.

    Is anyone else experiencing this?

    yea everyone else on top of none of the other effects working.

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  • Tendeep
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    Thanks for the report, @GhostwalkerLD. We've passed this along.

    Is anyone else experiencing this?

    Yes, concealed weapon NB skill not giving the 25% speed increase, and I am not a vamp, nor wearing gear.
  • rwross
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    Hey guys, we looked into this earlier and Night's Silence is not currently working properly. We're working on a fix, and will let you know when we plan to roll it out.

    In general, how long does this take. My guess is that the fix is relatively minor, but will it have to wait until bundled into a lot of other fixes or is this something we can expect to see in the next day or so?

    Personally, I was blissfully unaware of all the stacking issues as the NS set adjustment was sufficient for my NB needs. However, after a month of developing a certain timing for my NB's 2 sec invis based on agro radius + speed for crouch, I can tell you that this bug makes it extremely difficult to play at this point.

    So, a lot of complaining from me wrapped around a creamy center of:
    1. When can we expect this fixed (this week??)
    2. What exactly will be fixed & how. For example you guys could try and tackle a stickier "what stacks" issue or you could just let everything stack but impose a 0 sneak penalty hard cap.

    I don't expect to have much, read, "any," influence on #2 so if you can shed any light on #1 in the mean time that would be great.

    Thanks!
    Edited by rwross on September 17, 2014 2:55PM
  • rwross
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    Is this the active thread for this issue or is there another one?
  • Dekkameron
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    rwross wrote: »
    Is this the active thread for this issue or is there another one?

    I think this is the main thread for it. Although there are others.

    and i would just like to say my non-vamp with nights silence is also buggy.
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  • rwross
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    Any feedback from Devs as to what they are planning to fix and when?
  • MornaBaine
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    rwross wrote: »
    Any feedback from Devs as to what they are planning to fix and when?

    Nope. Probably because they already know a lot of us are going to still be extremely ticked off when we find out what they are going to do. Or, more accurately, what they are NOT going to do.
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  • jelliedsoup
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    What is really funny is I saw a vamp racing along at pre 1.4.3 speeds. Great huh?
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Atarax
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    For those of you upset that night's silence was nerfed, or those who are still under the (mistaken) impression that it was OP, you are welcome to join this thread:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/132089/feedback-suggestion-not-a-petition-please-reinstate-nights-silence-dark-stalker-stacking?new=1
    50 Bosmer Nightblade
    50 Breton Sorcerer
    50 Dunmer Dragonknight
    50 Imperial Templar
    50 Khajit Nightblade
    50 Imperial Dragonknight
    50 Altmer Sorcerer
    50 Argonian Templar

    Discussions of Interest:
    Class Balance in 1.6
    Quest Choices
    Request to Reinstate Night's Silence and Dark Stalker stacking
  • rwross
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    ZOS_Gina -- Any news on whether this is about to be fixed?
  • Psiion
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    Greetings all,

    Due to the age of this thread, and the fact it contains fairly outdated information, we have gone ahead and closed it down. If anyone would still like to discuss this topic, please feel free to create a new thread with current information to do so.
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