Would you like to see ingame Inspect option Introduced?
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).I would like to see more Chicken Bacon Ranch in this game1 -
Pele✭✭✭✭✭I would not mind an inspection feature as long as there is also an option to disable it for those who do not wish to be inspected.1 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).No, it'd just be (ab)used by the l33t-crowd to keep People out of groups1 -
istateres✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).As if they don't have enough other more important things to do / fix.0 -
Surragard✭✭✭✭Yes! Introduce an ingame inspect option which will show what items are currently equipped by a player, achievement progress but not skills build always(even if the selected player is not a friend).MercyKilling wrote: »Oh look, honey. THIS thread again.
Doesn't matter how many times it gets posted or reworded....no.
Edit:If people are going to be elitist in the game and block you from their group they will do it without this feature.
Then why is it "needed"? Why even bother with it? No, it's just an excuse.
Eh, I dunno, I don't consider myself an elitist. It would be nice to have the option to check somebody out w/ their consent who has a really awesome set of gear or weapons or something.
I'm pretty sure that's the original reason inspecting was introduced in the first place.
Agreed.I don't always drink Skooma, but when I do I go to the Southwall Corner Club. May you walk on warm sands my friends.1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Hmm, not a biased POLL then with 4 yes and only 1 no answer options....lol
I'm asking for your opinion.
I'm not sure if such an option should be introduced.
It was useful in other MMOs but I agree it has some disadvantages.
Furthermore, the majority is always right, so if you're against it for whatever reason, you are more than welcome to state your reason.
I opened this poll in order to reflect the different opinions.(Yes or No).
on what planet is the majority always right? lolDear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Reivax✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
on what planet is the majority always right? lol
Earth.
Maybe others. But I can't speak with authority on that.
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Ulvik✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Seeing other peoples achievements and a short "About me" would be cool. But not in the style of an inspect button. Would be much cooler to be able to have a book or a crystal, which contains up to date info, you can hand out.1 -
Probitas✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).You would never know the bonuses, skills, strengths or weaknesses of any random bloke you walked up to in real life, and pvp should not allow this either. It's a crutch used by min/maxers to develop the 'best' offense/defense. Inspecting has always been used this way to attempt and find weaknesses without actual combat before the risk is taken.
If you don't have the nuts to start a fight with someone that could take your head off, don't step up to the plate.Edited by Probitas on August 24, 2014 3:03AM3 -
GnatB✭✭✭✭F. Equipment only. No achievements, no skills, no nothing other than equipment. Doesn't matter if the person is a friend.
Players don't answer whispers about what that cool armor is. Especially since there isn't any ping or something when they get a whisper. And in reality, you'd be able to identify it in a marketplace visually or by asking about it, so there's no reason why people shouldn't be able to learn what it's called for when they want to buy it themselves.
There is no compelling reason whatsoever to allow inspecting to show achievements/skills.Achievements Suck1 -
MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
on what planet is the majority always right? lol
Earth.
Maybe others. But I can't speak with authority on that.
Really? For the longest time, the majority thought the planet was flat and that the sun revolved around the Earth.I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.0 -
Melian✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).It would be the final nail in the coffin of "play how you want". Let us be judged by how well we make our builds actually work, not how well people assume they will work.0
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Probitas✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).
I respectfully disagree. If you want to know something, have the courage to ask. Some people may answer. If they prefer NOT to answer, that is their right. People playing this game do not owe other population members any answers on their characters make-up. This is something that has to be stopped before a slow creep begins.F. Equipment only. No achievements, no skills, no nothing other than equipment. Doesn't matter if the person is a friend.
Players don't answer whispers about what that cool armor is. Especially since there isn't any ping or something when they get a whisper. And in reality, you'd be able to identify it in a marketplace visually or by asking about it, so there's no reason why people shouldn't be able to learn what it's called for when they want to buy it themselves.
There is no compelling reason whatsoever to allow inspecting to show achievements/skills.1 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes! Introduce an ingame inspect option which will show what items are currently equipped by a player, achievement progress, skills build etc always(even if the selected player is not a friend).Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?2 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because I have the feeling that players like you would decide some builds are "sub-optimal" without seeing them in action.
Do you want to play spreadsheets? Or do you want to play a real game?----
Murray?1 -
GnatB✭✭✭✭I respectfully disagree. If you want to know something, have the courage to ask. Some people may answer. If they prefer NOT to answer, that is their right. People playing this game do not owe other population members any answers on their characters make-up.
Except in reality you'd know. Inspect is merely to make up for the shortcomings of the graphics engine/marketplace.
Achievements Suck1 -
Probitas✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).I respectfully disagree. If you want to know something, have the courage to ask. Some people may answer. If they prefer NOT to answer, that is their right. People playing this game do not owe other population members any answers on their characters make-up.
Except in reality you'd know. Inspect is merely to make up for the shortcomings of the graphics engine/marketplace.
Really, you know how to spot a true to life Versace from a knock off at a glance? I don't. You must be some kind of fashion geek.1 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes! Introduce an ingame inspect option which will show what items are currently equipped by a player, achievement progress, skills build etc always(even if the selected player is not a friend).
I think it's naive to not use all available tools to win in a competitive game.nerevarine1138 wrote: »Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because I have the feeling that players like you would decide some builds are "sub-optimal" without seeing them in action.
Do you want to play spreadsheets? Or do you want to play a real game?1 -
Probitas✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because this is an MMO, and you can't always expect perfection from other players, and how would other players ever get better if the first time they fail is the only time people do anything with them? This falls smack into the realm of gamer elitism. Too good to play with anyone other than someone equally good, and too damn arrogant to take the time to teach.
When I was in LOTRO, I had someone show me the better ways to do my character, and pretty soon I was being asked to join on raids and such, because I had learned the subtle things.
Man this game has some arrogant folk in it if they can't be bothered to be sociable with other players, but want them to be in mint condition right out of the box. Some people must have been born with mice in their pants and keyboards for teeth to be so damn lucky to be so good.0 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes! Introduce an ingame inspect option which will show what items are currently equipped by a player, achievement progress, skills build etc always(even if the selected player is not a friend).
Why is it my job to teach people how to play? Is your time more valuable than mine?Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because this is an MMO, and you can't always expect perfection from other players, and how would other players ever get better if the first time they fail is the only time people do anything with them? This falls smack into the realm of gamer elitism. Too good to play with anyone other than someone equally good, and too damn arrogant to take the time to teach.
When I was in LOTRO, I had someone show me the better ways to do my character, and pretty soon I was being asked to join on raids and such, because I had learned the subtle things.
Man this game has some arrogant folk in it if they can't be bothered to be sociable with other players, but want them to be in mint condition right out of the box. Some people must have been born with mice in their pants and keyboards for teeth to be so damn lucky to be so good.
The information to teach yourself to be better is out on the internet for free. That's how I learn how to play new MMOs, to learn what builds are good and to learn the finer mechanics of the game (animation canceling, etc.).Edited by Maverick827 on August 24, 2014 4:21AM0 -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Maverick827 wrote: »
I think it's naive to not use all available tools to win in a competitive game.nerevarine1138 wrote: »Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because I have the feeling that players like you would decide some builds are "sub-optimal" without seeing them in action.
Do you want to play spreadsheets? Or do you want to play a real game?
I wasn't aware that I was in competition with you. Nor was I aware that you could tell me my value in a group by looking at my equipped items. Probably because we aren't and you can't.----
Murray?0 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes! Introduce an ingame inspect option which will show what items are currently equipped by a player, achievement progress, skills build etc always(even if the selected player is not a friend).
Trial teams are in competition with each other. Factions are in competition with each other.nerevarine1138 wrote: »Maverick827 wrote: »
I think it's naive to not use all available tools to win in a competitive game.nerevarine1138 wrote: »Maverick827 wrote: »Why is it more wrong to refuse someone from your group because of their gear/build ("elitist") than to waste someone's time under-performing in their group with a build/gear set up that is not optimal?
Because I have the feeling that players like you would decide some builds are "sub-optimal" without seeing them in action.
Do you want to play spreadsheets? Or do you want to play a real game?
I wasn't aware that I was in competition with you. Nor was I aware that you could tell me my value in a group by looking at my equipped items. Probably because we aren't and you can't.
I can definitely tell you your value in my group by inspecting you. I can already do it now, to some extent. If you're a DPS wearing heavy armor, then you're already much worse than a DPS wearing light or medium. If my group is trying for any sort of timed run, then you would be a liability.0 -
No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).the only thing you can do with a forced inspection is act with prejudice. jerks will screen for what they think is the ideal builds even if its just based on what's popular(which is not always the best); this is not a good thing.
try being friendly and talking about builds, people will share if your not an arrogant judgemental person trying to impose what you think is best. I saw an in chat argument where A was trying to force B to share B's build under under the pretence that it was irrelevant because A's build was better, regardless of what it could be, and sharing would help him prove it. well needless to say he was told to shove off. I see no reason to give these types of players any ground to force anything on anyone
looking at two builds on paper prove nothing, one really needs to playtest both to see how it all works out; that is what a lot of forum whining ends up being, people complaining about something they have no experience with other than dying to: they don't appreciate the downsides and only see the plus because they have no actual experience. ..0 -
Probitas✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Well said dylan....snobs will be snobs, eventually no one plays with them much except other snobs.0
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pinstripesc✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).Personally I haven't had an issue with it, but I've seen in the past a lot of trouble with people abusing this (always people ruining our nice things). Especially if the champion system is going to bring a 'gear score' kinda deal into the game, it sucks when people kick others out of groups just cuz they inspected them and didn't feel like giving them a chance.
And it comes down to being a communication issue - if you just ask the person to show you their gear, and it's not up to par, at least you can say "hey, we're actually looking for someone with a little higher quality gear", rather than them being removed and not told why.Edited by pinstripesc on August 24, 2014 4:58AM0 -
Vahrokh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).No.
Because the game flaunts the "play how you want" and goes so far to disable sharing DPS meters to make sure of that.
No
Because the "inspect gear and achievements" is the typical tool used by terribles to check randoms and deny them group because (being terrible) they fear adding another terrible in the team, then they'd actually have to play well to do the task and this cannot happen.
No
Because in a game with an handful of usable sets, only an idiot can't visually recognize which gear somebody else is wearing.
No
Because if asked I can link my Aether gear by myself.
No
Because an endgame guild officer will look more at your application content and mindset than at what you wear. A 1000 DPS idiot is just that, an idiot. A 800 DPS competent guy who knows to time his ultimates, has teamwork mentality etc. etc. is immediately visible the first day.
No
Because an endgame guild officer can see you have Aether hat. If he doesn't, he's a "Grotto" guild officer.
No
Because I have seen in WoW and SWTOR what this causes: terribads who deny groups based on that (and if you disable it, it's auto-deny).
In SWTOR I only played PvP, could not get invites to PvE because I did not have their precious achievements or their precious purples.
Guess what, I ended tanking and DPSing for a guild who did not care for the "labels" and I could do 16 men content while sleeping. Because a good PVPer doing PvE >>>>>>>>>> PvE primadonnas "achievement" Little Labels Of Self Entitlement.Edited by Vahrokh on August 24, 2014 6:08AMVaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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Fruitmass✭✭✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).If people could handle it in a way that wouldn't alienate others I wouldn't mind inspections. Sadly, it's a feature that's just too easily abused.
There's only one real reason to have inspections and that's for gear checking. In all fairness, if optimization is that paramount for you when grouping, then you really should organize that through a static group or guild. That can be done easily enough without the use of an inspection feature.Beware all ye who log on for here there be typos...0 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No! Don't Introduce an ingame inspect option.(please explain).No thank you, we don't need any of that traditional MMO elitism going on in this game, thanks. (Even more so anyway.)
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