Low FPS on Laptop

wilsonwjesse

I have a new MSI GP60 Leopard-010 Gaming Laptop.

Should I be able to play ESO on "ultra" video settings with max view distance and still have 50+ frames per second? If not, why not?

Here are the specs:

15.6" Full HD

2GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 840M GDDR3

Intel® 4th Generation Core™ i5-4200H, 2.8 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.4GHz), 3MB Smart Cache

Windows 8.1, 64 bit

Chipset Mobile Intel® HM87

8GB DDR3L/1600MHz System Memory (2 x 4GB) - 2 Memory Slots

750GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive

Paske

No, because hardware is not strong enough for Ultra and 50+ FPS.

You should be able to get 25+ on Ultra though.

wilsonwjesse

Thanks for responding. Is it the graphics card? what do you mean by "hardware?"
I'm getting 13-24 on ultra high. Usually 17.

NaturesCorruption

With most hardware, aka the silicon cards and chips inside your machine, the numbers (840m or 4200H) dictate many things. I would say your video card (840m) is what is causing your system to come to a crawl on ESO.

Lets take the 840m Nvidia as an example.
For 8XX, the 8 stands for the series, or generation. The higher this number is the better across the board, newer technologies and such.
For X4X, the 4 stands for the performance rating. between 0 and 8 (sometimes 9), 4 is pretty low on the scale and as such will not run newer games on higher settings/resolutions as well.

Compare that to my 680m. My card is two generations older, but the output the card can do with what it has is so much higher.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-680M-vs-GeForce-840m compares the two cards pretty well, you can use that website to gauge other cards too.

Nazon_Katts

As a rule of thumb, when in doubt always go for the higher second lasts numbers. Even my trusty old 570M is better. But then, up to the 800 series, almost all releases were just rebrands and marketing and no real step up in technology.

Gonna be different with the next gen of cards, however, so the above rule may not work anymore.

EDIT: don't have the newer MSI's (have an older one myself and love it) upgradable video slots?

NaturesCorruption

I think they do, I myself am running an Alienware M17x R4, loving that 120hz 3D Screen.

I don't use the 3D part in the newer games on account of the FPS being halved to do 3D, but running the game at an actual 75 FPS eliminates alot of jitter I see.

The overclock on my 680m is pretty immense, 718mhz Core to 950mhz Core, and 1800mhz VRam to 2400mhz Vram. My little 680m is pushing up there with a 780m.

ESO runs at 75+FPS everywhere except towns (40-60) and Cyrodiil while in combat (20-40 worst case). Then again its the poor CPU optimizations that affect my fps more than GPU being run hard.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

Having a 12-thread 64-bit Intel Xeon CPU and a high end Nvidia GPU, I am being limited to around 30 FPS almost regardless of graphics quality, apparently because one CPU thread is hitting 100%. The loading screens show 12 threads active with a good balancing, but once the graphics engine starts and I'm in the game world, one CPU thread is seriously overloaded and the other 11 are more or less idle. In fact, four seem to be completely idle.

Anyone else seeing this problem? Xeon CPUs are overpriced and not terribly good with 32-bit code, so they are not a popular choice among gamers, but this is my best 3D machine by far, and I am surprised it doesn't perform better with ESO.

Gillysan

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

Having a 12-thread 64-bit Intel Xeon CPU and a high end Nvidia GPU, I am being limited to around 30 FPS almost regardless of graphics quality, apparently because one CPU thread is hitting 100%. The loading screens show 12 threads active with a good balancing, but once the graphics engine starts and I'm in the game world, one CPU thread is seriously overloaded and the other 11 are more or less idle. In fact, four seem to be completely idle.

Anyone else seeing this problem? Xeon CPUs are overpriced and not terribly good with 32-bit code, so they are not a popular choice among gamers, but this is my best 3D machine by far, and I am surprised it doesn't perform better with ESO.

Players have been noting this for awhile. Eventually? Let's hope.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

I know people have been reporting a pinned core for some time, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen Xeon cores being particularly bad for ESO. I get the same speed from an old and weak CPU from AMD in another computer.

Daethz

800m series is a rebadge of 700m series.
Anything Nvidia with a 4 as its second digit is low end.

ESO can only utalize two cpu cores.
So if a older cpu has less cores, but two stronger cores, you could actually get better performance on a older cpu.