So is porting to a camp behind a closed gate bannable?

Lowbei

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

...so you zerg, you just stay around the edges instead of the middle...

lol k

i couldnt help but noticed you gave up on finding a quote, i dont blame you

thanks for the ap

So you fight on the fringes of zergs and farm ap too, yet somehow this is different? Lol. If that makes you feel superior, more power to you,

no, i dont fight anywhere near zergs. you should really stop making things up, people are starting (lol) to not take you seriously.

Nala_

Columba wrote: »

Well, I don't have a video, lol. Yes I saw player a on one side of the gate, approach the gate, then poof player a is on the other side of the gate. Btw it wasn't his home gate:)

theres only one way to exploit past the ghartok gate, and what you just described proves that you didnt see anyone glitch through it.

tip:you should actually know how it is people get through before you try to say you saw someone do it.

Huntler

Nala_ wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Well, I don't have a video, lol. Yes I saw player a on one side of the gate, approach the gate, then poof player a is on the other side of the gate. Btw it wasn't his home gate:)

theres only one way to exploit past the ghartok gate, and what you just described proves that you didnt see anyone glitch through it.

tip:you should actually know how it is people get through before you try to say you saw someone do it.

Columba

Nala_ wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Well, I don't have a video, lol. Yes I saw player a on one side of the gate, approach the gate, then poof player a is on the other side of the gate. Btw it wasn't his home gate:)

theres only one way to exploit past the ghartok gate, and what you just described proves that you didnt see anyone glitch through it.

tip:you should actually know how it is people get through before you try to say you saw someone do it.

One way YOU KNOW OF.

Columba

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

...so you zerg, you just stay around the edges instead of the middle...

lol k

i couldnt help but noticed you gave up on finding a quote, i dont blame you

thanks for the ap

So you fight on the fringes of zergs and farm ap too, yet somehow this is different? Lol. If that makes you feel superior, more power to you,

no, i dont fight anywhere near zergs. you should really stop making things up, people are starting (lol) to not take you seriously.

So you farm zergs without being anywhere near them, lol

Skafsgaard

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

...so you zerg, you just stay around the edges instead of the middle...

lol k

i couldnt help but noticed you gave up on finding a quote, i dont blame you

thanks for the ap

So you fight on the fringes of zergs and farm ap too, yet somehow this is different? Lol. If that makes you feel superior, more power to you,

no, i dont fight anywhere near zergs. you should really stop making things up, people are starting (lol) to not take you seriously.

So you farm zergs without being anywhere near them, lol

Note the difference between fighting and farming - requires entirely different skill bars as well.

Nala_

Columba wrote: »

One way YOU KNOW OF.

no, one way to exploit past the gate, that half the game knows how to do, that is so easy it takes a few seconds. so these people decided to invent a completely new way to magically poof through it when they already knew of another way, then decided to do it RIGHT in front of you, and you were somehow right outside the gate watching them do it (but you didnt take a camp up there to get there because you said thats a bannable offense) even know the entire right side of the map was red and youre AD, so you must have run all the way up there on your mount just in time to see them glitch through (even know theres a camp up there so why are they glitching through in the first place)?

but yeah youre right, im sure that all happened instead of you just making it up you saw them poof through the gate.

Kewljag_66_ESO

Now is this an exploit?

The Scroll gate is opened. So a player logs off of his main and logs onto his secondary character. He gets threw the gate, he then goes to a remote corner away from the action and logs off and gets back on his main. An hour later the gate closes. He waits 4 hours and logs back onto his secondary which is still in the spot behind the gate he logged off and drops a forward camp. Is this an exploit? He followed all the rules of the game.

Lowbei

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

...so you zerg, you just stay around the edges instead of the middle...

lol k

i couldnt help but noticed you gave up on finding a quote, i dont blame you

thanks for the ap

So you fight on the fringes of zergs and farm ap too, yet somehow this is different? Lol. If that makes you feel superior, more power to you,

no, i dont fight anywhere near zergs. you should really stop making things up, people are starting (lol) to not take you seriously.

So you farm zergs without being anywhere near them, lol

ahh i see where your confusion comes from, again (this happens to you a lot it seems), in that you think we are similar because we both hang near zergs.

the difference is that you hang around friendly zergs and get farmed, whereas i hang around enemy zergs and farm them.

glad i could clear that up for you

Columba

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

...so you zerg, you just stay around the edges instead of the middle...

lol k

i couldnt help but noticed you gave up on finding a quote, i dont blame you

thanks for the ap

So you fight on the fringes of zergs and farm ap too, yet somehow this is different? Lol. If that makes you feel superior, more power to you,

no, i dont fight anywhere near zergs. you should really stop making things up, people are starting (lol) to not take you seriously.

So you farm zergs without being anywhere near them, lol

ahh i see where your confusion comes from, again (this happens to you a lot it seems), in that you think we are similar because we both hang near zergs.

the difference is that you hang around friendly zergs and get farmed, whereas i hang around enemy zergs and farm them.

glad i could clear that up for you

I never specified friendly only. Secondly, zergs tend to coelesce so it's tough to have only one side of the Zerg in any one place. Burst keeps and scouting usually drive zergs together.

Lowbei

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

well thats funny since you were clearly talking about your friendly zerg where you "operate" because you "hate charging in with the pack" and you even admit to zergballing.

are you a comedian irl? you make me laugh a lot

Ifthir_ESO

ZOS_AlexD wrote: »

Hello everyone. If there's ever a question as to what you believe to be permissible or not in-game, you can report the incident or the players in question and we will investigate each report fully and take the appropriate actions.

So you basically police these forums better than you police the PvP players exploiting the system and griefing paying customers?

@ZOS_AlexD‌

Maybe its time your management reconsidered their process.

Lowbei

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_AlexD wrote: »

Hello everyone. If there's ever a question as to what you believe to be permissible or not in-game, you can report the incident or the players in question and we will investigate each report fully and take the appropriate actions.

So you basically police these forums better than you police the PvP players exploiting the system and griefing paying customers?

@ZOS_AlexD‌

Maybe its time your management reconsidered their process.

do not discuss their management or they will suspend you from the forum.

Rylana

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Now is this an exploit?

The Scroll gate is opened. So a player logs off of his main and logs onto his secondary character. He gets threw the gate, he then goes to a remote corner away from the action and logs off and gets back on his main. An hour later the gate closes. He waits 4 hours and logs back onto his secondary which is still in the spot behind the gate he logged off and drops a forward camp. Is this an exploit? He followed all the rules of the game.

Camps are not supposed to function behind a gate. Those few areas that seem they still work on, should be addressed by Development, as anywhere else in the temple areas you cannot drop one.

Additionally, from what I read on dev responses weeks back, as soon as that player logs back in behind the closed gate he is either supposed to be:

A. Killed instantly by something akin to Imperial Law (the one they talked about)
B. Transported automatically back to spawn. (the one I believe they actually implemented)

If this is no longer the case, then it is indeed an exploit as there were designed features put into place that seem to not be functioning as intended and being abused.

An open gate is considered open season, however.

Also

/thread

Columba

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

well thats funny since you were clearly talking about your friendly zerg where you "operate" because you "hate charging in with the pack" and you even admit to zergballing.

are you a comedian irl? you make me laugh a lot

See my comments on how zergs tend to collide. It's akin to the law of gravity.

Lowbei

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

well thats funny since you were clearly talking about your friendly zerg where you "operate" because you "hate charging in with the pack" and you even admit to zergballing.

are you a comedian irl? you make me laugh a lot

See my comments on how zergs tend to collide. It's akin to the law of gravity.

the way zergs move/collide has nothing to do with this discussion, and nobody is talking about it other than you.

you claimed we were similar, i proved this to be incorrect on so many levels.

thanks for playing

ZOS_BrianWheeler

A forward camp deployed behind an Elder Scroll Gate is not an exploit if it isn't deployed in a starter area. A forward camp deployed in a starter location such as Northern Highrock Gate or Eastern Elswyr Gate however is something our CS agents are looking at and actioning as they occur as enemy alliance players should not be in those locations.

Nala_

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

A forward camp deployed behind an Elder Scroll Gate is not an exploit if it isn't deployed in a starter area. A forward camp deployed in a starter location such as Northern Highrock Gate or Eastern Elswyr Gate however is something our CS agents are looking at and actioning as they occur as enemy alliance players should not be in those locations.

thank you for answering the OPs question, (even know the OP lied and said that a GM in zone chat told multiple people it was a bannable offense to even TAKE the spawn at one of these camps.)

is it possible we could get a ban to the OP's forum account for his propaganda? ty

Lowbei

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

A forward camp deployed behind an Elder Scroll Gate is not an exploit if it isn't deployed in a starter area. A forward camp deployed in a starter location such as Northern Highrock Gate or Eastern Elswyr Gate however is something our CS agents are looking at and actioning as they occur as enemy alliance players should not be in those locations.

thanks for the update!

guess that answers the thread

gg

Nala_

Columba wrote: »

Hmm a GM in zone told a few players it was bannable. Can we get an answer on this?

inb4 he tries to claim he wasnt lying and meant his guildmaster said it

Lowbei

i dont think anyone takes anything he says seriously ever since he claimed that the zergballs were bots.

or maybe it was when he claimed that the ep emperor was botting.

or maybe it was when he claimed people were "hacking" to do common things.

i dunno

Columba

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

A forward camp deployed behind an Elder Scroll Gate is not an exploit if it isn't deployed in a starter area. A forward camp deployed in a starter location such as Northern Highrock Gate or Eastern Elswyr Gate however is something our CS agents are looking at and actioning as they occur as enemy alliance players should not be in those locations.

Ok, great. that answered the question. Apparently there are multiple ways to glitch behind closed gates. Can you let us know if your team is working on fixing that too? Thanks.

Lowbei

they are working on fixing all issues related to the forward camps/gates/safe areas, and they probably dont want you bugging them every 5 minutes for clarification because you are upset that their answer wasnt as detailed as you wanted.

get over it

Columba

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

well thats funny since you were clearly talking about your friendly zerg where you "operate" because you "hate charging in with the pack" and you even admit to zergballing.

are you a comedian irl? you make me laugh a lot

See my comments on how zergs tend to collide. It's akin to the law of gravity.

the way zergs move/collide has nothing to do with this discussion, and nobody is talking about it other than you.

you claimed we were similar, i proved this to be incorrect on so many levels.

thanks for playing

ok, so how exactly do you farm zergs in a way to ensure that the Zerg on your side is no where to be found? I assume that to remain pure, you stop attacking the enemy once your Zerg happens to show up.

Columba

Lowbei wrote: »

they are working on fixing all issues related to the forward camps/gates/safe areas, and they probably dont want you bugging them every 5 minutes for clarification because you are upset that their answer wasnt as detailed as you wanted.

get over it

Thank you for playing moderator, lol

Lowbei

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

i see you couldnt find a quote of me "complaining about zergs" lol

and btw, zergers with ambition constantly send me asking about builds and group setups so they can break away from the bads. i gladly help them, as the more smallmans, the better the skill level and thus the better the competition is.

you do get that we are ultimately here for competition, not ap, right? by creating more smallmans, we create future competition, especially when arenas arrive.

its ok tho if you only want to zerg, somebodys gotta donate ap to us

I prefer small groups operating on the fringes of zergs, actually. I hate charging in with the pack. So I guess we agree! I don't despise those who ball up, and I do it periodically when the situation warrents it.

well thats funny since you were clearly talking about your friendly zerg where you "operate" because you "hate charging in with the pack" and you even admit to zergballing.

are you a comedian irl? you make me laugh a lot

See my comments on how zergs tend to collide. It's akin to the law of gravity.

the way zergs move/collide has nothing to do with this discussion, and nobody is talking about it other than you.

you claimed we were similar, i proved this to be incorrect on so many levels.

thanks for playing

ok, so how exactly do you farm zergs in a way to ensure that the Zerg on your side is no where to be found? I assume that to remain pure, you stop attacking the enemy once your Zerg happens to show up.

great question!

the answer is that we are never around the friendly zerg. we know where the enemy zerg is, so we stalk them, resulting in a quick 60 second bomb and a pile of dead bodies.

if the friendly zerg is heading that way, it just means we need to hurry up and take our aps before "unfavorables" show up.

Columba

So a friendly Zerg shows up, and you display good sportsman ship to leave the area? Bravo!

Lowbei

no, typically there is nothing left to kill when they show up.

but yeah, we always leave the area if a friendly zerg shows up. nobody wants to be around zergers

Columba

Except zergers...and ap hungry predators. So you typically wipe the Zerg before the friendly zergers show up, or the enemy Zerg runs away? I must say, I find this fascinating.

Lowbei

zergs dont run away, and if you find zerg farming fascinating, then you should study our videos.

either way, i still wont sign your mousepad.