Good Game Behavior

Soloeus

Also this isn't about profanity filters. A lot of nice people swear and a lot of troll jerks and bullies don't swear at all.

AlexDougherty

Soloeus wrote: »

Also this isn't about profanity filters. A lot of nice people swear and a lot of troll jerks and bullies don't swear at all.

That's true, near Liverpool (I live just over the mersey) swearing is often used as a form of emphasis rather than profanity. It done so often that quite a few people don't even realise they've sworn.

And people can rip someone to shreds without ever swearing, you can use so vcalled polite language in a most impolite way, without even trying.

Falmer

With all the benefits the internet brings, it also has a downside of sometimes forcing interactions with people who you normally wouldn't interact.

Just use the ignore function. You are never going to change someone's immature nature by pleading for them to do so. All you can do is ignore them just like you would do in real life. The game gives you the ability to make them completely silent to you.

My ignore list has tons of people who feel the need to demonstrate their immaturity to the world. How many times has asking someone to "grow up" ever worked? Just /ignore and move on without giving them a second thought.

Hilgara

Anonymity breeds contempt. I guarantee that if we were all in a room together we would converse much more civilly. No one ever lost their teeth over the internet.

wrlifeboil

Unfortunately, the world will always have bigots, imbeciles, and sleazoids. The only thing that you can do is to call them out on it.

Soloeus

Hilgara wrote: »

Anonymity breeds contempt. I guarantee that if we were all in a room together we would converse much more civilly. No one ever lost their teeth over the internet.

No. What would happen if we were all identified to each other, about 80% of all useful posters would stop posting anything. Look at the many sites that force Facebook Identification to post or see comments. Many accounts are just linked to garbage facebook accounts with blank profiles that contain minimum information and maybe a picture of a band logo.

AlexDougherty

Soloeus wrote: »

Hilgara wrote: »

Anonymity breeds contempt. I guarantee that if we were all in a room together we would converse much more civilly. No one ever lost their teeth over the internet.

No. What would happen if we were all identified to each other, about 80% of all useful posters would stop posting anything. Look at the many sites that force Facebook Identification to post or see comments. Many accounts are just linked to garbage facebook accounts with blank profiles that contain minimum information and maybe a picture of a band logo.

Yes and look at all the posters on Twitter/Facebook who troll people mercilessly, and I do mean mercilessly. These individuals wouldn't dare say half the crap they say if they thought they could be identified.

Different people take anonymity differently, some come out of their shell and behave civilly, some don't.

As a point I use my realname, I don't even pretend to be anonymous.

Hilgara

Anyone who was that bothered cold find the way to my BF page. have posted vids on here through my YouTube account that is linked to my BF account. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I'm not easily intimadated

bluesodafizz

Soloeus wrote: »

Also this isn't about profanity filters. A lot of nice people swear and a lot of troll jerks and bullies don't swear at all.

This 100%. Being mean to someone isn't about what they're saying, but rather how they're saying it. I think curse words are hilarious most of the time and they have a place in this adult game. I mean come on, even the NPCs use curse words. I've heard the word "damn" used more times than I can count in this game by NPC's who are upset or discouraged (it's an appropriate and scene setting word).

Most of the mean things that have been said to me in games and made me feel crappy had almost no profanity in it, just people being jerks. My husband and I curse at each other jokingly from time to time, it's a way of showing we like each other. If you're sensitive to words no matter the context then that's a text/speech phobia, not people being mean.

Thechemicals

Zone chat is nothing, Teamspeak is where you really hear people rage. Grown men yelling at other grown men about trivial things.

jrgray93

Honestly, most of the bad behavior I see on this game is limited to inconsiderate crafting node use, like stealing them from players that are obviously trying to loot them (standing over it, fighting things, etc), or leaving crawlers / worms because you can't be bothered to delete a 20g item from your inventory. Zone chat is occasionally a mess, but people are generally much better than on XBL and environments like that.

But yeah, I swear left and right but I'm not at all a mean person or troll. I do, however, jump all over people who are insulting others. Cursing isn't synonymous with being a bad person. I do keep it out of zone chat, though.

Hilgara

Thechemicals wrote: »

Zone chat is nothing, Teamspeak is where you really hear people rage. Grown men yelling at other grown men about trivial things.

Never ever heard this on TS. But then I only mix with friends on TS.

Lunerdog

Unfortunately all areas of the internet (including gaming) are a platform for jerks to let rip with their attitudes, one of the reasons is that it's a physically safe environment for them to do so as they know full well that they'd probably get punched repeatedly in face for doing it in public.

Thechemicals

Hilgara wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Zone chat is nothing, Teamspeak is where you really hear people rage. Grown men yelling at other grown men about trivial things.

Never ever heard this on TS. But then I only mix with friends on TS.

Yeah my guild ts is never bad but i joined a couple other guilds ts for pvp, and it was low class people raging on each other. Id mentioned their names but that wouldnt be classy plus they'd moan to me through pm's.

Hilgara

Lunerdog wrote: »

Unfortunately all areas of the internet (including gaming) are a platform for jerks to let rip with their attitudes, one of the reasons is that it's a physically safe environment for them to do so as they know full well that they'd probably get punched repeatedly in face for doing it in public.

Its natural to assume anyone getting overly offensive or aggressive on a forum is probably a [snip] who got bullied a lot as a kid..... and in some cases probably still is.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Lunerdog

Hilgara wrote: »

Lunerdog wrote: »

Unfortunately all areas of the internet (including gaming) are a platform for jerks to let rip with their attitudes, one of the reasons is that it's a physically safe environment for them to do so as they know full well that they'd probably get punched repeatedly in face for doing it in public.

Its natural to assume anyone getting overly offensive or aggressive on a forum is probably a [snip] who got bullied a lot as a kid..... and in some cases probably still is.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

I'd have to disagree, while some may I would think others would have the empathy to not be that guy.

Armitas

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

Cogo

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon" that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with outside stimulus. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own power, or the power of information of logic and truth.

Are you really saying WORDS "hurts" more on people then a gun?

I can prove that at least half the world, who is in conflict, or lives in countries with regular physical harm would LOVE to get called something bad, instead of getting killed, maimed or beaten just for their looks/religion or culture.

What you are talking about is us, who sits behind a computer as a protection.
Fact, every 4 SECOND on earth, a woman get "abused", to use a very simplistic term.

Words have power, yes. Fear, damage, REAL hurt? You are talking EGO.

The "problem" of words you are talking about is true, but to the extreme extent that people believe in the words and HURTS kills/hurts other people because they BELIEVE the words. Not the words themselves.....

Armitas

Cogo wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon" that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with outside stimulus. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own power, or the power of information of logic and truth.

Are you really saying WORDS "hurts" more on people then a gun?

Sure, because guns don't kill people, people do. Guns do not have intentionality. Intentionality is the realm of the living. Lets take the example of gun owner x whose wife is cheating on him. I can take an envelope, fill it with all the evidence of his wifes infidelity along with a written statement of what has been going on. I can mail it to him 10 years later, at which point he opens it, reads it, and goes to jail for murder. Or after sending him the envelope I can speak with him and talk him down from it.

One does not have to look too far back into history to see where 1 mans words can cause a global war. If he was mute, or even illiterate if you know history, then none of that would have happened.

It's also now experimentally proven that power can be stored in information. We can even scientifically measure it. The pen is truly mightier than the sword.

Soloeus

I don't trust people. I don't want others knowing who I am. This is the first barrier to my personal life, employer, and records. This is the protection I have from unknown hostiles, the one protection we have.

Anonymity is an essential liberty and without it we have nothing.

Tannakaobi

Cogo wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon" that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with outside stimulus. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own power, or the power of information of logic and truth.

Are you really saying WORDS "hurts" more on people then a gun?

I can prove that at least half the world, who is in conflict, or lives in countries with regular physical harm would LOVE to get called something bad, instead of getting killed, maimed or beaten just for their looks/religion or culture.

What you are talking about is us, who sits behind a computer as a protection.
Fact, every 4 SECOND on earth, a woman get "abused", to use a very simplistic term.

Words have power, yes. Fear, damage, REAL hurt? You are talking EGO.

The "problem" of words you are talking about is true, but to the extreme extent that people believe in the words and HURTS kills/hurts other people because they BELIEVE the words. Not the words themselves.....

I think you miss the point.

The reason WHY at least half the world are in conflict is because of words. The words of religion, words of politics, words of kings, words of terrorists.

Every 4 seconds on earth, a woman get "abused" BECAUSE of the words of someone.

A good example of this is Charles Manson, he never lifted a finger to kill someone, he used words to get other people to do it. Years later he is still in prison, yet the people that followed him are free.

AlexDougherty

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

Tannakaobi

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

But words are meaning. That is the very definition of words. Can people use nice words for ill meaning? Of course, but it is much harder to use bad words for nice meaning, possible, yet still open to interpretation.

Best to avoid such words if you care and are respectful of people, simple.

AlexDougherty

Tannakaobi wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

But words are meaning. That is the very definition of words. Can people use nice words for ill meaning? Of course, but it is much harder to use bad words for nice meaning, possible, yet still open to interpretation.

Best to avoid such words if you care and are respectful of people, simple.

Well, I am generally polite and respectful, but words are not meaning, words are sounds that we say represent some meaning. It may sound like I'm being overly fussy here, but it's a key point.

Yes, we can make nice words have a nasty meaning, and people frequently do, and quite viciously. But where I live, we also use swearwords without the negative connotations. In the area near Liverpool (England) we use swearwords as emphasis, and it's common to use quite severe swears to emphasise a positive statement. Actually it's quite common to varying degrees throughout England.

Of course there are words nobody uses as positive, and I'm not going to say what they are. these words are of course best avoided at all costs.

But the point I was making is that you can't focus on the way something is said, otherwise you end up falling for smart mouthed Individuals who can talk around a subject (Circumlocution is the word for that). The key is to notice what they mean, not what they are saying, and of course how they mean it (are they joking for example).

Armitas

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

Right, if I said

"Twas bryllyg, and ye slythy toves
Did gyre and gymble in ye wabe:
All mimsy were ye borogoves;
And ye mome raths outgrabe."

It would have a low potential energy because no significant information is held inside of it. Information is the medium for energy, and words are the medium for information. However if someone was familiar with Lewis Carrol it would have high potential energy.

I am unsure as to whether anything derived from an intentional beings could be done without there being any information or energy stored inside. Art would be a good example of that. A piece of art can change an entire day without a spoken word.

Words refer to a specific type of information (and consequently energy) conveyance.

bluesodafizz

Tannakaobi wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

But words are meaning. That is the very definition of words. Can people use nice words for ill meaning? Of course, but it is much harder to use bad words for nice meaning, possible, yet still open to interpretation.

Best to avoid such words if you care and are respectful of people, simple.

If that's the case then you would have to assume every single word that would upset every single person, not just your standard curse words.

Tannakaobi

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Tannakaobi wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

But words are meaning. That is the very definition of words. Can people use nice words for ill meaning? Of course, but it is much harder to use bad words for nice meaning, possible, yet still open to interpretation.

Best to avoid such words if you care and are respectful of people, simple.

Well, I am generally polite and respectful, but words are not meaning, words are sounds that we say represent some meaning. It may sound like I'm being overly fussy here, but it's a key point.

Yes, we can make nice words have a nasty meaning, and people frequently do, and quite viciously. But where I live, we also use swearwords without the negative connotations. In the area near Liverpool (England) we use swearwords as emphasis, and it's common to use quite severe swears to emphasise a positive statement. Actually it's quite common to varying degrees throughout England.

Of course there are words nobody uses as positive, and I'm not going to say what they are. these words are of course best avoided at all costs.

But the point I was making is that you can't focus on the way something is said, otherwise you end up falling for smart mouthed Individuals who can talk around a subject (Circumlocution is the word for that). The key is to notice what they mean, not what they are saying, and of course how they mean it (are they joking for example).

I'm English too, and yes where I live swear words can be used. I say can.. are! The funny thing is, the words you say 'of course best avoided at all costs' in Liverpool are probably the very words that are run of the mill in London, I don't live in London, but spend a lot of time there working, I also lived in Manchester while at uni.

Here's the thing, if I went to Liverpool I would not use these words used in London, Also as an outsider using them could be offensive to the good folk of Liverpool. The reason is because of friendship circles. You would not use curses, used on the street in a church for example, even in Liverpool. It is because it's different circles and such words would be offensive.

By the way words are not sounds, if they were, written word would hold no meaning. One sound can hold two meanings (Sun, son), some languages are lost in sound, but still hold meaning in text. Take the Sumerian tablets for example. Word are meaning. Even if you look at biblical text it says as much. But it is tomatoes, tomatoes. We will agree to disagree.

Armitas

One way to think about the dichotomy of word and meaning(information) is to put it back into the same thought experiment of Maxwells Demon.

In this case the demon is operating the same trap door with the same intention of making one room hot or cold. However the demon has poor vision and he mistakenly sees some particles as cold and some as hot, but in actuality what he thinks he sees as cold is the color blue, and what he thinks he sees as hot is the color red.

The demon, thinking he has changed the temperature in the rooms has actually made one room blue, and one room red leaving each room the same temperature. The significant thing is that he did it by information, even if that information was incorrect.

There are no independent variables involved in moving a particle up the stairs by information, but when it come to information against information things get complicated through the hidden variables of life. The significant thing is that information is powerful whether it's correct information or incorrect information.

AlexDougherty

Tannakaobi wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Tannakaobi wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Words are the most powerful human component in this world right now. It is non contingent volition or will that distinguishes us from that which is alive and that which is not. Words are in essence the tangible expression of our existence. It is not the shaking sword held by the hands of a soldier quivering in fear that wins a battle. It is the words spoken before that battle that strengths the grip, steadies the sword and aims it against it's target with ferocity. The power of words, or information has been shown in experiments such as those proving the case of "Maxwells Demon", that power can be stored in information.

We cannot simply ignore a word because it does have actual intrinsic power held up in it's information. As both conscious and unconscious experiencers our consciousness is always in conflict with the power of outside information. It is up to the person to disregard a negative word by their own living power, or the power of information held in logic and truth.

The words themselves are not the problem, it's the meaning behind those words. As I said earlier you can be abusive without using inappropriate words, and you can use those inappropriate words without offending.

It's a bit pointless to focus on the words/language when it's the meaning that offends.

But words are meaning. That is the very definition of words. Can people use nice words for ill meaning? Of course, but it is much harder to use bad words for nice meaning, possible, yet still open to interpretation.

Best to avoid such words if you care and are respectful of people, simple.

Well, I am generally polite and respectful, but words are not meaning, words are sounds that we say represent some meaning. It may sound like I'm being overly fussy here, but it's a key point.

Yes, we can make nice words have a nasty meaning, and people frequently do, and quite viciously. But where I live, we also use swearwords without the negative connotations. In the area near Liverpool (England) we use swearwords as emphasis, and it's common to use quite severe swears to emphasise a positive statement. Actually it's quite common to varying degrees throughout England.

Of course there are words nobody uses as positive, and I'm not going to say what they are. these words are of course best avoided at all costs.

But the point I was making is that you can't focus on the way something is said, otherwise you end up falling for smart mouthed Individuals who can talk around a subject (Circumlocution is the word for that). The key is to notice what they mean, not what they are saying, and of course how they mean it (are they joking for example).

I'm English too, and yes where I live swear words can be used. I say can.. are! The funny thing is, the words you say 'of course best avoided at all costs' in Liverpool are probably the very words that are run of the mill in London, I don't live in London, but spend a lot of time there working, I also lived in Manchester while at uni.

Here's the thing, if I went to Liverpool I would not use these words used in London, Also as an outsider using them could be offensive to the good folk of Liverpool. The reason is because of friendship circles. You would not use curses, used on the street in a church for example, even in Liverpool. It is because it's different circles and such words would be offensive.

By the way words are not sounds, if they were, written word would hold no meaning. One sound can hold two meanings (Sun, son), some languages are lost in sound, but still hold meaning in text. Take the Sumerian tablets for example. Word are meaning. Even if you look at biblical text it says as much. But it is tomatoes, tomatoes. We will agree to disagree.

You are probably right about not using swearwords on strangers, although people do (inoffensibly meant I mean, not just swearing at them). And you have something of a point about written words. And I will bow to you on people using words in London that are considered offensive elsewhere. And I feel we will be disagreeing on the fine detail, but no worries, it would be boring if we all agreed.

But the words best avoided I was refering to are racist terms (or possibly sexist/homeophobic words) and really are best avoided at all costs.

RatsnevE

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

No but you can turn on the profanity filter.

ZOS should permanently turn on the profanity filter and remove the choice. Why give anyone the choice to use any profanity--period. In other words...you want to name call or use profanity then you can't play this game. And if you get too creative about it you can get banned.