Nightblade v1.3 PTS updates.

Melufey

I thought they love Sorcs and DKs?

Gilvoth

we need an all nightblade guild and help eachother and stick close together.
im a guild leader and i have ventrillo i paid in full for 1 year and also a website for my guild thats all paid for and advertisement free.
if interested?

AKSb16_ESO2

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

we need an all nightblade guild and help eachother and stick close together.
im a guild leader and i have ventrillo i paid in full for 1 year and also a website for my guild thats all paid for and advertisement free.
if interested?

Hm. We could call the guild... "Dark Brotherhood".

adino

Almost resubbed today after reading that the fps issue was fixed. Decided against it and wait a day or two to see if they broke anything. We'll after reading this no reason for me to come back.

Honestly if they just told me why they can't get bows to work and why nbs are are so difficult to fix and why stamina is so neutered and why med armor... Sigh
nvm.

Hilgara

ZoS keep going on about how they want to rebalance slowly so not to overdo it. So why was this policy not used on the difficulty nerf? Why didn't they take small steps there as well?

mousekime111rwb17_ESO

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Nightblade

- Shadow
- Dark Cloak: This ability can no longer be activated when you don’t have any magicka.
- Manifestation of Terror (Aspect of Terror morph): The wraith summoned by using this ability no longer has collision.
- Summon Shade: Fixed an issue where using this ability could cause a monster to stare at the summoned shade for several seconds before attacking you.
- Assassination
- Incapacitate (Haste morph): This ability now has a visual effect when an enemy is immobilized.
- Pressure Points: The tooltip for this ability no longer reports an incorrect value when multiple assassination values are slotted.
- Siphoning
- Swallow Soul Rank II (Strife morph): This ability is now properly considered a Siphoning ability.

I'm so glad that another "fix" is coming for Dark Cloak that doesn't at all pertain to the reported (and acknowledged) issue that this skill is breaking constantly when it should not be.
It's great to see another adjustment to Haste before Haste is even properly working on the Bow.

I'm impressed by how ZOS has been listening to the most common feedback and bug reports related to this class.

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

only zenimax staff have explicitly said that it SHOULDN'T break if you deal damage by existing dots - what SHOULD break you out of it is you activating an ability or taking aoe damage.

SK1TZ0FR3N1K

iaintoff wrote: »

Who would play a nb anyway. Terrible role in cryodiil, e.g. Must pop out of stealth and gank another while on horse to win strategy (with your crappy bows) as any deviation from this extremely dull, lonely skillless play style usually means a defeat for your class. Lol

Riiiiiight! Because everyone plays this game for the AvAvAvLag. I know a lot of people playing their NB's for PvE only.

FYI, people on horses are targets too. Everyone in that zone is a target 100% of the time.

Side note: It seems, to me, as if some "lonely skillless" NB ripped you a new one, and now you have a little anger issue with PvP happening in a PvP zone.

zhevon

Skewki wrote: »

It was also breaking for no reason at all when you were close to NPC enemies

And ZoS designed a number of dungeons and delves so slealth (no matter how good its tweaked) is essentially worthless for sneaking by mobs or positioning for a kill.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

Obviously ZOS reasoning is like this : they are NB's after all - they are masochists by default . They enjoy being pushed away and down and thats why we will serve them last so they can enjoy longer.

Well we are not enjoying. I really don't see why is so difficult to repair issues we have from launch and at least it will be really nice of them to say - sorry guys we didn't made it for this patch we will do it by dd.mm.yy .
Don't repair tells , tooltips and such irrelevant stuff - repair real things which doesn't work for last 3 months ( haste on bows for example, stamina driven dps ... )
To conclude - ZOS didn't touched class imbalance, stam / magica builds imbalance nor new group content on this patch - so what makes that patch - big patch ?. Colours and tabards ?
Really don't know do they think that 2 month intervals are sufficient iteration steps in fixing those issues. With that pace everything will be fixed in 6 month and that is time people are not willing to wait. Perhaps that will be reward for last man standing but again - against whom he will be balanced.

Tavore1138

In 1.4 they will just change the tooltip for Dark Cloak & morphs to say 'has a small chance to make you invisible to the occasional mob if the stars are correctly aligned.'

Et voila! Fixed!

Hilgara

SK1TZ0FR3N1K wrote: »

iaintoff wrote: »

Who would play a nb anyway. Terrible role in cryodiil, e.g. Must pop out of stealth and gank another while on horse to win strategy (with your crappy bows) as any deviation from this extremely dull, lonely skillless play style usually means a defeat for your class. Lol

Riiiiiight! Because everyone plays this game for the AvAvAvLag. I know a lot of people playing their NB's for PvE only.

FYI, people on horses are targets too. Everyone in that zone is a target 100% of the time.

Side note: It seems, to me, as if some "lonely skillless" NB ripped you a new one, and now you have a little anger issue with PvP happening in a PvP zone.

Sounds like he's had his arse handed to him by a few NB's

Bobojones

tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »

Obviously ZOS reasoning is like this : they are NB's after all - they are masochists by default . They enjoy being pushed away and down and thats why we will serve them last so they can enjoy longer.

Well we are not enjoying. I really don't see why is so difficult to repair issues we have from launch and at least it will be really nice of them to say - sorry guys we didn't made it for this patch we will do it by dd.mm.yy .
Don't repair tells , tooltips and such irrelevant stuff - repair real things which doesn't work for last 3 months ( haste on bows for example, stamina driven dps ... )
To conclude - ZOS didn't touched class imbalance, stam / magica builds imbalance nor new group content on this patch - so what makes that patch - big patch ?. Colours and tabards ?
Really don't know do they think that 2 month intervals are sufficient iteration steps in fixing those issues. With that pace everything will be fixed in 6 month and that is time people are not willing to wait. Perhaps that will be reward for last man standing but again - against whom he will be balanced.

totaly agreed

Tenofas

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

we need an all nightblade guild and help eachother and stick close together.
im a guild leader and i have ventrillo i paid in full for 1 year and also a website for my guild thats all paid for and advertisement free.
if interested?

Are you serious? I have been looking for such a guild for the last month and a half!!!
Are you on NA or EU server?!?!

D2player87

So many idiots looking down on nbs. Bet you'll eat your own words if you see me soloing a vet dolmen or saving your worthless ass at a world boss.

D2player87

I'm all for a nightblade guild, stamina builds magicka builds we are all equally looked down upon and ignored by ZOS. But STILL we persevere and push on.

butterfly442

NB, the new red headed step child...

steveb16_ESO46

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

Ignoring how it randomly breaks where there's no aoe or a dots. Any other stunning revelations you'd like to share with the class?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Clearly not a bug, riiiight.

Shush - don't distract the knee-jerk apologists. They might end up losing a tooth.

pmn100b16_ESO

I hope they never fix all the NB bugs, I'd have no excuse for dying left.

zhevon

butterfly442 wrote: »

NB, the new red headed step child...

Cough ... its been the red headed step child since release.

Samadhi

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

we need an all nightblade guild and help eachother and stick close together.
im a guild leader and i have ventrillo i paid in full for 1 year and also a website for my guild thats all paid for and advertisement free.
if interested?

My connection is a bit too shoddy to use Ventrillo too frequently, but I'd be up for the in-game side of such a guild.

Wifeaggro13

Junkogen wrote: »

I don't understand why it's cool for them to leave DKs as supermen, but neglect NBs. The devs love them some dragonknight.

Nah . they have leveled us pretty hard the problem is nightblades have a hard ass time understanding that it the stamina dual wield builds across the board are Fugged for all classes. Was in a trial yesterday watching a NB in dress and stick post his DPS in chat it was destroying everyone in the trial by 400 plus every pull and it was 9 Dk's in Dress and stick 2 temp heals and one DK in SNS for tanking.

You need to face the facts its not so much the class as it is the build and right now zos has done nothing to help medium / heavy melee builds. Get your self some light armor resto staff destro swap and grab the NB cookie cutter rotation and youll parse better then the DK's

Buck

Samadhi wrote: »

Nightblade

- Shadow
- Dark Cloak: This ability can no longer be activated when you don’t have any magicka.
- Manifestation of Terror (Aspect of Terror morph): The wraith summoned by using this ability no longer has collision.
- Summon Shade: Fixed an issue where using this ability could cause a monster to stare at the summoned shade for several seconds before attacking you.
- Assassination
- Incapacitate (Haste morph): This ability now has a visual effect when an enemy is immobilized.
- Pressure Points: The tooltip for this ability no longer reports an incorrect value when multiple assassination values are slotted.
- Siphoning
- Swallow Soul Rank II (Strife morph): This ability is now properly considered a Siphoning ability.

I'm so glad that another "fix" is coming for Dark Cloak that doesn't at all pertain to the reported (and acknowledged) issue that this skill is breaking constantly when it should not be.
It's great to see another adjustment to Haste before Haste is even properly working on the Bow.

I'm impressed by how ZOS has been listening to the most common feedback and bug reports related to this class.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

COMBAT & GAMEPLAY
[*] Magicka Flood: This ability is reportedly not fixed as noted.

June 25 edited July 7

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kieso

in PVE i get this bug where right after I kill one mob I cloak and then hit the next mob with concealed strike and stun it but the strike does 0 damage. I get it about 50% of the time. But only in fights of two or more and only after I just finish killing a mob.