Nightblade v1.3 PTS updates.

Samadhi

Nightblade

- Shadow
- Dark Cloak: This ability can no longer be activated when you don’t have any magicka.
- Manifestation of Terror (Aspect of Terror morph): The wraith summoned by using this ability no longer has collision.
- Summon Shade: Fixed an issue where using this ability could cause a monster to stare at the summoned shade for several seconds before attacking you.
- Assassination
- Incapacitate (Haste morph): This ability now has a visual effect when an enemy is immobilized.
- Pressure Points: The tooltip for this ability no longer reports an incorrect value when multiple assassination values are slotted.
- Siphoning
- Swallow Soul Rank II (Strife morph): This ability is now properly considered a Siphoning ability.

I'm so glad that another "fix" is coming for Dark Cloak that doesn't at all pertain to the reported (and acknowledged) issue that this skill is breaking constantly when it should not be.
It's great to see another adjustment to Haste before Haste is even properly working on the Bow.

I'm impressed by how ZOS has been listening to the most common feedback and bug reports related to this class.

Arsenic_Touch

I've given up on them actually fixing things for nightblades.

Xsorus

Samadhi wrote: »

Nightblade

- Shadow
- Dark Cloak: This ability can no longer be activated when you don’t have any magicka.
- Manifestation of Terror (Aspect of Terror morph): The wraith summoned by using this ability no longer has collision.
- Summon Shade: Fixed an issue where using this ability could cause a monster to stare at the summoned shade for several seconds before attacking you.
- Assassination
- Incapacitate (Haste morph): This ability now has a visual effect when an enemy is immobilized.
- Pressure Points: The tooltip for this ability no longer reports an incorrect value when multiple assassination values are slotted.
- Siphoning
- Swallow Soul Rank II (Strife morph): This ability is now properly considered a Siphoning ability.

I'm so glad that another "fix" is coming for Dark Cloak that doesn't at all pertain to the reported (and acknowledged) issue that this skill is breaking constantly when it should not be.
It's great to see another adjustment to Haste before Haste is even properly working on the Bow.

I'm impressed by how ZOS has been listening to the most common feedback and bug reports related to this class.

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

Arsenic_Touch

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

Ignoring how it randomly breaks where there's no aoe or a dots. Any other stunning revelations you'd like to share with the class?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Clearly not a bug, riiiight.

Samadhi

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

Ignoring how it randomly breaks where there's no aoe or a dots. Any other stunning revelations you'd like to share with the class?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Clearly not a bug, riiiight.

It's only a bug if you play Nightblade, if you play any other class it is working as intended and not worth ZOS' time.

Arsenic_Touch

Samadhi wrote: »

It's only a bug if you play Nightblade, if you play any other class it is working as intended and not worth ZOS' time.

Sounds about right.

ShedsHisTail

Samadhi wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

Ignoring how it randomly breaks where there's no aoe or a dots. Any other stunning revelations you'd like to share with the class?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Clearly not a bug, riiiight.

It's only a bug if you play Nightblade, if you play any other class it is working as intended and not worth ZOS' time.

wut?

Kiljaz

Don't forget light attacks in your direction also break it..

Maulkin

If I look at you direction I also break it

Liquid_Time

The annoying "bugs" and "breaks" occur for everyone, but some of these have been day 1 issues. Fix those and I will be happy-ish

Loco_Mofo

I don't know why I had a slither of hope when I clicked this thread, I should know better by now...

TheBull

This can't be all... Must be a bad joke.

Dark Cloak w/o magica hahah yeah it's a joke! Good one ZOS hahahah

zhevon

Hmmm ... most of these fixes are cosmetic or seem kind of nerfy. Nothing wrong with fixing bugs and tooltips; but they have been dragging their feet consistently since release on fixing the serious flaws which weaken the NB class.

kijima

Is Nb still broken, well kind of. But, it can work and work well.

I understand well enough why balance with classes is something that ZOS move slowly with as changes to classes can have an overnight effect that can change the game dramatically for better or worse and cause issues with imbalance. So, I'm prepared to wait for more, careful changes that bring more balance between the classes.

Having said all that, the class itself of NB has skill lines which don't work as intended, so pushing the gimped skill lines and expecting them to work is painfully arduous. It's fixing the skill lines to do what they were intended to do is what I'd like to see done. I don't want a 'win' button to mash, I don't require buff's with my build, I make do and i'm realistic in what I believe my toon should and shouldn't be able to do.

I just want my skills to work like they should.

rekina

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it


That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

And this is why you should never believe what forum people says. They don't know what they are talking about.

Samadhi

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

I don't know why I had a slither of hope when I clicked this thread, I should know better by now...

I used to check the updates thinking "I hope they finally buffed Nightblade."
Now I check the updates thinking "I hope they finally at least have Nightblade fixed"
I think next time I check the update I will simply think "I hope they mention Nightblade in these notes so I still know they're aware the class exists in game."

Samadhi

TheBull wrote: »

This can't be all... Must be a bad joke.

Dark Cloak w/o magica hahah yeah it's a joke! Good one ZOS hahahah

Well to be fair, stopping Dark Cloak from working without Magicka is a super important fix

It may have been giving Nightblades the unrealistic expectation that this skill will work properly when they have Magicka.

TheBull

rekina wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it


That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

And this is why you should never believe what forum people says. They don't know what they are talking about.

rekina wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it


That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

And this is why you should never believe what forum people says. They don't know what they are talking about.

Two is a bug and has been stated as "Not working as intended." Your dot should not beak you from stealth. Pick who you listen to on the forums wisely...

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

TheBull

Samadhi wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

This can't be all... Must be a bad joke.

Dark Cloak w/o magica hahah yeah it's a joke! Good one ZOS hahahah

Well to be fair, stopping Dark Cloak from working without Magicka is a super important fix

It may have been giving Nightblades the unrealistic expectation that this skill will work properly when they have Magicka.

You must not be a Night Blade... Omg if this worked. I promise you everyone went to test it when they saw this.

Hilgara

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Nightblade

- Shadow
- Dark Cloak: This ability can no longer be activated when you don’t have any magicka.
- Manifestation of Terror (Aspect of Terror morph): The wraith summoned by using this ability no longer has collision.
- Summon Shade: Fixed an issue where using this ability could cause a monster to stare at the summoned shade for several seconds before attacking you.
- Assassination
- Incapacitate (Haste morph): This ability now has a visual effect when an enemy is immobilized.
- Pressure Points: The tooltip for this ability no longer reports an incorrect value when multiple assassination values are slotted.
- Siphoning
- Swallow Soul Rank II (Strife morph): This ability is now properly considered a Siphoning ability.

I'm so glad that another "fix" is coming for Dark Cloak that doesn't at all pertain to the reported (and acknowledged) issue that this skill is breaking constantly when it should not be.
It's great to see another adjustment to Haste before Haste is even properly working on the Bow.

I'm impressed by how ZOS has been listening to the most common feedback and bug reports related to this class.

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

2. has been acknowledged by ZoS as a bug

Honfold

I have actually finally decided to take cloak off of my melee toolbar. It just never works. Cant tell you how many times tonight I have broken out of combat with it the stealth meter tells me I am completely hidden and boom charged then hit with 12 crystal shards.

Francescolg

In any game, players should be able to take you out of stealth with an AE! That is working as intended, I think.. And it, wait, makes so much sense too

Samadhi

TheBull wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

This can't be all... Must be a bad joke.

Dark Cloak w/o magica hahah yeah it's a joke! Good one ZOS hahahah

Well to be fair, stopping Dark Cloak from working without Magicka is a super important fix

It may have been giving Nightblades the unrealistic expectation that this skill will work properly when they have Magicka.

You must not be a Night Blade... Omg if this worked. I promise you everyone went to test it when they saw this.

I can't test it, I use Shadowy Disguise morph.
I also have well over 100k gold sunk into skill resets -- I'm definitely a Nightblade.

iaintoff

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

Ignoring how it randomly breaks where there's no aoe or a dots. Any other stunning revelations you'd like to share with the class?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1

General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.

Clearly not a bug, riiiight.

Who would play a nb anyway. Terrible role in cryodiil, e.g. Must pop out of stealth and gank another while on horse to win strategy (with your crappy bows) as any deviation from this extremely dull, lonely skillless play style usually means a defeat for your class. Lol

Hilgara

Never had an issue with the cloak. I just never put dots on my bar. if you are in a zerg remember that it only removes 4 dots on you at level 4 so you will often get more than that on you.

TheBull

Samadhi wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

This can't be all... Must be a bad joke.

Dark Cloak w/o magica hahah yeah it's a joke! Good one ZOS hahahah

Well to be fair, stopping Dark Cloak from working without Magicka is a super important fix

It may have been giving Nightblades the unrealistic expectation that this skill will work properly when they have Magicka.

You must not be a Night Blade... Omg if this worked. I promise you everyone went to test it when they saw this.

I can't test it, I use Shadowy Disguise morph.
I also have well over 100k gold sunk into skill resets -- I'm definitely a Nightblade.

hahah me too! Think I'm going to respec in a little bit lmao. I've tested it ever which way since I saw this haha.

Skewki

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Dark Cloak breaks for 2 reasons

1. You've been hit by an AOE, that'll break you out of it

2. You've put a dot on someone, and the dot has ticked..That'll break you out of it

That is the only 2 reasons it breaks, Neither are bugs.

It was also breaking for no reason at all when you were close to NPC enemies

iaintoff

E.g if you aren't killing me before my oh look I've fallen off my horse animation is over then it's vicious curse, proc, crystal shards/ good night.

Gilvoth

Samadhi wrote: »

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

I don't know why I had a slither of hope when I clicked this thread, I should know better by now...

I used to check the updates thinking "I hope they finally buffed Nightblade."
Now I check the updates thinking "I hope they finally at least have Nightblade fixed"
I think next time I check the update I will simply think "I hope they mention Nightblade in these notes so I still know they're aware the class exists in game."

i hate admiting this is the truth

Melufey

Wait... there are still Nightblades out there? o.O

Junkogen

I don't understand why it's cool for them to leave DKs as supermen, but neglect NBs. The devs love them some dragonknight.