To the people who defend the game

Aeradon

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

... form of entertainment it's ultimately of no real significance.

Someone is so going to get ganked by the fan-boys...rofl

He's right, though. It's a hobby, and has utterly no real significance to anything in life. It's for personal enjoyment and entertainment alone. Like sports, or reading fiction, etc.

I can understand a developer taking the game serious. That hobby is also his lifeblood. But a gamer? That's just laughable.

So does anything in life not having any real significance when one is dead. We live in this world to enjoy ourselves. We work for the entertainment we wish to obtain, of which we call a better life.

I don't disagree with him. I just feel that we work for this piece of entertainment. It doesn't perform as good as it should be; some will move on to another piece and work for it, some will make remarks and hope the industry improves for the better of others and the future.

The gaming/entertainment industry would not grow to this size if nobody is ever serious about it. Nor is it gonna improve when nobody cares to leave a comment.

If any entertainment isn't entertaining you like you want, then it's definitely the smarter choice to move on.

Don't put your heart into someone else's game. They close down on you, they change direction, they change scope.

I've been loving and playing MMO's for more than a decade, and used to put a lot of myself into these games. And then I started seeing worlds I'd enjoyed for so long close up and disappear, and I had absolutely no say in it.

It's almost like that first divorce, when you realize that relationships can be temporary and fickle. You harden up a little bit and are more prepared for the next one to fold.

I don't recommend any player care so much about entertainment. But that's spoken from personal experience, and I doubt many, if any, can take that advice until it happens to them personally.

I know if they closed ESO tomorrow, or went free-to-play, or decided to go console only, or decided to change the graphics, or class system, etc, etc? I would simply move on.

One should never fret over decisions that aren't theirs to make.

I don't think there is ever any product that does not have a life cycle. Things improve, the world changes. Should this game goes down as one of the biggest failure, I would move on.

I've seen great MMO that has lived for a long time, that dwindles down and close up, making way for the better. A game that entertains, and unites players, even when they go down, it remains a legend. It's been a decade since I played that MMO, yet when I travel to a new land, it becomes a surprising topic of conversation. These products lived their life fully, and provided more than entertainment.

I see potential in this game, should they decide to leverage upon that potential is up to them. But as every relationship is, we put our hearts in, cross our fingers and hope it works out. At the very least, when the divorce comes, we know we had a great time and had tried our very best. We could move on with no remorse. It will remain a part of life I have contributed to instead of just something that I don't care about yet spent my time with.

I agree that one do not fret over decisions made by others that aren't theirs to make. However, I will try to influence that decision if it concerns more than just that person. If my attempt fails, at least I have tried. The same goes to family, relationships and business.

I don't want my tombstone to write, "Just another guy who kept quiet and moved on."

mutharex

If a video games obsesses you so much, you should find a different way to spent your free time

Figs

mutharex wrote: »

If a video games obsesses you so much, you should find a different way to spent your free time

He spent a minimum of $100 for this game, and even more if he payed in €. He has every right to be "obsessed" aka upset over it.

Fairydragon3

Vis wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

I can share from personal experience that I have reported several players from everything included speed hacking and one shotting with a sword. It is difficult to assess whether action has ever been taken on any reports, but I do know most of the exploiters continue to run free today. One even contacted me to gloat that no action was ever taken against him for his speed hacking in pvp.

Wow, that sucks.

It was my fault for telling him my group of 4 had all reported him after seeing him use it for the third time.

and u reported that conversation right?

Fairydragon3

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

... form of entertainment it's ultimately of no real significance.

Someone is so going to get ganked by the fan-boys...rofl

He's right, though. It's a hobby, and has utterly no real significance to anything in life. It's for personal enjoyment and entertainment alone. Like sports, or reading fiction, etc.

I can understand a developer taking the game serious. That hobby is also his lifeblood. But a gamer? That's just laughable.

So does anything in life not having any real significance when one is dead. We live in this world to enjoy ourselves. We work for the entertainment we wish to obtain, of which we call a better life.

I don't disagree with him. I just feel that we work for this piece of entertainment. It doesn't perform as good as it should be; some will move on to another piece and work for it, some will make remarks and hope the industry improves for the better of others and the future.

The gaming/entertainment industry would not grow to this size if nobody is ever serious about it. Nor is it gonna improve when nobody cares to leave a comment.

If any entertainment isn't entertaining you like you want, then it's definitely the smarter choice to move on.

Don't put your heart into someone else's game. They close down on you, they change direction, they change scope.

I've been loving and playing MMO's for more than a decade, and used to put a lot of myself into these games. And then I started seeing worlds I'd enjoyed for so long close up and disappear, and I had absolutely no say in it.

It's almost like that first divorce, when you realize that relationships can be temporary and fickle. You harden up a little bit and are more prepared for the next one to fold.

I don't recommend any player care so much about entertainment. But that's spoken from personal experience, and I doubt many, if any, can take that advice until it happens to them personally.

I know if they closed ESO tomorrow, or went free-to-play, or decided to go console only, or decided to change the graphics, or class system, etc, etc? I would simply move on.

One should never fret over decisions that aren't theirs to make.

I don't think there is ever any product that does not have a life cycle. Things improve, the world changes. Should this game goes down as one of the biggest failure, I would move on.

I've seen great MMO that has lived for a long time, that dwindles down and close up, making way for the better. A game that entertains, and unites players, even when they go down, it remains a legend. It's been a decade since I played that MMO, yet when I travel to a new land, it becomes a surprising topic of conversation. These products lived their life fully, and provided more than entertainment.

I see potential in this game, should they decide to leverage upon that potential is up to them. But as every relationship is, we put our hearts in, cross our fingers and hope it works out. At the very least, when the divorce comes, we know we had a great time and had tried our very best. We could move on with no remorse. It will remain a part of life I have contributed to instead of just something that I don't care about yet spent my time with.

I agree that one do not fret over decisions made by others that aren't theirs to make. However, I will try to influence that decision if it concerns more than just that person. If my attempt fails, at least I have tried. The same goes to family, relationships and business.

I don't want my tombstone to write, "Just another guy who kept quiet and moved on."

note your tomb stone will one day turn to dust, sunrise sunset

GreySix

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

... form of entertainment it's ultimately of no real significance.

Someone is so going to get ganked by the fan-boys...rofl

He's right, though. It's a hobby, and has utterly no real significance to anything in life. It's for personal enjoyment and entertainment alone. Like sports, or reading fiction, etc.

I can understand a developer taking the game serious. That hobby is also his lifeblood. But a gamer? That's just laughable.

So does anything in life not having any real significance when one is dead. We live in this world to enjoy ourselves. We work for the entertainment we wish to obtain, of which we call a better life.

I don't disagree with him. I just feel that we work for this piece of entertainment. It doesn't perform as good as it should be; some will move on to another piece and work for it, some will make remarks and hope the industry improves for the better of others and the future.

The gaming/entertainment industry would not grow to this size if nobody is ever serious about it. Nor is it gonna improve when nobody cares to leave a comment.

If any entertainment isn't entertaining you like you want, then it's definitely the smarter choice to move on.

Don't put your heart into someone else's game. They close down on you, they change direction, they change scope.

I've been loving and playing MMO's for more than a decade, and used to put a lot of myself into these games. And then I started seeing worlds I'd enjoyed for so long close up and disappear, and I had absolutely no say in it.

It's almost like that first divorce, when you realize that relationships can be temporary and fickle. You harden up a little bit and are more prepared for the next one to fold.

I don't recommend any player care so much about entertainment. But that's spoken from personal experience, and I doubt many, if any, can take that advice until it happens to them personally.

I know if they closed ESO tomorrow, or went free-to-play, or decided to go console only, or decided to change the graphics, or class system, etc, etc? I would simply move on.

One should never fret over decisions that aren't theirs to make.

I don't think there is ever any product that does not have a life cycle. Things improve, the world changes. Should this game goes down as one of the biggest failure, I would move on.

I've seen great MMO that has lived for a long time, that dwindles down and close up, making way for the better. A game that entertains, and unites players, even when they go down, it remains a legend. It's been a decade since I played that MMO, yet when I travel to a new land, it becomes a surprising topic of conversation. These products lived their life fully, and provided more than entertainment.

I see potential in this game, should they decide to leverage upon that potential is up to them. But as every relationship is, we put our hearts in, cross our fingers and hope it works out. At the very least, when the divorce comes, we know we had a great time and had tried our very best. We could move on with no remorse. It will remain a part of life I have contributed to instead of just something that I don't care about yet spent my time with.

I agree that one do not fret over decisions made by others that aren't theirs to make. However, I will try to influence that decision if it concerns more than just that person. If my attempt fails, at least I have tried. The same goes to family, relationships and business.

I don't want my tombstone to write, "Just another guy who kept quiet and moved on."

note your tomb stone will one day turn to dust, sunrise sunset

Yep, relax. Its unlikely that in 200 years anyone will remember anything about you. But most of us are in the same boat, so it's all good.

Evergnar

Con64 wrote: »

It's a train wreck, you guy's! Wakie, wakie!

No eggs & bakey?
:'(

MonkeyAssassin24

I was intrigued by the write-up until I got to the part where you compared it to a car, then I had to stop. I am so sick and tired of this worthless analogy. Automobiles have gotten to the point where they are mass produced on a factory line, mostly by machines, and also are regulated by government and worldwide organizations for everything from safety to function. So yeah if my brand new, never been used car comes with a broken radio, I'm going to be upset.

Also, how old are mmo's in general? About 20 years if that? Hmm I wonder how many vehicles created 20 years after their invention came out into the world flawless.

So please just stop it already with the car analogies.

AlexDougherty

GreySix wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Phantax wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

... form of entertainment it's ultimately of no real significance.

Someone is so going to get ganked by the fan-boys...rofl

He's right, though. It's a hobby, and has utterly no real significance to anything in life. It's for personal enjoyment and entertainment alone. Like sports, or reading fiction, etc.

I can understand a developer taking the game serious. That hobby is also his lifeblood. But a gamer? That's just laughable.

So does anything in life not having any real significance when one is dead. We live in this world to enjoy ourselves. We work for the entertainment we wish to obtain, of which we call a better life.

I don't disagree with him. I just feel that we work for this piece of entertainment. It doesn't perform as good as it should be; some will move on to another piece and work for it, some will make remarks and hope the industry improves for the better of others and the future.

The gaming/entertainment industry would not grow to this size if nobody is ever serious about it. Nor is it gonna improve when nobody cares to leave a comment.

If any entertainment isn't entertaining you like you want, then it's definitely the smarter choice to move on.

Don't put your heart into someone else's game. They close down on you, they change direction, they change scope.

I've been loving and playing MMO's for more than a decade, and used to put a lot of myself into these games. And then I started seeing worlds I'd enjoyed for so long close up and disappear, and I had absolutely no say in it.

It's almost like that first divorce, when you realize that relationships can be temporary and fickle. You harden up a little bit and are more prepared for the next one to fold.

I don't recommend any player care so much about entertainment. But that's spoken from personal experience, and I doubt many, if any, can take that advice until it happens to them personally.

I know if they closed ESO tomorrow, or went free-to-play, or decided to go console only, or decided to change the graphics, or class system, etc, etc? I would simply move on.

One should never fret over decisions that aren't theirs to make.

I don't think there is ever any product that does not have a life cycle. Things improve, the world changes. Should this game goes down as one of the biggest failure, I would move on.

I've seen great MMO that has lived for a long time, that dwindles down and close up, making way for the better. A game that entertains, and unites players, even when they go down, it remains a legend. It's been a decade since I played that MMO, yet when I travel to a new land, it becomes a surprising topic of conversation. These products lived their life fully, and provided more than entertainment.

I see potential in this game, should they decide to leverage upon that potential is up to them. But as every relationship is, we put our hearts in, cross our fingers and hope it works out. At the very least, when the divorce comes, we know we had a great time and had tried our very best. We could move on with no remorse. It will remain a part of life I have contributed to instead of just something that I don't care about yet spent my time with.

I agree that one do not fret over decisions made by others that aren't theirs to make. However, I will try to influence that decision if it concerns more than just that person. If my attempt fails, at least I have tried. The same goes to family, relationships and business.

I don't want my tombstone to write, "Just another guy who kept quiet and moved on."

note your tomb stone will one day turn to dust, sunrise sunset

Yep, relax. Its unlikely that in 200 years anyone will remember anything about you. But most of us are in the same boat, so it's all good.

I hope nobody remembers me in 200 years time, people these days only remember the Murderers and Idiots who accidently destroy half a city.

I'm hoping to do neither. O:) O:) O:)

ThisOnePosts

OP: Upgrade your computer. Learn 2 play. You must be new to MMOs. Sure while these may be annoying replies, you can deny it all you want however they will apply to most things. I stopped reading at average graphics. You must have some mediocre rig or be comparing it to single player games. In terms of MMOs, this is one of the best-looking MMOs out there. Customer service has also been great with me. You experience a lot of issues that is expected of someone new to MMOs. So either you are new and okay --- you'll learn ---- or you have the crappiest luck in which case, don't ever go to Las Vegas. However even you being unlucky wouldn't cover it based on what you said about content and functionality which would also include not very aware of what goes on around you. MMOs will never, ever, ever be released completely bug free and it's very common that updates/patches will correct them but have others. Eventually the ratio gets better and better and better. This is nothing exclusive to ESO.

I believe you should just move on and find another game, that is the only way you'll learn.

Also, I'd pay double the monthly fees just to have a monthly fee. It keeps away more trash than it seems your mind fathoms at this point.

Evergnar

ViciousWayz wrote: »

OP: Upgrade your computer. Learn 2 play. You must be new to MMOs.

The trifecta, LoL. I stopped reading after that.

GreySix

ViciousWayz wrote: »

Also, I'd pay double the monthly fees just to have a monthly fee. It keeps away more trash than it seems your mind fathoms at this point.

Apparently not, since you seem to take issue with so many subscription-paying folks here.

Lalai

For my own personal review of the game I take into account only issues I get, and what the patches fixed for me. I've never, not once, got hit by a game breaking bug, or something that blocked progression. For whatever reason, the main storyline quests have always worked for me, and the few side quests that were bugged were also fixed within a few relogs. If I've had to contact support, they've gotten back to me within an hour via e-mail with either a work around for the problem, or a straight up fix.

The maintenance times.. well, my last MMO before this was FFXIV:ARR, and it went down more frequently (was every other day at launch into the first few months, all of them "emergency" since zero were scheduled), plus was unplayable (literally so, like character creation locked on all servers.. they even have character creation still locked on some of them). Add to that that the the maintenance times are mostly while I'm working anyway, so I don't really ever see them... and they don't really dig into any score I'd give it. I also don't knock it for not having ETAs on when the servers will be up if maintenance needs to be extended. I've just don't see ETAs work out well in games that do them. The ETA keeps getting extended and that just makes people upset. So it's one of those damned if they do, damned if they don't deals.

Patches.. every single one has fixed more than it has broke overall, and has definitely fixed more than it broke for me personally. So, no real low score there either. The patch notes definitely need work, not gonna disagree there.

I'd honestly give the game a 7/10, and only because it still has some bugs and issues to work out, and there are some basic interface things I would improve upon. Could the communication be better? Of course it could, but it's also not horrible. There are new green posts here all the time, and it's not really all that common for devs themselves to speak directly to players for large title games, so I usually go in expecting some sort of go between in the form of a community relations person.

The game isn't perfect, but it's also not the broken mess that many on the forums claim it is. It may be broken for what they're trying to do specifically, but I honestly don't think the majority of people are having the same issues when it comes to most of these things, or the forums would actually be kind of unified in what exactly they're hating against. When an issue is truly hitting everyone, forum threads get pretty dang huge (like 30-40+ pages). That of course, is just my perception based on what I've seen in other games, and what I've seen through my time in a technical support customer service role.

People would post on the Amazon forums that a part of the service was broke, maybe they were getting a certain error. If they did a google search, they could find a ton of customers also having the problem, and then they'd call us and tell us how big a problem it was. In reality, the problem was only hitting a fraction of a percentage of our customer base. That can still mean thousands of people get hit by it, but other issues that hit more customers take precedence for fixing, and the perception from the customer stand point was always that cause they could find tons of other people, it was a huge issue. I would not be surprised in the slightest if the same thing is being reflected on these forums.

A software program is also not a car, any comparisons there are pretty dang useless. It would be much better to compare a game with a different software program, in which case, yes, sometimes patches can break things for some users. Those things are usually then patched as quickly as the company can manage. Bugs, and users experiencing them, are just part of the nature of programming. The best you can hope to do is keep the people who can't play, or can't access your software, to a minimum. There is never going to be a case where a piece of software works well and without any bugs on every single person's system.

Dusty5

You trying to talk to a brick wall? or reason with a fanboi? silly question there is no difference.

Aeradon

ViciousWayz wrote: »

OP: Upgrade your computer. Learn 2 play. You must be new to MMOs. Sure while these may be annoying replies, you can deny it all you want however they will apply to most things. I stopped reading at average graphics. You must have some mediocre rig or be comparing it to single player games. In terms of MMOs, this is one of the best-looking MMOs out there. Customer service has also been great with me. You experience a lot of issues that is expected of someone new to MMOs. So either you are new and okay --- you'll learn ---- or you have the crappiest luck in which case, don't ever go to Las Vegas. However even you being unlucky wouldn't cover it based on what you said about content and functionality which would also include not very aware of what goes on around you. MMOs will never, ever, ever be released completely bug free and it's very common that updates/patches will correct them but have others. Eventually the ratio gets better and better and better. This is nothing exclusive to ESO.

I believe you should just move on and find another game, that is the only way you'll learn.

Also, I'd pay double the monthly fees just to have a monthly fee. It keeps away more trash than it seems your mind fathoms at this point.

I give up. You didn't even read. You win.

AlexDougherty

Aeradon wrote: »

ViciousWayz wrote: »

OP: Upgrade your computer. Learn 2 play. You must be new to MMOs. Sure while these may be annoying replies, you can deny it all you want however they will apply to most things. I stopped reading at average graphics. You must have some mediocre rig or be comparing it to single player games. In terms of MMOs, this is one of the best-looking MMOs out there. Customer service has also been great with me. You experience a lot of issues that is expected of someone new to MMOs. So either you are new and okay --- you'll learn ---- or you have the crappiest luck in which case, don't ever go to Las Vegas. However even you being unlucky wouldn't cover it based on what you said about content and functionality which would also include not very aware of what goes on around you. MMOs will never, ever, ever be released completely bug free and it's very common that updates/patches will correct them but have others. Eventually the ratio gets better and better and better. This is nothing exclusive to ESO.

I believe you should just move on and find another game, that is the only way you'll learn.

Also, I'd pay double the monthly fees just to have a monthly fee. It keeps away more trash than it seems your mind fathoms at this point.

I give up. You didn't even read. You win.

Yeah, you can't argue with someone who just doesn't listen.

KariTR

I wish we had a :yap, yap, yap: button.

I said "Yap"!

Eivar

For me it comes down to this:
ESO is a fantastic game conceptually, but is far off the mark when it comes to the execution of that concept. Overall I think the whole project is being mismanaged, and they need to change direction quick before they lose more players. I really wanted ESO to be my new mmo home, but on the path it's taking I don't see that happening anymore.

Aeradon

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

I was intrigued by the write-up until I got to the part where you compared it to a car, then I had to stop. I am so sick and tired of this worthless analogy. Automobiles have gotten to the point where they are mass produced on a factory line, mostly by machines, and also are regulated by government and worldwide organizations for everything from safety to function. So yeah if my brand new, never been used car comes with a broken radio, I'm going to be upset.

Also, how old are mmo's in general? About 20 years if that? Hmm I wonder how many vehicles created 20 years after their invention came out into the world flawless.

So please just stop it already with the car analogies.

A car is still a product. Nonetheless. If you don't like the post using "car", replace it with mouse/keyboard. Being such a smart person to know all this, you should be able to grasp the idea rather than disagreeing with the whole post just because there's a car analogy.

I bet you have yet to visit or audit a car manufacturer before. Just to share a simple fact, regardless of how many machines involved, the workers hired do not just sit and press buttons. They are involved in the assembly of the cars actively. The machines miss out parts, are inaccurate and requires calibration, and humans are there to make sure their product doesn't go wrong. There's a reason why handmade goods by professionals cost more than machines, it's authentic, it's unique, and there is more attention to detail. Flaws are also minimised. Mass production isn't even a point, margin of error is higher with mass production, this is one single product that we all share. Just one. All employees are working on ONE product. And they can't get it right.

MMO began around mid 70's. The first few were Zork, Adventure, Maze War, and the MUD genre. It has been 40 years.

Also, there was a burst of technological advancement during the last 2 decades in case you are not aware.

Also, handheld mobile phones were made around the 70's as well. 90's came the GSM, by 2010, 4G is already here. That's how fast the world evolves. And yes, GSM is pretty flawless products if you ask me, they remain functional if you decide to buy a classic phone. Will you be upset if a button is missing from your new cell phone? Yes, you would.

Riptide

Aeradon wrote: »

I acknowledge that this is a fantastic game. I also wish to point out that I'm a big fan of ESO. I strongly believe in the potential of this game, and I really love the general idea of having the ES franchise approach the MMO scene.

Started reading with the mouse wheel at this point. Gracious, where do people get this kind of time.

I defend this game, insofar as I think most of the people who get bent out of shape just either didn't live through the early MMO days or have forgotten it. But I don't go out of my way to chant songs about it or anything.

If someone doesn't dig the game, well hell, there are plenty more out there. And nothing wrong with playin one of em a while then checking back in a few months. Why all the damned drama? The gnashing of teeth and so forth?

Just do what is fun and lay off the caffeine all the way around, in my opinion. That goes for the angry slam their fist on the table to the folks who, left to their own devices, would post powerpoints and excel sheets on here to show us all whats what.

Eivar

Aeradon wrote: »

MMO began around mid 70's. The first few were Zork, Adventure, Maze War, and the MUD genre. It has been 40 years.

MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online, Zork and the like were none of those, they were text based adventures, MUDs(mucks, moos, etc) were the first step towards MMOs, I think an apt name would be MORPG(omitting the massively). But yes your basic logic holds, the mmo genre was based on the text based adventure made multiplayer, and with 3d tech was made into the form we see now.

Blackwidow

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

While an insightful post, Op, I will say one thing:

I come to the forums to discuss features and design decisions. When I actually have an issue, or something I directly want to feedback, I do not do so on the forums. When I have a complaint, I do not do so on the forums.

Great. That is your choice.

I use recommended in-game /feedback and /bug reports first. At the most, I may go to the Customer Service section of the forums. I honestly don't expect any type of oversight here on the forums from development teams, and to see that it DOES happen (as community manager Jessica is constantly sending our stuff up the chain) is a blessing, but not the standard.

You even admit, it does happen.

If the information is important, there are appropriate ways to handle it. If a player can not or will not use appropriate channels for their problem, then they are someone who is not truly looking for a fix, but instead are looking to create drama and generate hateful feelings. That negative player becomes a 'troll'.

You are being so close minded, you will contradict yourself, to justify the way you think.

The forums are here for conversation about the game. All aspects of the game.

These forums are appropriate channels, like it or not.

And yes, I'm saying any complaint post on these General Discussion forums is, by it's very nature, a troll thread.

You can have that opinion, but you might want to keep it to yourself.

To call others trolls is in fact against forum rules. Which makes your post the one thing you are fighting against, which are troll posts.

Just FYI.

Have a nice day.

Blackwidow

Aeradon wrote: »

MMO began around mid 70's. The first few were Zork, Adventure, Maze War, and the MUD genre. It has been 40 years.

The first PC MMO was Meridian 59 in 1996. Just FYI.

Zork was a single player text adventure. Hardly a MMO.

DeLindsay

Blackwidow wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

MMO began around mid 70's. The first few were Zork, Adventure, Maze War, and the MUD genre. It has been 40 years.

The first PC MMO was Meridian 59 in 1996. Just FYI.

Zork was a single player text adventure. Hardly a MMO.

Zork was not only a single player game, it was text based and it WAS available for user boards to play together, yes it was a MORPG not MMORPG. You would call a board with your 2400 Baud modem (you had to know the phone number) and "connect" with others doing the same to play the game together. and this was often done on a C64.

Blackwidow

DeLindsay wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Aeradon wrote: »

MMO began around mid 70's. The first few were Zork, Adventure, Maze War, and the MUD genre. It has been 40 years.

The first PC MMO was Meridian 59 in 1996. Just FYI.

Zork was a single player text adventure. Hardly a MMO.

Zork was not only a single player game, it was text based and it WAS available for user boards to play together, yes it was a MORPG not MMORPG. You would call a board with your 2400 Baud modem (you had to know the phone number) and "connect" with others doing the same to play the game together. and this was often done on a C64.

I did not know it was multiplayer. Still, hardly a MMO.

Xenite

Aeradon wrote: »

Maintenance & Fixes
Are the maintenances frequent and professional?
While the maintenance is frequent. It is definitely not professional. Think of this as a job, or your homework.

What's the deadline whenever there is a maintenance?
There isn't a deadline and they could have it done in any amount of time. Vague promises are made and none fulfilled.

New to MMO's I guess. Look at Blizzard almost a decade later they constantly miss maintenance times. Few days ago they was 4 hours past schedule. Happens in EVERY MMO from time to time.

OrangeTheCat

What makes me LOL are the lengthy hater posts. As frustrating as bugs are, it's just a game. Yeah, I spent $60 + subs for it. But that is a tiny amount of money. Not enough to get all hell bent about it. I know on occasion I've posted my frustrations, but I just gotta laugh at the extent to which some of them go to.

The energy that is spent hating on this game would be better spent on raising awareness to (and this is for US readers; insert your own country's issues here) the continual erosion of our Consititutional rights, our fiat monetary system, the 1% vs the 99%, our general kleptocracy and crony capitalist system. Just to name a few.

Mablung

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

The energy that is spent hating on this game would be better spent on raising awareness to (and this is for US readers; insert your own country's issues here) the continual erosion of our Consititutional rights, our fiat monetary system, the 1% vs the 99%, our general kleptocracy and crony capitalist system. Just to name a few.

Aeradon

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

What makes me LOL are the lengthy hater posts. As frustrating as bugs are, it's just a game. Yeah, I spent $60 + subs for it. But that is a tiny amount of money. Not enough to get all hell bent about it. I know on occasion I've posted my frustrations, but I just gotta laugh at the extent to which some of them go to.

The energy that is spent hating on this game would be better spent on raising awareness to (and this is for US readers; insert your own country's issues here) the continual erosion of our Consititutional rights, our fiat monetary system, the 1% vs the 99%, our general kleptocracy and crony capitalist system. Just to name a few.

Sad to say, some countries shut down their resident's voice and provide "democracy" in the way they wish it to be. They do, however, import ideas and products from the states. Hence, if this post could improve the quality of US products, I'll enjoy the benefit as well.

I'm not hating the game. I'm disappointed with the services I received. It's just like when you buy a cup of coffee and it tastes like water, you don't hate the coffee, you hate the guy who made it.

Sure, a dollar or two won't make your day worse, but I believe the guy who served you deserve to get a earful. Well, it's been two months and multiple "fixes". Say you have visited the same shop once a week, because its your regular hangout and that dude is new. You told him multiple times that you want your coffee better, to kickstart your day. Yet he fix the coffee by adding sugar and nothing else. This dude's attitude may earn him a coffee stained shirt without surprising anyone.


Oh yeah, that confident talk about finally finding the root of issue and the FPS hot fix that ZOS just pushed? It made it worse.

BrassRazoo

Apart from my Hirelings seem to be on strike at present or trapped in a level 1 wasteland with nothing decent to collect and FPS in PvP , which I don't play much of anyway, it's business as usual for me and has been since beta / early access.
Basically to anyone that is that concerned or disappointed about the state of the game, and who has little power but to write a novel on the forums, I would suggest to just leave and move on.
Life's too short to be that worried about a game.