yelloweyedemon wrote: »It is really ridiculous to see any class running faster in stealth than a Nightblade just because of this one passive vampire skill.
I know that NB's are not supposed to be an assassin typical MMO class, but since they rely SO much on stealth and stealth openers in pvp (for burst damage at least), they should have the best sneak in game. (Both Speed and stealth level).
Currently the vampire passive eliminates the sneak speed debuff, and gives you full speed while sneaking. That needs to be changed to be simillar to Concealed Weapon (NB skill) which increases sneak speed by 25%.
PS: There's also a 5 set bonus that acts just like the vampire passive, and it is on light armour ...
Vampires shouldn't be allowed to "run" in stealth. It needs reduced in potency.
Vampires shouldn't be allowed to "run" in stealth. It needs reduced in potency.
It doesn't need any change but all of this talk may be moot if the recent change to Night's Silence set was intended and (once they get it actually working) will make having Vampire for the sneak bonus almost useless. So basically this has turned out to be another thread about 'nerf Vamps dey too op yo'.
There is no CLASS that runs faster in stealth than a NB. Vampire is no class, it is an ability line EVERYBODY and therefore YOU too can skill. If you feel that you have to run as fast as a vampire, you should become a vampire. If you don't want to be a vampire, so you will be slower than them. Take it or leave it.yelloweyedemon wrote: »It is really ridiculous to see any class running faster in stealth than a Nightblade just because of this one passive vampire skill.
Morticielle wrote: »There is no CLASS that runs faster in stealth than a NB. Vampire is no class, it is an ability line EVERYBODY and therefore YOU too can skill. If you feel that you have to run as fast as a vampire, you should become a vampire. If you don't want to be a vampire, so you will be slower than them. Take it or leave it.yelloweyedemon wrote: »It is really ridiculous to see any class running faster in stealth than a Nightblade just because of this one passive vampire skill.
I can not see, that you are in ANY way disadvantaged by that. Stop crying for nerfs. I can't stand this "nerf this, nerf that!"-*** in this forum anymore. People get a little frustrated and first thing they do is opening a "Nerf XYZ!"-thread here in the forum. I really wonder how those people get through real life without crying their eyes out.
yelloweyedemon wrote: »2 out of 3 skill lines of NB, require stealth and sneaking to be played properly. No other class has that requirement.
Vampire should be something optional. No NB's should be forced to become a vampire just because they have the best sneaking speed in game which is coming only from one passive.
Not at all. it is only you that are limiting yourself by reading it that way....
"you have 2 skill lines that get HUGE bonuses from stealth" should be the way you read it. they don't require stealth. YOU require stealth... theonly thing you could say is that lots of skills require to be in melee range.
if you bet that much on the opener, you will lose every fight you make when your opener fails (block, dodge, CC, detected...) or when you get an add.
you are not forced to become a vampire. you have a choice to get an additionnal bonus to stealth, by trading your damage and fire sensitivity for it.
you don't need that speed. you are just envious and jealous of it. just get it, and be done with it.
you want the bonus without the trade off, that much is obvious.
yelloweyedemon wrote: »2 out of 3 skill lines of NB, require stealth and sneaking to be played properly. No other class has that requirement.
Vampire should be something optional. No NB's should be forced to become a vampire just because they have the best sneaking speed in game which is coming only from one passive.
Not at all. it is only you that are limiting yourself by reading it that way....
"you have 2 skill lines that get HUGE bonuses from stealth" should be the way you read it. they don't require stealth. YOU require stealth... theonly thing you could say is that lots of skills require to be in melee range.
if you bet that much on the opener, you will lose every fight you make when your opener fails (block, dodge, CC, detected...) or when you get an add.
you are not forced to become a vampire. you have a choice to get an additionnal bonus to stealth, by trading your damage and fire sensitivity for it.
you don't need that speed. you are just envious and jealous of it. just get it, and be done with it.
you want the bonus without the trade off, that much is obvious.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »On my vampire character, I'm a little upset that 2 skillpoints of health regen improvement don't function. So not only do Fire powers, Silver Shards and Fighters Guild abilities hit me like a truck, but additionally I have no health regen. The health regen does make a difference, and the fact the skillpoints are a big waste is a letdown. I'm fine with Vampires having the stealth passive, in my view its one of the big draws to that race. I do agree that a character should be able to acquire that same kind of speed via enchantments. I think this would remove any problems. Enchantments and Potions were always a way to make yourself more versatile in TES games. IF your race was good at XYZ, you often didn't pick up more of those enchantments (apart from maybe capping that effect) and instead picked other things to round out your style. In this manner, I think a stealth speed boost enchantment would be fantastic.