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Update and Add-ons - what a pain

scratchnsniff
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Why do we lose all our setting when an update is performed?
Why do all the Add-ons go out of date?

I love the add-on system, but sometimes it is a pain.

Is there a way to prevent this?
They call me the magic man.
*** Now you see me***
*** Now you don't ***
  • Rosveen
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    That's how add-ons works. They're created for a specific version of the game, when the game is updated the changes may affect the add-on's functionality. Earlier, when ZOS was figuring out their stance on API, entire add-ons were rendered useless. So just wait until the authors check if something's different and release the update version - sometimes just with a different build number. But they usually still work, so you can tick the "allow outdated add-ons" box and keep using them.
    Edited by Rosveen on June 24, 2014 10:58PM
  • MasterWarrior
    This is the first time I lost my settings and I had lots of settings. I even have backups and those don't even work either. I have been playing since March 30 and I have 21 addons. The Wykkyd Framework being the one that is a major pain to set up because I like it a certain way. I love the add on and not the fault of the author in anyway and I hope the author continues the good work but yeah all my adds on got reset. I have to set up all over again. :(
  • Rosveen
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    Hmm. You're right, losing all settings is indeed unusual.
  • Teevesnacks
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    Meh

    Experienced this with major updates in world of warcraft, was a bit of a pain to re-configure but whatever
  • scratchnsniff
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    I found it weird that ZOS made us agree again to the CoC before we were allowed to access the add on menu. I wonder if they are going to start the crack down on Add-ons.

    I enjoy the game, but the add-ons make it so much better. I hope they don't start taking them away.
    Not to mention half of them don't work, had to disable them.
    Edited by scratchnsniff on June 24, 2014 11:12PM
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
    *** Now you don't ***
  • Sotales
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    Happened to me as well with this and the last patch.
  • runagate
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    The new ToS agreement surprised me as well. I imagine they're sick of ZrMiniMap and ESOhead causing so many headaches.
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  • scratchnsniff
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    runagate wrote: »
    The new ToS agreement surprised me as well. I imagine they're sick of ZrMiniMap and ESOhead causing so many headaches.

    This is EXACTLY what I was thinking!!
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    My bank addon isn't working... I'm going to cry
    "nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors

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  • dbishop
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    ZR mini map broken this morning. <sadface>
  • Rosveen
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    My bank addon isn't working... I'm going to cry
    Which one? Bank addons are essential. :o

    Damn it, I won't be able to check anything until they're done with the EU maintenance... That's another half a day.
    Edited by Rosveen on June 25, 2014 12:05AM
  • scratchnsniff
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    dbishop wrote: »
    ZR mini map broken this morning. <sadface>

    HaHa
    ZRMM was broken a long time ago. :)
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
    *** Now you don't ***
  • AstroCat
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    Yeah most of my addons are done for... hoping they can be fixed. :(
  • dbishop
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    Had to disable them all as I can't work out which ones are broken and which ones are ok. Give it a day or two and hopefully most of them will be patched up.
  • scratchnsniff
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    dbishop wrote: »
    Had to disable them all as I can't work out which ones are broken and which ones are ok. Give it a day or two and hopefully most of them will be patched up.

    Most of Wykkyd's stuff works. FTC works, Light Weight MM works
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
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  • mumok
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    Well this update broke Guild Store Search(which is a must have!) and Souschef. If I don't disable them I get endless error messages.
  • Dominoid
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    mumok wrote: »
    Well this update broke Guild Store Search(which is a must have!) and Souschef. If I don't disable them I get endless error messages.

    Me too.
  • scratchnsniff
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    tervalas wrote: »
    Hi guys! I'm an addon developer and I'd like you to know that the official API change during this patch, while somewhat expected, was not really put out by ZO to the developer community. Most of us didn't get patched until mid to late afternoon because of downtime and I'm sure others will be posting updates as soon as they can.

    Addons I have that I had to temporarily disable: ZrMiniMap, Librarian, InventoryMod.

    We cannot help the settings resets this time. Sorry about that.

    I understand. Not blaming you. Just wish there was a way to keep our settings and not have to redo everything each major patch.

    I love the addons and wouldn't like the game as much with out them.
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
    *** Now you don't ***
  • Rev Rielle
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    Yes, I don't use many addons, but one I really like is the True Exploration one (Where you map is only uncovered as your character explores). It's a shame all that information gets lost with updates :disappointed:
    ~
  • Phinix1
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    Keep addon settings with patch 1.2.3

    Some of the format for SavedVariables changed. Also, the game isn't reading/inserting @AccountName in the addon config files for some reason.

    By following these instructions (making the backup first as indicated), everything should work, unless the addon needs an update like the ones I specifically mention.

    When the game figures out what it is supposed to do the @AccountName will get automatically inserted and things will continue to work (without you noticing it was put back in).
    Edited by Phinix1 on June 25, 2014 4:10AM
    My Addons (@Phinix_ESO - PC NA Megaserver):
    ESO Master Recipe List - SALTI - Dungeon Tracker - Poison Master - Vampire's Woe - Chat Window Manager ... (more)
    Also co-author for: Azurah - Srendarr - FastReport Continued - Show Motifs - Combat Cloud
    Other stuff: Phinix Addon-Powered UI - MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL

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    - General Hammond, Stargate SG1, Episode 7x17: Heroes, Part 1.
  • lycanslerwb17_ESO
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    The only mod working for me is one that shows ongoing quests.
  • Phinix1
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    Did you follow my instructions? I'll do a video in a sec to show how...
    My Addons (@Phinix_ESO - PC NA Megaserver):
    ESO Master Recipe List - SALTI - Dungeon Tracker - Poison Master - Vampire's Woe - Chat Window Manager ... (more)
    Also co-author for: Azurah - Srendarr - FastReport Continued - Show Motifs - Combat Cloud
    Other stuff: Phinix Addon-Powered UI - MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL

    "Cameras don't just record things, they change what they record simply by being there."
    - General Hammond, Stargate SG1, Episode 7x17: Heroes, Part 1.
  • scratchnsniff
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    Did you follow my instructions? I'll do a video in a sec to show how...

    Aliendiplomat,

    I watched ur ui video the other night, I implemented some of the addons you suggested. It was great.

    The problem for me was I got home, sat down and logged in. Did look at the forums. I lost all settings.

    I have two add one like loot drop and azurah that dont even work. Azurah doesn't even show up in the add on menu.

    Ideas?
    They call me the magic man.
    *** Now you see me***
    *** Now you don't ***
  • Phinix1
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    Here is a video that shows you how to update your settings files so all your addon settings carry over to patch 1.2.3:

    How to update addon settings to work with patch 1.2.3

    Some addons will need to be updated by the authors so if you get any addon-specific errors you still want to disable those until they are updated. However, this will at least let you keep your settings for the ones that work.

    @scratchnsniff - Azurah *sort of* works if you ignore the error and follow the instructions in the video, though the positioning part seems broken.

    LootDrop needs an update as it gives errors currently whenever you loot. Hopefully that will be fixed in the next days.
    My Addons (@Phinix_ESO - PC NA Megaserver):
    ESO Master Recipe List - SALTI - Dungeon Tracker - Poison Master - Vampire's Woe - Chat Window Manager ... (more)
    Also co-author for: Azurah - Srendarr - FastReport Continued - Show Motifs - Combat Cloud
    Other stuff: Phinix Addon-Powered UI - MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL

    "Cameras don't just record things, they change what they record simply by being there."
    - General Hammond, Stargate SG1, Episode 7x17: Heroes, Part 1.
  • Halrloprillalar
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    My bank addon isn't working... I'm going to cry
    Which one? Bank addons are essential. :o

    Damn it, I won't be able to check anything until they're done with the EU maintenance... That's another half a day.

    the auto stash and retrieve addon (BankManager) doesn't even show up in the settings interface anymore

    THE HORROR
    "nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors

    Are you the rabbit or the headlight?

    The Morinth hungers
  • Sharee
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    Why do all the Add-ons go out of date?

    For the same reason the calendar on your desktop goes out of date after new year's eve ;-)

  • GrfxGawd
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    As a gamer, and a very minor addon utility developer I created a fairly sizeable post concerning this. You can find it here. Was this some sort of demonstration?
    The TOS addon and utility specific agreement, settings files and data I can only guess intentionally toasted. At minimum, there was no warning given to the community. The lack of API change information. Yes, changes happen, addons break - but this was something I haven't quite experienced in decades of gaming. I'm left not knowing what to think.
    You know, I was once an optimistic gamer just like you. Then I took a patch to the game client from Zenimax.
  • mumok
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    This game is a husk without the addons.
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