NB Trials DPS : 1.2k first 2 bosses, 910 3rd.

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Rotation is pretty simple. Start fight with caltrops. Resto staff / light armor.

Edit: The Mage is missing as I was healing this run on that boss.

Stats:
2401 Magicka
3x +13 spell damage necklaces
53% spellcrit

Aether 3set, Willows 3set

Boss1 1203 DPS:
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Boss2 1160 DPS:
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Boss3 902 DPS:
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Why post this? So that NBs get the love they deserve in trials groups. Also - besides broken abilities, that the class is in solid shape DPS wise. Veil is ultra useful as damage mitigation and is arguably the best ult in the game after the nerf of standard.
Edited by Nuitar on June 17, 2014 8:58AM
  • Teevesnacks
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    Jeezus what happened to your graphics
  • Aeradon
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    This one likes the screenshot. This one is pleased to see a fellow NB Mac user getting high DPS.
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  • ArRashid
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    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.
  • Nuitar
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    Jeezus what happened to your graphics

    I'm playing ESO on a macbook air, not plugged in, in bed, running TS.

    Gfx lag hurts DPS :persevere:
  • Gilvoth
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    great for you. now lets talk about duel wield dagger stamina and bow using nightblades. they are the total oppisite of the sorcerer nightblade you have created here. and we do very very little dps and we die very very easy.
  • Nuitar
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    That is a dual wield/dagger/stamina/bow problem. NOT a Nightblade problem.

    Yes, I have 50 of each of those skills as well.
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    What is the add on for the dps pop ups?
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    ArRashid wrote: »
    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.

    Yea, pretty much covered it.
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  • Prokonto
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    What is the add on for the dps pop ups?

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  • Hilgara
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    ArRashid wrote: »
    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.

    Jezzus I'm getting sick of this.... So otherwise, unless he's wearing the exact same terrible armour you are and using the exact same crappy abilities in exactly the same ineffective order then his DPS isn't valid?

    If you need to achieve something you can either work harder, smarter or sit on your backside demanding it be delivered to you.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    Hilgara wrote: »
    ArRashid wrote: »
    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.

    Jezzus I'm getting sick of this.... So otherwise, unless he's wearing the exact same terrible armour you are and using the exact same crappy abilities in exactly the same ineffective order then his DPS isn't valid?

    If you need to achieve something you can either work harder, smarter or sit on your backside demanding it be delivered to you.

    Not the point he was making but do keep up your attitude, it's kind of amusing.
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

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  • OkieDokie
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    Well done. Just as a curiosity, what was your group members dps?
    Edited by OkieDokie on June 17, 2014 10:55AM
    People keep saying they heard of a friend of friend of friend of their neighbors that plays a NB and can catch up with dks and sorcs and this guy just never shows up. He would be a rock star if he existed.
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    Are you wearing all 7 piece light armor or have you gone 5/7 with 2 med piece?
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  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Jeezus what happened to your graphics

    It's a Mac.
  • tino.antoninieb17_ESO
    GZ on dps result. Thanks for your post . U are proving that things are moving ahead. Thats good news and that is important. It is really big thing that NB's stop to be unwanted step child.
    Bad news is that still we dont have info on improvements regarding stamina driven dps output - which is partially matter of NB class skills as well ( or might be ).
    Simply put - a lot of people love to play melee . Besides that they want to be effective and efficient at least as next guy to them .
    That will bring versatility to this game and satisfy a large chunk of playerbase.
  • Prokonto
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    great for you. now lets talk about duel wield dagger stamina and bow using nightblades. they are the total oppisite of the sorcerer nightblade you have created here. and we do very very little dps and we die very very easy.
    Nuitar wrote: »
    That is a dual wield/dagger/stamina/bow problem. NOT a Nightblade problem.

    Yes, I have 50 of each of those skills as well.

    so follow u logic point that u dps is resto/destro/lightarmor matter not NB class.
    ArRashid wrote: »
    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.

    this...

    edit: this all gives one truth: equip any class with staf/light & it will be usable. any other option is gimping uself
    thats real problem here...
    Edited by Prokonto on June 17, 2014 11:14AM
  • bugulu
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    The OP posted a way for Nightblades to be viable in trials.
    Whether you follow his advice and go staff/light armor or stick your head where the sun never shines is your own problem.

    Face it, stamina builds are inferior to magicka builds and it's probably gonna stay this way for couple of months. I don't like it but sometimes you will have to adapt if you want to do specific content. If you still refuse to adapt then that's sadly your problem.

    Zenimax can't wave a wand and make stamina builds viable within a week.
    Edited by bugulu on June 17, 2014 11:15AM
  • Prokonto
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    magicka build is not only staves & light... u can use it with dw too with succes. but stamina builds is useless atm thats fact
  • tino.antoninieb17_ESO
    bugulu wrote: »
    The OP posted a way for Nightblades to be viable in trials.
    Whether you follow his advice and go staff/light armor or stick your head where the sun never shines is your own problem.

    Face it, stamina builds are inferior to magicka builds and it's probably gonna stay this way for couple of months. I don't like it but sometimes you will have to adapt if you want to do specific content. If you still refuse to adapt then that's sadly your problem.

    Zenimax can't wave a wand and make stamina builds viable within a week.

    I agree that one week is not enough but we are not speaking here one week. Its almost 80 days since release (if we forget beta period) and they came out of closet with statement that they are aware of that problem just couple days ago . I agree, robes and staffs are only option for next period but still i really dont feel sympathy for those guys who screwed all things up at first place. Everything will be much easier if they communicate properly and we can plan some things.
    This issue is not like one quest is not working or something like that.
    With this imbalance all quests , content, craglorn or anything else is simply not working coz people are not what they want to be while playing. Thats why this issue should have highest priority in grand scheme of things.
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    bugulu wrote: »
    The OP posted a way for Nightblades to be viable in trials.
    Whether you follow his advice and go staff/light armor or stick your head where the sun never shines is your own problem.

    Face it, stamina builds are inferior to magicka builds and it's probably gonna stay this way for couple of months. I don't like it but sometimes you will have to adapt if you want to do specific content. If you still refuse to adapt then that's sadly your problem.

    Zenimax can't wave a wand and make stamina builds viable within a week.

    I agree that one week is not enough but we are not speaking here one week. Its almost 80 days since release (if we forget beta period) and they came out of closet with statement that they are aware of that problem just couple days ago . I agree, robes and staffs are only option for next period but still i really dont feel sympathy for those guys who screwed all things up at first place. Everything will be much easier if they communicate properly and we can plan some things.
    This issue is not like one quest is not working or something like that.
    With this imbalance all quests , content, craglorn or anything else is simply not working coz people are not what they want to be while playing. Thats why this issue should have highest priority in grand scheme of things.

    Perhaps i am remembering incorrectly, but weren't the first week or 2 after launch full of nurf bow damage, bow is the best, bow is broken post? It took a bit for everyone to come to the same conclusion, stamina builds have issues.

    So to say it has been so and so since launch and not including beta, seems a little, wrong?
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    It is so easy to farm Aether set to become usefull in trials when you not invited into trials :)
  • Soulac
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    How did you get 2400 Magicka and 1600 Stamina?

    I got around 2000 Magicka and 1600 Stamina O.o

    Could you tell me your Enchants and stats?
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  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Hilgara wrote: »
    ArRashid wrote: »
    That's the dps any class can do while they wear robes and staff and abuse animation canceling exploit :s NB is still broken.

    Jezzus I'm getting sick of this.... So otherwise, unless he's wearing the exact same terrible armour you are and using the exact same crappy abilities in exactly the same ineffective order then his DPS isn't valid?

    If you need to achieve something you can either work harder, smarter or sit on your backside demanding it be delivered to you.

    Yea, every single other combination attempted will suck bad in comparison to the mage setup, light armor/resto staff, and everyone should just bow down and accept this obvious balance flaw. Thats not even working harder, its going the path of least resistance.

    You can be sick of the truth all you want, but being forced to be a wizzard for any class to be thier best is not the way the game should be handled.
    Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on June 17, 2014 3:25PM
  • WilliamTee
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    What nightblade abilities are actually used here?

    And anyone have a link to the resto/cloth build for dps for when i finally cave and decide to jump on the bandwagon?
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    WilliamTee wrote: »
    What nightblade abilities are actually used here?

    And anyone have a link to the resto/cloth build for dps for when i finally cave and decide to jump on the bandwagon?

    If you look at his bar

    4 out of 5 of his abilities are nightblade abilities, along with the nightblade ult.

    We've been saying for over a month now, Caster NB's are the best DPS in the game, most of the Euro's are running Caster NB's in their Trial Groups.

    NB's still think they're bad though because Stamina Build sucks, and here's the kicker,NB's have the best Stamina Build setup in the game, So not only are you superior DPS as Caster builds, you're Superior as Stamina Build as well, even though Stamina Builds are bad all around.
    Edited by Xsorus on June 17, 2014 9:35PM
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    I would agree its all about the stamina builds being &^%$#@ up at the moment. I will ride it out before I switch my weapon and armor to staff/light just so I can get in a couple of trials they call end game. I mean 2 trials that if done right wont last more then the time it takes to take a dump.

    No thanks. I will just keep playing another game and popping in every other day to run a few things in the grind that is VR levels and do some PvP. At least this way I wont get so bored with trials that I no longer even want to play the game.

    Tho if zenifuncomax don't get their ^&%$ together I will be gone after my 6 month sub is done.
    Edited by arrowzagub17_ESO on June 17, 2014 3:51PM
  • ArRashid
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    Soulac wrote: »
    How did you get 2400 Magicka and 1600 Stamina?

    I got around 2000 Magicka and 1600 Stamina O.o

    Could you tell me your Enchants and stats?

    +8% magicka from NB passive
    +2% magicka from Mages Guild passive
    +10% magicka from racial (provided he plays breton or high elf)

    that's +20%, pretty good base for overcharging.

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    What class is Dirty? He pumped out 1325 in the first fight.
  • Vuron
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    ArRashid wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    How did you get 2400 Magicka and 1600 Stamina?

    I got around 2000 Magicka and 1600 Stamina O.o

    Could you tell me your Enchants and stats?

    +8% magicka from NB passive
    +2% magicka from Mages Guild passive
    +10% magicka from racial (provided he plays breton or high elf)

    that's +20%, pretty good base for overcharging.

    Plus food.
  • WilliamTee
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    WilliamTee wrote: »
    What nightblade abilities are actually used here?

    And anyone have a link to the resto/cloth build for dps for when i finally cave and decide to jump on the bandwagon?

    If you look at his bar

    4 out of 5 of his abilities are nightblade abilities, along with the nightblade ult.

    We've been saving for over a month now, Caster NB's are the best DPS in the game, most of the Euro's are running Caster NB's in their Trial Groups.

    NB's still think they're bad though because Stamina Build sucks, and here's the kicker,NB's have the best Stamina Build setup in the game, So not only are you superior DPS as Caster builds, you're Superior as Stamina Build as well, even though Stamina Builds are bad all around.

    @xsorusb14_ESO‌ Yeah, i'm not great at recognising the symbols yet as I haven't seen all the morphs... I'm just trying to work out what's used.

    Never mind the fact i have like 0 resto staff at the minute :p
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