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NB just killed me in about 4 seconds

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About 2 of the seconds i was layying flat on the ground because he got me out of stealth, by the time I got up and was able to do anything I was dead.

we're both v12, I have full purple gear, im a sword and board dk tank. How did I die so quickly?

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  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Do you have more than 2.5k health? Do you have impenetrable on your gear?
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  • Valn
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    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Do you have more than 2.5k health? Do you have impenetrable on your gear?

    2.6k health, all pieces are impenetrable.

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    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

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    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 10:13AM

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    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    I see a trend here. Now you know your own personal weakness, you need to work on dealing with stealth attacks and stuns. Try magelight if you are traveling alone and need to find people in stealth. ---- Which if you are running around Cyrodiil solo, stealth is always a smart way to go, even for a DK.
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    my stats qqoftj.jpg

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    Valn wrote: »
    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?
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    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?

    not after i fell of my horse nope.

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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no oher damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.
    If the first one was cast in stealth, the second one could proc from the fury which was also the finisher with weapon attacks weaved in.
    Edited by cjmarsh725b14_ESO on June 10, 2014 10:55AM
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no other damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    You died fast, no doubt, just not in 3 seconds. But that goes for Anyone knocked off their house if they don:t heal fast.

    If you read the tooltip it says 35% chance to make next use instant cast and cost 50% less magicka
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 10:22AM

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    Also that is what Stamina horses are good for --- or at least ones with enough Stamina to take an attack, giving you a chance to dismount or try your luck pressing on.
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    Valn, I would suggest you make a thread titled "Nerf animation canceling" and recruit a bunch of similarly killed people to agree with the sentiment. In this way, after you get a few hundred posts about it, you may actually get animation canceling fixed :)
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    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?

    not after i fell of my horse nope.
    Ahh yes, there's a built-in stun from being knocked off a horse I think. I don't think you can break out of it, and it's a solid reason to run with a group or dismount and stealth before entering contested areas. If you manage to see someone right before they strike, use an instant ability to dismount right away instead of using the dismount key.

    I'd just come out of the gate (near where the temple is) which was closed and we had about 5 keeps close to the main base so i didnt expect that area to be contested.

    You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all

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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no other damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    You died fast, no doubt, just not in 3 seconds. But that goes for Anyone knocked off their house if they don:t heal fast.

    If you read the tooltip it says 35% chance to make next use instant cast and cost 50% less magicka

    Yes but where is the other damage spell that proc'ed the instacast, which was my point earlier.
    v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
    v14 DK Costs
    v14 NB 'Vis
    v14 Temp Fiat Lux

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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no other damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    You died fast, no doubt, just not in 3 seconds. But that goes for Anyone knocked off their house if they don:t heal fast.

    If you read the tooltip it says 35% chance to make next use instant cast and cost 50% less magicka

    Yes but where is the other damage spell that proc'ed the instacast, which was my point earlier.

    ...crystal fragments proc'ed the instacast...

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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no other damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    You died fast, no doubt, just not in 3 seconds. But that goes for Anyone knocked off their house if they don:t heal fast.

    If you read the tooltip it says 35% chance to make next use instant cast and cost 50% less magicka

    Yes but where is the other damage spell that proc'ed the instacast, which was my point earlier.

    shards can proc shards, or he could have just killed someone else before killing him
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    Valn wrote: »
    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?

    not after i fell of my horse nope.
    Ahh yes, there's a built-in stun from being knocked off a horse I think. I don't think you can break out of it, and it's a solid reason to run with a group or dismount and stealth before entering contested areas. If you manage to see someone right before they strike, use an instant ability to dismount right away instead of using the dismount key.

    I'd just come out of the gate (near where the temple is) which was closed and we had about 5 keeps close to the main base so i didnt expect that area to be contested.

    You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all
    I never called you a whiner. I don't enjoy getting ganked by nightblades any more than you do.
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    Had it been after killing someone else it would not have been an ambush and that heavy attack would not have hit so hard. And shards CANNOT proc shards.
    v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
    v14 DK Costs
    v14 NB 'Vis
    v14 Temp Fiat Lux

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  • Valn
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    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    ViciousWayz wrote: »
    Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.

    Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
    The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?

    not after i fell of my horse nope.
    Ahh yes, there's a built-in stun from being knocked off a horse I think. I don't think you can break out of it, and it's a solid reason to run with a group or dismount and stealth before entering contested areas. If you manage to see someone right before they strike, use an instant ability to dismount right away instead of using the dismount key.

    I'd just come out of the gate (near where the temple is) which was closed and we had about 5 keeps close to the main base so i didnt expect that area to be contested.

    You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all
    I never called you a whiner. I don't enjoy getting ganked by nightblades any more than you do.

    Fair enough i got owned by a nightblade but from a sorc who actually killed me QUICKER is just ridiculous.

    I have no idea how he managed to hit 445 on me. My hardest hitting ability is only 302 damage, and im melee. Ranged is obviously dominant in this game

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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no other damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    You died fast, no doubt, just not in 3 seconds. But that goes for Anyone knocked off their house if they don:t heal fast.

    If you read the tooltip it says 35% chance to make next use instant cast and cost 50% less magicka

    Yes but where is the other damage spell that proc'ed the instacast, which was my point earlier.

    ...crystal fragments proc'ed the instacast...

    *Face Palm*
    v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
    v14 DK Costs
    v14 NB 'Vis
    v14 Temp Fiat Lux

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