So - another game breaker - Getting tired of this

bitaken

This morning EP led a raid to take a DC scroll on Wabba. They took DC..then Glade..then Warden and grabbed the scroll. I managed to recap Dragonclaw with a group of 11 and then we intercepted the scroll carrying group. We managed to kill the scroll carrier. However, the location he died in was mid air. No one could pick the scroll up. We wiped out the entire EP force - defended dragonclaw since no one could pick the scroll up - and after about 10 minutes of DC and EP trying to pick the scroll up - EP managed to get it picked up and since have captured it.

This is absolutely a game breaker for me. Not angry we lost the scroll. Angry we executed a counter measure - and because of a BUG where the scroll was in mid air - our countermeasure was nullified.

At this point you guys have to just take the live servers off line and figure this stuff out. I am really tired of playing a beta version of the game.

AVA is about offensive and defensive strategies. We executed a strategy perfectly and played it out. However, due to this bug we were unable to reap the satisfaction of a scroll return.

Seriously.

Grats to EP for taking the scroll - they did not exploit to get it - and AD helped them out by bringing it to bleakers - which is all good. That's the game. However, it should have been returned if the 50 or so DC standing there had been able to pick the darn thing up.

Fix the game already please.

Zepheric

Honestly instead of complaining on the forums, constructing well thought out detailed reports in /feedback about what happened might just get you a fix. It's likely something they haven't heard about, these forum rants are just unnecessary.

wllstrt75b14_ESO

Lmao did you not unlock the floating scroll skill yet?
I don't think this happens often it was probably just glitches which does happen from time to time in most mmo's. If it continues to happen you can get you panties on a bunch.

bitaken

I don't work for ZOS - so well thought out, detailed feedback is really not something I am interested in giving them. If they want me on the payroll monitoring this kind of stuff - hey I'll listen and write them excellent reports.

All kinds of oddities have occurred with scroll runs in the past. I don't wear panties so maybe you need to think about what bunch is where.

Fact: We executed a counter measure. It worked. We succeeded. However, because scrolls are not programmed to fall to the ground and instead sit in mid air - we were unable to return it.

I don't blame EP or AD for this. I am not mad we lost the scroll. They change hands often on Wabba so I'm not really worried about it.

The fact is - this kind of thing takes the fun out of the strategy element of the game.

Do everything just right - still fail because the game is so lack luster. Lack luster meaning - lacking any kind of polish at all.

EliteZ

bitaken wrote: »

I don't work for ZOS - so well thought out, detailed feedback is really not something I am interested in giving them. If they want me on the payroll monitoring this kind of stuff - hey I'll listen and write them excellent reports.

Seriously? Got to be one of the funniest crying posts I've read. "Turn off the live servers and fix this NOW", but hey don't expect me to even give you some idea of what server, what campaign, how it happened, what happened.

No, figure all of that out for yourself as if you was there, BUT DO IT NOW! You don't have time to try and reproduce the issue with no details about it at all, BUT YOU BEST FIX IT NOW!

wllstrt75b14_ESO

I won't argue the polish issue we paying to beta test right now. I would be happy that the tactic succeeded the flag is trivial as you mentioned. It sounds like you guys had a good run and had some fun isn't that the point of the game? There are so many more pressing issues that prevent people from playing...are those not game breaking? This flag issue is far from game breaking.

bitaken

Troll some more. No one is crying. The constant bugs, lag, and issues on Wabba are basically out of control. That's the point.

I have been asking them to take the live servers down for days now.

They really need to rework so much of Cyrodil it cannot possibly be done on the fly.

Pushing everyone into a test environment and forcing certain activities - rewarding players taking part - this needs to be done.

How long is the list now?

1) Keep doors constantly bugging out
2) Mercs become invincible unless you go out of range.
3) Lag is out of control.
4) Weapon swap does not work.
5) Delay in door entry when you can actually hit E to enter.
6) Scroll issues - one listed here.
7) Placing siege - it sometimes fails due to lag - but then you can't place more.
8) Forward camps bugging out.
9) Repairing a postern door wall and then not being able to use that door - until the wall gets knocked down.

Those are just the highlights on my list.

It's basically a joke in AvA - and it's why I came here. People joke about it more than they complain because the whole damn thing is a joke and so many have left the game already because so little is done to fix it.

But - hey - go ahead and troll some more.

wllstrt75b14_ESO

Do you know what trolling is? I merely disagree with the fact that the issue is game breaking when a huge number of layers can't play and a ton of other issues prevent progression.

I understand the issues in wabba I play there but I still have fun there it's the only reason I am still here cause despite the issues you can still be tactical and have fun pvping. The rest of the game is in much more dire conditions. Look at the folks stuck at molag bal..or other progression halting quests those are potential future pvpers that won't make it as a result.

Learn what trolling is and understand bigger pictures.

EliteZ

bitaken wrote: »

Troll some more. No one is crying. The constant bugs, lag, and issues on Wabba are basically out of control. That's the point.

I have been asking them to take the live servers down for days now.

They really need to rework so much of Cyrodil it cannot possibly be done on the fly.

Pushing everyone into a test environment and forcing certain activities - rewarding players taking part - this needs to be done.

How long is the list now?

1) Keep doors constantly bugging out
2) Mercs become invincible unless you go out of range.
3) Lag is out of control.
4) Weapon swap does not work.
5) Delay in door entry when you can actually hit E to enter.
6) Scroll issues - one listed here.
7) Placing siege - it sometimes fails due to lag - but then you can't place more.
8) Forward camps bugging out.
9) Repairing a postern door wall and then not being able to use that door - until the wall gets knocked down.

Those are just the highlights on my list.

It's basically a joke in AvA - and it's why I came here. People joke about it more than they complain because the whole damn thing is a joke and so many have left the game already because so little is done to fix it.

But - hey - go ahead and troll some more.

And taking the live servers down will do what? Make the people that don't even give a crap about PvP leave because their game is taken down for no reason?

How is forcing everyone onto a test server going to solve anything if players, like yourself, are too up their own arse to even submit helpful and descriptive feedback reports to help Zeni narrow down the issue because "it's not their job".

Even then, there are priorities, do you really think a scroll getting stuck in mid air once is game breaking? How many people has this affected since launch? Did it really impact your game not being able to defend your scroll once?

Furthermore, they only have so many people that would be working on this area, so you'd be closing the entire game for EVERY player, so they can fix some issues that would take weeks to troubleshoot, fix, internal test publicly test, put together a patch with a set time/date and then release the patch.

Do you think they are sitting on their ass at the moment thinking ah well we won't work on anything today, let's just leave it until next week. Do you even know how hard/long it can take to actually find out the cause of even a small issue.

It's people like you that really do make me question, what the hell is happening to the people in the world today.

bitaken

wllstrt75b14_ESO wrote: »

Do you know what trolling is? I merely disagree with the fact that the issue is game breaking when a huge number of layers can't play and a ton of other issues prevent progression.

I understand the issues in wabba I play there but I still have fun there it's the only reason I am still here cause despite the issues you can still be tactical and have fun pvping. The rest of the game is in much more dire conditions. Look at the folks stuck at molag bal..or other progression halting quests those are potential future pvpers that won't make it as a result.

Learn what trolling is and understand bigger pictures.

You were really not the troll I was speaking to. I get that there are other issues in the game. The fact that there are so many at this point - makes me wonder. And all they have done has yielded so few results. Thinking they just getting us to pay them to play Beta - and the "Beta" tests were just Alphas.

This Guy:

No, figure all of that out for yourself as if you was there, BUT DO IT NOW! You don't have time to try and reproduce the issue with no details about it at all, BUT YOU BEST FIX IT NOW!

Who did not even read the OP - yeah - he is the troll.

EliteZ

bitaken wrote: »

wllstrt75b14_ESO wrote: »

Do you know what trolling is? I merely disagree with the fact that the issue is game breaking when a huge number of layers can't play and a ton of other issues prevent progression.

I understand the issues in wabba I play there but I still have fun there it's the only reason I am still here cause despite the issues you can still be tactical and have fun pvping. The rest of the game is in much more dire conditions. Look at the folks stuck at molag bal..or other progression halting quests those are potential future pvpers that won't make it as a result.

Learn what trolling is and understand bigger pictures.

You were really not the troll I was speaking to. I get that there are other issues in the game. The fact that there are so many at this point - makes me wonder. And all they have done has yielded so few results. Thinking they just getting us to pay them to play Beta - and the "Beta" tests were just Alphas.

This Guy:

No, figure all of that out for yourself as if you was there, BUT DO IT NOW! You don't have time to try and reproduce the issue with no details about it at all, BUT YOU BEST FIX IT NOW!

Who did not even read the OP - yeah - he is the troll.

Oh I read your posts, all I got from them was the fact that you want the servers to go down for an issue that I've only ever heard about once even though you don't wish to provide them with detailed feedback to actually help them fix the issue.

Reykice

Vote with your wallet. They don`t give a ***..

bitaken

I want the campaign servers to go down. I want them to force everyone - EVERYONE - to play on a test Cyrodil and let them log every damn thing that goes on. ( you know like what was supposed to have happen in the stress test beta event weekend?).

Let them take the logs - schedule events - and let them figure out what is really going on and fix the problems.

Not the PvE servers - I could not care less about PvE in this game.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

I'm done reporting bugs. I'm paying them, they're not paying me to beta test. Sooooo sick of it. They're really kind of pathetic.

wllstrt75b14_ESO

bitaken wrote: »

I want the campaign servers to go down. I want them to force everyone - EVERYONE - to play on a test Cyrodil and let them log every damn thing that goes on. ( you know like what was supposed to have happen in the stress test beta event weekend?).

Let them take the logs - schedule events - and let them figure out what is really going on and fix the problems.

Not the PvE servers - I could not care less about PvE in this game.

thats an interesting idea but I have no confidence in the dev team..we had a beta we reported many bugs and none were fixed. In fact It might even be more buggy right now than it was in Beta.

The development team along with the whole management staff at ZOS are pretty fail to this point.

Now they could redeem themselves and get things figured out but at what cost? How many players have left for good?
It is just sad that we are 2 months in and there are so many issues many of which go back 10 months plus during the Beta.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hey there, everyone. We've passed this along to our team, who are currently looking into a fix for the floating scroll issue. Thanks for the report, @bitaken. We'll let you know if we need any additional information.

Dodece

This glitch is a common byproduct of this particular game design. This is what happens in three dimensional worlds. Things from time to time will get stuck in midair. This problem could be resolved through a two dimensional remodeling of the gaming space, but the consequence of that would be a loss of certain freedoms that gamers have come to expect, and more importantly demand in newer games.

The reality which you fail to grasp is thus. The overwhelming majority of gamers will gladly accept the occasional anomaly such as this. If it means they can have more realistic interactions with their environment. Sure they could stop all such bugs, but nobody wants to trade away their freedom to jump, climb, or make ingenious use of terrain.

Anyway I can about guarantee if you played in a two dimensional world with its reduced degrees of motion. I think you would understand how the occasional stuck in the air glitch just isn't all that bad. Could this problem be solved by yet other means. I suppose it could, but given current technology there would most likely be a tradeoff in overall performance.

We aren't at a point yet technologically speaking where real world fidelity is a real option. Giving all objects appropriate gravity alone would eat up truly vast amounts of processing power. You will have to learn to live with the approximate nature of the code, and sometimes accept that glitches will transpire.

Fairydragon3

is the game buggy? Yes

should it be taken down to fix issues? Please no, some of us can still enjoy our play time. lets not ruin it for everyone else

Niliu

@Fairydragon3‌ the game was not ready for release. taking it down and fixing it before attempting another release would be better than waiting for everyone to get sick of the bugs.

axw_ESO

There are actually live games out there with functional PVP. Might consider investing your passion in one of them. No satisfaction here for you!

bitaken

Seriously - what would be so bad about everyone playing in one Cyrodil?

It would lag like heck during prime time. But - hopefully - they would be able to find what causes the lag - the biggest culprits - and fix them - or adjust things to make the lag bearable.

Also, it would allow them to actually assign a dev to watch when the bugged doors, forward camps etc occur and then potentially fix those issues.

I realize a 3D world has some potential for problems - but players fall and take damage. Why can't the scroll fall too? What would be so hard about coding in the fall system to the scroll?

Look - I am very frustrated about the status of the servers right now. It's not JUST this problem - but this one was like the straw that broke the camel's back.

@GinaBruno - Thanks for the reply - I can only hope that the constant problems are really being examined and that at some point in the near future this game works around 75% better than right now. That will at least be playable - enjoyable - and worth paying for.

Right now I am sorry to say it's not worth paying a sub for.

SoulScream

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Vote with your wallet.

Yep! When bugs are fixed you can come back and feel okay about paying for the game service.

Gillysan

Fortunately a moderator ear marked this one. Ranting here is fine in my book, however you never straight forward answered the question: did you report it?

You can always paste a link to a forum post in-game.

Sorchia

i do see the point though that is kinda game breaking, but i cant say it makes alot more sense then the whole " This is an MMORPG but you cannot group for the main questline quests "

So lemme get this straight, its a massive multiplayer online game, that you cant qroup up to do the main storyline quests in. YES. This makes perfect sense........

bitaken

Gillysan wrote: »

Fortunately a moderator ear marked this one. Ranting here is fine in my book, however you never straight forward answered the question: did you report it?

You can always paste a link to a forum post in-game.

At this point I have: submitted about 40 accounts for spamming my mail box selling gold and in game items online for real money, Reported door bugs, FW Camp bugs, quest bugs, geometry bugs where mobs reset well within their agro radius.....etc etc ad inifitum. I really am done reporting bugs. There are too many both in PvE and PvP - but as I am VR 12 and no longer partake in PvE - I only care about the PvP. I would be absolutely willing to partake in a shut down of all the Campaign servers - and a test Campaign being opened for everyone to play on and report bugs on as long as there were always admins on ready to examine the bug with the player and properly document it and submit it to the devs in a fashion that it can get fixed. Do this for a week - we could have every bug for Cyrodil on a list with the devs and they could really communicate to us whats going on instead of blowing smoke up our collective back sides. Players who do this should be rewarded two weeks free play time and a special in game costume or something else that is vanity based - but not enabling.

Did I bother to report anything for the past two weeks on Wabbajack (AKA Lagajack) well - there is not much point in it is there?

I came here and posted. And a nice customer service rep says they will look into it. Tell me this has never happened and been complained about before...go ahead....I won't believe you. Not with the volume of scrolls that changed hands in the first two months of this game.

Fairydragon3

Niliu wrote: »

@Fairydragon3‌ the game was not ready for release. taking it down and fixing it before attempting another release would be better than waiting for everyone to get sick of the bugs.

thx for the opinion but I disagree