Zenimax=Genius......NOT

jeradlub17_ESO · May 2014

Thunderchief wrote: »

Everytime they bring down the servers during Australian peak hours they should give Australian players 1 day free. They have our billing information. They know who we are.

Or you could recognize you created the problem yourself with your own choice of playing on a NA server. It would make more sense for you to petition for an Oceanic server than to complain they did things on NA time on a NA server.

sskruizer101-elderscrollsrwb17_ESO · May 2014

Just lol, love to hear your comment if they ever took the server down in your precious country during prime time. They take the money from everyone from everywhere dude, not just you from the US.But my bet is, plenty of your compatriots would rather log on to ESO than eat breakfast or sleep in on a Saturday morning.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Fshober28b14_ESO · May 2014

Redsun wrote: »

yeah after the bugs have been around for weeks.suddenly zenimax think the fixes are SOOO impt that they have to bring down on Sat.

Lol seriously. I have no clue what drug zenimax is taking. Everything they done is like purposely trying to kill eso. Well congrats. You are doing an amazing job.

You know I do think, or presume, that they must be hot fixing something important that needed immediate down time...which if it's that urgently necessary then do what you gotta do, but then ....what you said is also true. Regardless of the intentions or purpose, it seems painfully obvious ZoS has done just about everything and anything to drive this game into the ground since long before head start reaching far back into beats a year before launch. Just go watch some Entropy Rising archived streams on Twitch if you want first hand experiences from people that were hand picked to play those betas for a year before the game launched. You will hear what it was like dealing with ZoS, and you see that reflected in the live game as well.

What goes on in a developer's offices, the exec's and management's decision making, etc. are all very much easily translated into the game you see before you. You don't need to be in the loop or in the offices at ZoS to see that they don't have their house in any kind of order, because that trickled down to the live game were attempting to play. They may think there is a wall between us and them....their overall handling of this game may not tell us everything we need to know, but it's enough.

This game may have been an initial success with box sales and initial subs, but unfortunately this game doesn't have much of a life on the horizon as people bailed weeks ago in bulk, and more are being shed daily in droves... it's all the remaining community is buzzing with in private voips, forums, reddit, etc... They did this to themselves. If they truly wanted this game to have longevity, they alone destroyed that prospect. Imo I think it's too late to turn this game around, they won't get those players back, and I can't pay friends and some guildmates that haven't had the chance to get their hand on ESO yet to try it...they know what's been going on.

I can't say for sure this is a cash grab launch, but for me this looks extremely identical to the methodology of many other developers making a game just an initial cash grab off a well known AAA title name, with no real concern for longevity(of course this involves lots of lies and b.s. and smoke screening the community). It's just my speculation of course, but I have played a lot of mmos...especially Korean and other Asian developed mmos and they are known for having quite a few pushed out cash grab games. They do this huge mass hype toward launch, get the big initial box sales, then have a small skeleton crew just manage(barely if at all) what remains cause it's all gravy at that point even if most of the population drops the game. Expect the F2P format to roll out in very very near future...hold on tight...it's gonna be a bumpy ride....or maybe it won't be.

Niastissa · May 2014

k9mouse wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Alpha_Protocol wrote: »

What's even funnier is Wildstar servers went up as ESO came down...

It's almost moronic.

Interesting. I'll go try them out. I just finished canceling this account.

Edit:

Just looked at the web page .... meh

Why do people quit over the most silly aspects? So ZOS needed to give the servers a little TLC, it is not like it is the end of the world .. or is it? Do this Khajiit missed that memo?

~This Khajiit can never figure out man or mer~

Because I vote with my wallet. The only thing companies listen to is the all mighty dollar. My dollar is saying "you better work around my schedule!"

gladen5rwb17_ESO · May 2014

jbfroik wrote: »

Please don't flame them. 8am is before most people are awake on a saturday and if its 10pm where you live you probly belong on the EU mega server. Just saying. Australia is not in the North American continent, at least that's what my world map says.

And your world map is absolutely right. However, this game was sold globally and to suggest that Australians have less right to complain than you is rather a rude and obnoxious comment. Australia also has more than one time zone which you obviously did not account for. Three hours difference from East to West, just like America has time zone differences coast to coast. So for many in Australia, that would be 8pm. Just saying.

Fruity_Ninja · May 2014

where was the maintenance announced btw?

I swear there was a section on the forum where devs posted prior to maintenance to announce it? I can't find that section of the forum anymore

ozgod22_eso · May 2014

I think the solution would be for Australians to have their own server, rather than have them perpetually whinging about inconvenient times and such. I'm not sure what Zenimax's criteria to have an Oceanic server would be though, given the population numbers:

North America - 246 million population
Europe (including Eastern Europe) - 731 million (excluding eastern Russia, otherwise would be over 1 billion)

Oceania (including countries like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji, Virgin Islands etc as well as Australia)- 36 million

k9mouse · May 2014

Niastissa wrote: »

k9mouse wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Alpha_Protocol wrote: »

What's even funnier is Wildstar servers went up as ESO came down...

It's almost moronic.

Interesting. I'll go try them out. I just finished canceling this account.

Edit:

Just looked at the web page .... meh

Why do people quit over the most silly aspects? So ZOS needed to give the servers a little TLC, it is not like it is the end of the world .. or is it? Do this Khajiit missed that memo?

~This Khajiit can never figure out man or mer~

Because I vote with my wallet. The only thing companies listen to is the all mighty dollar. My dollar is saying "you better work around my schedule!"

"Main Entry: Entitlement Generation
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the group born between 1979 and 1994 who believe they are owed certain rights and benefits without further justification
Example: The entitlement generation expects higher salaries, flexible work hours, and ample time off.
Usage: slang"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entitlement+generation

This is a sad sad world that this one have to live in...

Fruity_Ninja · May 2014

ozgod22_eso wrote: »

I think the solution would be for Australians to have their own server, rather than have them perpetually whinging about inconvenient times and such. I'm not sure what Zenimax's criteria to have an Oceanic server would be though, given the population numbers:

North America - 246 million population
Europe (including Eastern Europe) - 731 million (excluding eastern Russia, otherwise would be over 1 billion)

Oceania (including countries like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji, Virgin Islands etc as well as Australia)- 36 million

Please don't tar all Aussies with the same brush as being 'perpetual whiners'

If another server was going to happen, it'd prob be based in Singapore and service all of the SEA region.

But not all Aussies really care about downtime twice a week, like myself. 90% of games we play are like this, we get downtimes in our peaktimes and we get worse latency to cope with. Most of us get used to it, it's not a big deal really. A small vocal minority whinge on the forums.

I think the fact that they've changed our maintenance to Mondays and Thursdays is perfect- and in regular cycles we will get peak time over the weekend. That's enough of a compromise to satisfy me.

Woolenthreads · May 2014

Epona222 wrote: »

Sound's like you'd have a problem with that... just saying.

I don't know how you come to that conclusion. While it might be true I only speak English that doesn't mean that the changes the fact that 99% of the people on the western pacific rim time zone which we colloquially call "Oceania" or alternatively "South East Asia" speak Indonesian, Chinese or Malay.

Niastissa · June 2014

k9mouse wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

k9mouse wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Alpha_Protocol wrote: »

What's even funnier is Wildstar servers went up as ESO came down...

It's almost moronic.

Interesting. I'll go try them out. I just finished canceling this account.

Edit:

Just looked at the web page .... meh

Why do people quit over the most silly aspects? So ZOS needed to give the servers a little TLC, it is not like it is the end of the world .. or is it? Do this Khajiit missed that memo?

~This Khajiit can never figure out man or mer~

Because I vote with my wallet. The only thing companies listen to is the all mighty dollar. My dollar is saying "you better work around my schedule!"

"Main Entry: Entitlement Generation
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the group born between 1979 and 1994 who believe they are owed certain rights and benefits without further justification
Example: The entitlement generation expects higher salaries, flexible work hours, and ample time off.
Usage: slang"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entitlement+generation

This is a sad sad world that this one have to live in...

LMAO you don't know me. Don't cast stones in glass houses.

NeKryXe · June 2014

very nice! i didn't play all the week because of work... now i finally arrive home to play a few hours of ESO on the weekend and right after i open the game i got a yellow message informing me that the server will be closed in 5 minutes. also, now i have a trait finishing in 10 minutes that i'll only be able to start tomorrow. boring.

this is zenimax bad luck picking the day and the hour, for me it's the last drop, i'm sick of being unable to play at the times that i can play. i'm going to cancel the subscription right after post the message. cya. i'll try again in a few months.

btw *off-topic* i just saw that i still have 9 days left, should i wait for the last day to cancel or can i cancel it now and keep the 9 remaining days? will i lose those 9 days if i cancel it now?

Niastissa · June 2014

NeKryXe wrote: »

very nice! i didn't play all the week because of work... now i finally arrive home to play a few hours of ESO on the weekend and right after i open the game i got a yellow message informing me that the server will be closed in 5 minutes. also, now i have a trait finishing in 10 minutes that i'll only be able to start tomorrow. boring.

this is zenimax bad luck picking the day and the hour, for me it's the last drop, i'm sick of being unable to play at the times that i can play. i'm going to cancel the subscription right after post the message. cya. i'll try again in a few months.

btw *off-topic* i just saw that i still have 9 days left, should i wait for the last day to cancel or can i cancel it now and keep the 9 remaining days? will i lose those 9 days if i cancel it now?

You can cancel now and play the remaining time. It just becomes non-recuring.

I personally don't think I will be back for quite some time. I found South Park the stick of truth. I've obviously got entitlement issues </sarcastic>because I want to play a game I paid for so I'll just stick to offline awesome games where I won't run into the problem. Freaking apologists. End rant. Sorry not directed at you.

jeradlub17_ESO · June 2014

sskruizer101-elderscrollsrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Just lol, love to hear your comment if they ever took the server down in your precious country during prime time. They take the money from everyone from everywhere dude, not just you from the US. And if you'd rather eat eggs and bacon for breakfast in the states than play ESO before going to rob your local 711, good on you. But my bet is, plenty of your compatriots would rather log on to ESO than eat breakfast or sleep in on a Saturday morning.

What a hateful ignorant comment. Again it is a NA server and runs on NA time. Complaining about that just doesn't make sense. Doesn't matter where you live or where you bought game. Matters where you play it. That is NA. You would be better served trying to get a server specific for your zone instead of being hateful to the zone that owns it. The US wasn't the country founded by criminals btw that would be yours. But I do see it is a pretty nice place now. Maybe not within the radius of your attitude but the country itself is pretty nice.