Trials completion in 11mins?

Frenzypanda

Can anyone share how is it possible to finish the trials in 11mins? The mere timing of clearing through trash mobs and running to the boss is already more than 11mins. Unless all 12 dps are like god mode downing the bosses in secs.

If someone is abusing mechanics I hope such mechanics can be dealt with in a timely fashion. Abusers should rightfully be dealt with too. If it is due to being skillful, congratulations, you guys rock.

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subecsanur

What do you mean, there were VR12's not long patch was in place.

Frenzypanda

I am talking about people completing 12 man dungeons in 11mins. Not relevant to speed of levelling.

subecsanur

How can that not be relevant, having 12 vr12 running around as a set group over and over make all the difference with better gear and all and it is not like the mobs scale up along with them do they?

Yeah I saw that 2 days ago when they were also dropping down below 15-14minutes do get trials done.

Frenzypanda

Thats why it would be interesting to know how 12 vr 12s can do the whole dungeon in 11mins. But from what I heard, it is definitely worth investigating. Because 11mins divided by 4 bosses and trash mobs and distance between bosses you get less than 3mins per boss if divided equally.
Judging from the views, seems that quite a fair bit of fellow players would like to know as well.

subecsanur

Also notice that the groups usually comprise of only DK's and Sorcs not gimpy Templar nor NB's in those record breaking groups.

Frenzypanda

Really don't require heal? Oh i see

The_Drexill

It's an exploit. Just running across the bridge in the first trial takes 3 minutes, much less engaging the first group. No way anyone's clearing the thing in 11 minutes.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

We've got eyes on this, folks. Thank you.

Necro

This HAS to be an exploit of some sort.

flow.currypoteb17_ESO

we killed the first boss under 5 minutes, and we were hell fast! so no way they did all in 11 minutes. i dont buy it. but on the other hand. i think yeah, it could be done but still... this looks very strange

Frenzypanda

Thx dev

subecsanur

well maybe 1 healer usually is enough, but yeah........

Sirlex

its not cheating, but its some pretty big abuses of game mechanics. It'll be widespread and well known soon enough.

shirt10

The sad part is that the leaderboard is made up of some PTS guilds.

This would lead you to believe that they either reported these mechanic issues, which were then ignored by ZOS and not fixed before being rushed live, or they did not report the issues and used them to their advantages in live to gain an advantage.......

aeroch

Emperor bonuses, I think.

Axewaffle

aeroch wrote: »

Emperor bonuses, I think.

New emp ability: One shot PvE bosses, then teleport entire trial group to next boss.

All they do is abuse ultimate gains, spam DKs and Sorcs (because we havnt asked you for nerfs on these classes already right?) im talking 6dks 5 sorcs 1 temp (for mobile heals) then they spam banners and atronachs till the boss and all surrounding mobs in a 28 foot radius have been disntergrated. then they move on spaming resto staff heals between pulls to ensure they have max ult again for the next boss. For trash they do the same, pop rapid maneuver run THROUGH trash, till the final point, and spam Ults till they win.

As a nightblades though its good to be able to use my assasination ult to do 500 damage to a single target and reduce its healing by 50%. thanks zenimax, your ballance skills know no bounds.

Nortar

ZOS, there's a perfect solution - just buff up all the mobs to VR15 and increase health by decent amount, that should slow the players down all right!

Harakh

As soon as you put in Leaderboard the abusing will take place in any MMO

vengance89

Frenzypanda wrote: »

Really don't require heal? Oh i see

I sell pepper and salt to this guy He pays really well

PlagueMonk

subecsanur wrote: »

Also notice that the groups usually comprise of only DK's and Sorcs not gimpy Templar nor NB's in those record breaking groups.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We've got eyes on this, folks. Thank you.

Please take note of the above. ALL FOUR classes should be desired in groups to deal with the content efficiently but that is not what is happening. The other two clssses need to bring something crucial to the table and they obviously are not.

Veakoth

They are streaming their runs, its not an exploit just a stacking of the heaviest dps class's with stacked ultimate's and cyrodiil buffs. fyi nightblades aren't desired at all in trials.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Light armor, destruction staff. DK, Sorc.

Win.....

Phantorang

PlagueMonk wrote: »

subecsanur wrote: »

Also notice that the groups usually comprise of only DK's and Sorcs not gimpy Templar nor NB's in those record breaking groups.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We've got eyes on this, folks. Thank you.

Please take note of the above. ALL FOUR classes should be desired in groups to deal with the content efficiently but that is not what is happening. The other two clssses need to bring something crucial to the table and they obviously are not.

I dont think Templar and NB is ever going to get buffed up to DK and Sorc level, cause they got it all, CC, AoE, Tanking, and Solo+Resto healing, AND Best dps in game by far.

I dont see DK or Sorc get nerfed much either. So to all new players, roll a DK or Sorc, it will get you into groups and you will solo stuff alot easier.

Gloran

I don't actually know if this goes with the policy of the Forums, advertising streams, but we are streaming those runs (yes even 11 minutes) legit, on www.twitch.tv/seyocean

Veakoth

Its a lack of optimization for class's, if templars had the only ultimates that gave damage reduction you would see more of them and if nightblades had the highest execute damage you would see more of them as well but as it stands all you need is sorc's for execution and dk's for damage reduction with templar's for tanks and heal

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Light armor, destruction staff. DK, Sorc.

Win.....

I'm tired to see clones wearing light armor and destruction staff. Same in PvP.

Gloran

Contact me (Niwilav) or Dyvith Manawrath if you think you can dish out decent DPS and we will run with you. As a matter of fact we just don't know any good NB. In my opinion NBs do comparable damage to Sorc if setup properly.

Grim13

Maybe they bolt escaped to the end boss?

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Gloran wrote: »

Contact me (@Gloran) or @Dyvith if you think you can dish out decent DPS and we will run with you. As a matter of fact we just don't know any good NB. In my opinion NBs do comparable damage to Sorc if setup properly.

Set up properly as in using Light armor and destruction staff.... Wouldn't be AS good as a sorc or DK tho.

Moonraker

People once again fast to draw conclusions and say PTS testers taking advantage of x & y.

The point made above as an example, the fact that PvP buffs are enabled in Trials was raised as a concern by these players in testing but they were left in as was by ZOS as a design decision.

Testers will gain knowledge of fights due to the nature of testing content and also tend to be more skilled players. So plenty of reasons why they are likely to be pushing the envelope of what is possible in Trial runs.

Like others have said, there are live streams available to watch also.

Personally I feel PvP buffs should not be enabled in Trials.

Difficulty is not where it should be if end content is able to be zerged through in close to 10 minutes even if it is top guild groups.

Using all possible advantage including PvP buffs, experience, careful planning, class selection etc. is all part of high end raiding and always has been. It does not mean it is an abuse just taking advantage of what's possible.