1 handed weapon style

Rastafariel

I sincerely hope a 1 handed weapon style is on the way, since they have forced people who used to be able to wield a 1 handed weapon and make use of the sword & board skill line to now be obsolete. I was a vocal critic of the fact that they did not have a 1 handed style in beta, but I let it pass and said hey, Ill take the hit to my ac for not using a shield, and I'll only use a few skills from the skill line. Now I have my swashbuckling sorcerer wielding a shield? No thanks.

Please give us news of the true 1 handed skill line. I can name a few movies with heroes that use a sword & shield. I can name hundreds of movies with heroes that simply use a sword.

What happened to playing my way?

crowfl56

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

SirJesto

WAI.

skarvika

I'm going to be sticking with dual wield but I support this.

PVT_Parts

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

How it is supposed to work? Where did you get that fact?

penguinlaraub17_ESO

crowfl56 wrote: »

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Do you play S/B tank? Sword light attacks do like next to nothing for damage.

Drachenfier

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

hahahahaha

AlexDougherty

Rastafariel wrote: »

I sincerely hope a 1 handed weapon style is on the way, since they have forced people who used to be able to wield a 1 handed weapon and make use of the sword & board skill line to now be obsolete. I was a vocal critic of the fact that they did not have a 1 handed style in beta, but I let it pass and said hey, Ill take the hit to my ac for not using a shield, and I'll only use a few skills from the skill line. Now I have my swashbuckling sorcerer wielding a shield? No thanks.

Please give us news of the true 1 handed skill line. I can name a few movies with heroes that use a sword & shield. I can name hundreds of movies with heroes that simply use a sword.

What happened to playing my way?

In this case it died years ago, just equip a shield and don't use it.
As for there being Hundreds of Movies with one weapon and no shield, well those aren't realistic in that regard, a using another weapon or shield is always better in a fight.

PBpsy

The S&B is still the best weapon skill line in the game, Even if you are not using any of the actives the passives and the ability to block continuously beats anything the other skill lines have to offer.

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

Bloodvax

Really sucks you cant slam your face into the bash button over and over to kill things. Dear god you might actually have to use spells and abilities!!! OH NOOOOOO!!!!!

nerevarine1138

Unless you're fencing (you know, where there are rules to combat), there is generally no advantage to having just one weapon in one hand when you could have a shield or weapon in your off-hand.

Drachenfier

PBpsy wrote: »

The S&B is still the best weapon skill line in the game, Even if you are not using any of the actives the passives and the ability to block continuously beats anything the other skill lines have to offer.

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

I can block all day long with destro staff....shield gives less armor than the gloves my character is wearing...the passives suck since bash got nerfed...not sure what you're smoking.

ShintaiDK

PBpsy wrote: »

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

That works for DK and perhaps NBs. But certainly not for templars.

penguinlaraub17_ESO

PBpsy wrote: »

The S&B is still the best weapon skill line in the game, Even if you are not using any of the actives the passives and the ability to block continuously beats anything the other skill lines have to offer.

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

No idea what came you are playing but blocking is a joke now, so much damage still leaks through. On top of that blocking cost so much stamina it's almost worthless unless you are blocking only charged attacks, and you better have about 25% stam to block those other wise game over.

AlexDougherty

ShintaiDK wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

That works for DK and perhaps NBs. But certainly not for templars.

Works ok for my Templar.

Drachenfier

AlexDougherty wrote: »

ShintaiDK wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

That works for DK and perhaps NBs. But certainly not for templars.

Works ok for my Templar.

Complete reliance on class skills in the most magicka consumptive class in the game works ok for you?

AlexDougherty

Drachenfier wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

ShintaiDK wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

That works for DK and perhaps NBs. But certainly not for templars.

Works ok for my Templar.

Complete reliance on class skills in the most magicka consumptive class in the game works ok for you?

Yes, Biting jabs then that fire ball ability, repeat the Biting jabs repeatedly, and when I need to whack them a few times with my weapon.

It's not perfect, but it works ok.

PBpsy

penguinlaraub17_ESO wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

The S&B is still the best weapon skill line in the game, Even if you are not using any of the actives the passives and the ability to block continuously beats anything the other skill lines have to offer.

Use shield for mitigation and use your class skills for damage.

No idea what came you are playing but blocking is a joke now, so much damage still leaks through. On top of that blocking cost so much stamina it's almost worthless unless you are blocking only charged attacks, and you better have about 25% stam to block those other wise game over.

That is because you are fighting bugged out mobs at the moment. They said it will be fixed soon.

I do agree that it may be a lot different for other classes. I play NB tank and the only real use for stamina in combat is blocking and since I use siphoning strikes i get a bit of stamina each time add the 5piece heavy bonus and all the S&B bonuses I rarely run out stamina if I add defensive posture it becomes funny.i only have 2 points in stamina and no enchants. I can go against packs of 8 in Craglorn and finish them my dots,aoe and ultimates.

For other classes try to use skill that give you regen amd stamina boosts if possible.Though yes I doubt anybody except DKs can match a NB with a shield.

Maverick827

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Unless you're fencing (you know, where there are rules to combat), there is generally no advantage to having just one weapon in one hand when you could have a shield or weapon in your off-hand.

In real life, actual dual wielding was extremely rare if it was used seriously at all. While a single sword wouldn't be used on the battlefield, at least it makes sense to be used in a spur-of-the-moment fight when one does.not have a shield on hand.

What they should do is make a 1H/Spell fighting style.

nerevarine1138

Maverick827 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Unless you're fencing (you know, where there are rules to combat), there is generally no advantage to having just one weapon in one hand when you could have a shield or weapon in your off-hand.

In real life, actual dual wielding was extremely rare if it was used seriously at all. While a single sword wouldn't be used on the battlefield, at least it makes sense to be used in a spur-of-the-moment fight when one does.not have a shield on hand.

What they should do is make a 1H/Spell fighting style.

Fortunately for you, your character is never dumb enough to be caught without a shield/weapon in their other hand.

And we already have a 2h/spell fighting system, so why would anyone voluntarily take a worse option?

AlexDougherty

Maverick827 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Unless you're fencing (you know, where there are rules to combat), there is generally no advantage to having just one weapon in one hand when you could have a shield or weapon in your off-hand.

In real life, actual dual wielding was extremely rare if it was used seriously at all.

Two swords indeed were rare, or two full sized weapons of any type.

A sword being paired with a dagger however was not, it was rarer than a shield, but common enough to have been historically documented. Also the Celts were well known for using twinned long knifes (at least those the Romans encountered).

But yes, a one handed weapon was usually paired with a shield.

Rastafariel

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Crow you totally missed my point. For RP reasons I want to ONLY use a sword. We now cannot do that.

Capjack01

a pity we don't have rapiers. a main gauche in the other hand and whoosh....

swashbuckler!

nerevarine1138

Rastafariel wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Crow you totally missed my point. For RP reasons I want to ONLY use a sword. We now cannot do that.

Oh, but you're mistaken.

You can do that. But you'll be RPing a very weak character. The same way that I can RP a pacifist, but I don't think any other players will want to group with me.

Emencie

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Rastafariel

I cannot do that and use pierce or slash like I used to.

Realize Im not asking for stuff to mess with YOUR game. You play the way you want and I shall also. So Zenimax, either revert 1h & shiled or give me a 1 handed tree.

Thank you.

Tendeep

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Wait... what? Use sword for major damage? What major damage? All the one handed skills suck horribly and do very little dps...

rawne1980b16_ESO

Picture this for a one handed weapon style that isn't sword and board....

Picture 2 one handed weapons.

One in each hand.

How awesome would that be.

Stratti

zen made a clear adjustment to many abilities to make combat more meaningful, difficult and longer . Simple. I am a dk tank v3 who was better dps with main bash ability then dps . Godly in PVE only thing would kill me would be 5th add or no resources at pull.

I'm happy with the change balance is good

Gaudrath

Rastafariel wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Crow you totally missed my point. For RP reasons I want to ONLY use a sword. We now cannot do that.

Yes we can. Just don't equip the shield. You won't have many weapon moves that way (in fact not sure if S&B will even work with just the one handed weapon equipped) but you can still combine with class and guild spells for effectiveness. You won't be top of the line, but it will be quite doable.

Rastafariel

Gaudrath wrote: »

Rastafariel wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

Sword and shield, to me is working the way its supposed to now.

Use sword for major damage, use shield, mainly to disrupt or interupt mob and some minor damage. That's how its supposed work

Crow you totally missed my point. For RP reasons I want to ONLY use a sword. We now cannot do that.

Yes we can. Just don't equip the shield. You won't have many weapon moves that way (in fact not sure if S&B will even work with just the one handed weapon equipped) but you can still combine with class and guild spells for effectiveness. You won't be top of the line, but it will be quite doable.

Again my whole point is NOW after the patch, you cannot equip just a sword and have any abilities in the 1h & shield line.

Its like hearding cats in here.