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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Surely 2 to 5 seconds ability lag isn't what Matt Firor had in mind for Cyrodiil?

sinz_xb16_ESO
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When Matt Firor promised us a lag-free experience I really thought this game was going to push the boundaries further in terms of low latency action combat in MMO's and thus justifying paying a monthly subscription for this game.

With that in mind, Cyrodill in it's current state is nothing short of a bad joke. On the EU megaserver there are only a few moments where the ability lag drops below 2 seconds (which is still very much unacceptable) and most of the time it's sitting anywhere between 3 - 5 seconds. I've also lost count of all the moments where the lag was so intense my character just stopped responding all together. Coming from Guild Wars 2, this game feels like I'm back to playing on my 56k modem, over fifteen years ago. Even that was a better experience than this.

I think everyone can agree that this is unacceptable for today's standards and not really worth paying a subscription for either.

Please ZOS, do something to combat this insane lag and save your game before it's too late. The concept of Cyrodiil is nice, but nobody is going to put up with gameplay standards from the 20th century anymore. I think the campaign population indicators are speaking for themselves in that regard.
"We will make sure that no matter where you live, every player in North America, Europe, Oceania, and many places beyond will have a polished, lag-free launch experience" - Matt Firor

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  • arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO
    Yep, will be a disaster if they can't fix the lag soon. The game is near to dead right now.
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  • bitaken
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    "We will make sure that no matter where you live, every player in North America, Europe, Oceania, and many places beyond will have a polished, lag-free launch experience" - Matt Firor

    Ok, this made me laugh. Actually, it made my day.

    Seriously out of control at this point - The PvE in this game is rather...boring and I hate PvE anyway. I came here for a DAOC like PvP experience - and am getting it during very specific times of day. Any population at all on Wabbajack and you can just watch the lag take over your gaming experience.

    I feel like its the first relic raid days of DAOC when we were all level 38 and the keep guards could one shot you so we needed 100 people to /assist and kill guards. The frame rates back then (13 years ago) are similar to what I get in this game.
    PvP Lead Officer for Einherjar

    Member of Einherjar and associated guilds since 2001

    A multi Gaming community of players.
  • Snit
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    Wabbajack is often unplayable. It reminds me of Warhammer's early days -- a fantastic RvR experience in theory, but one their engine could not deliver. It sunk that game.
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    Ratbag AD Warden Tank
    Goblins AD Stamblade

  • joshisanonymous
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    OP says: "This is unacceptable by today's standards."

    Every response: "This reminds me of this or that MMO which had the same exact issues at launch."

    It's not unacceptable relative to other MMOs. Maybe all MMOs need to go through longer stress testing periods, but that's probably financially unviable.

    Also, GW2 had quite a few issues for a long time. Remember culling? I'm not sure if that was due to lag, but it ruined the experience pretty often and persisted for at least 6 months, if not longer. They also had some pretty bad skill lag issues that appeared long after release.

    DAoC can't really be used for comparison, either. Yes, that game came out long ago, but it was far less graphically intensive and use a tab targetting system. I'm sure we'd have zero lag if the game was built completely from the DAoC engine.

    I'm not saying that lag is alright, I'm just saying that it's not so surprising that you should be making accusations of complete incompetence on the part of the devs. Anyway, the patch coming out tomorrow addresses lag, read the notes. I imagine you'll have a much better experience when they move the EU campaigns to the EU also. I hope that happens sooner than later for you.
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  • bitaken
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    Anyway, the patch coming out tomorrow addresses lag, read the notes.

    I want to live on the planet you are on where everything a game company states is true.
    PvP Lead Officer for Einherjar

    Member of Einherjar and associated guilds since 2001

    A multi Gaming community of players.
  • Desdemonte
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    There have been a number of patches already that have addressed lag and long loading screens.

    Hmmmmmmmmm.........
  • Teargrants
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    Don't forget the patch to fix endless fury magica restore that instead removed magica restore from the half of the skill that did work...
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  • SC0TY999
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    According to forums a lot of busy campaigns on NA server suffer with lag also so, I very much dought that moving server to EU is the end of all. As Desdemonte stated there have already been a number of patches to improve lag and long loading screens and they're worse now than when the game launched!
  • Nazon_Katts
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    If it were just Cyrodiil, but lag kills me at world bosses, delve bosses and 3+ VR trash mobs. Usually when somebody else enters the scene. It's tricky enough to stay alive with a ping of 180, so a spike is certain death in these cases.
    "You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"
  • Harakh
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    I bet a ZOS comes in a says

    - Which Campaing
    - Which IP
    - Where are the Lags
    - Where do you live
    - Your PC Spec
    - Last sub fee you payed :D
    Die Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
    Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
    Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
    Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.
  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Maybe it will all be better tomorrow... maybe it will be worse :disappointed:
  • Oblongship
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    Harakh wrote: »
    I bet a ZOS comes in a says

    - Which Campaing
    - Which IP
    - Where are the Lags
    - Where do you live
    - Your PC Spec
    - Last sub fee you payed :D

    You mean the ZoS Bot that takes your response and "Files" it under T for Trash can.
  • Teargrants
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    Either way, it will still be low/empty.
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    Vehemence Council
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    agree 100% with the OP.

  • CaptainSilverbrow
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    For the record, this is an issue on the NA server as well. As a bonus kick to the nuts, those spells/weapon swaps that wouldn't go off while I was fighting NEVER fail to activate after I've died and respawned. Like they just queue up and wait until well after I, y'know, actually needed them to activate. Maybe my heals and weapon swaps are just shy around other players?
    Edited by CaptainSilverbrow on 2 June 2014 13:14
  • c0rp
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    Matt Firor should be EMBARRASSED with the lag in our PVP. Actually...ZoS should be as a whole.
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • Wolfahm
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    WABBAJACK-NA IS THE BEST TURN BASED PVP GAME YOUR MONEY CAN BUY! B)
    Edited by Wolfahm on 2 June 2014 20:16
    MAKE KHAJIITS CRIT AGAIN!!!

    |Wolf Ahm the Unchained|
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    - 2 Templars | Stam/Healer -
    - 2 Sorc | Stam/Mag -
    - 2 Wardens | Stam/Mag -
    - 1 DK | Tank/Stam -
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  • Jaxom
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    Wolfahm wrote: »
    WABBAJACK-NA IS THE BEST TURN BASED PVP GAME YOUR MONEY CAN BUY! B)

    I especially like it when my opponent skips their turn a few times in a row. I don't like it when I skip my turn though.
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