Whilst AI is not an authority on anything in particular, I was amused by something one particular engine told me last night:
1. ESO PVP is broken
2. The build that's breaking it
3. It's astonishment that things have got to this stage
4. That's there's no quick fix
5. That I should probably stop playing

Well I'm keeping going with my tragic non meta build, as frustrating as it is. I want to drag this char kicking and screaming up to alliance rank 50. I mean, it's been years, I need to see it out.

But it is interesting that even AI says stuff like this these days.

yes they did, all that i knew guess i still know of a couuple hanging in there though. thought the place was a couple of days a year zone to go naked into for quests at the event time myself these days just to laugh at getting ganked while trying to get the quests done, alas tickets are part of the past not done an event lately so maybe not even that anymore

Telel wrote: »

Taarente wrote: »

You understand that cyrodiil is a war zone not an arena yes?

It is not a war. It is a game. A video game played on a machine from the safety , and luxury, of one's abode.

It's incredibly disrespectful to even try and use that comparison to justify the poor sportsmanship and toxic behavior of a specific group of people.

Furthermore it does not excuse poor moderation, bad game performance, and a 12 year old scoring system that really needs to be updated. After all all three of those, especially the last, are one of the reasons things are as bothersome as they are now.

Agree with all of this. I haven't logged into ESO for over 2 weeks now because even the PvE side of the game feels bland, stale and unrewarding. Don't get me started on the state of PvP but it's just.....bad. Nothing is balanced, server performance is still atrocious...you know it's bad when you look at the primetime population and there's no queue and all 3 alliances are barely at 3 bars. I've been playing ESO PvP for years and this is probably the worst I've seen it at

Why aren't there more people in Cyro?

- There is no game balance in PVP anymore, not that there was much to begin with. The gap between PVP and PVE has grown too wide. Normal players in normal builds, trying to play their favorite characters as they envision them, are just targets for slaughter. Werewolves, DKs and Sorcs in super secret PVP subclass (worst thing ever added to the game) builds loaded with exploits, rule the field. Divines help you if they get together in a ball group; you might as well just log out and leave ESO for another game like GW2 that actually has an idea of balance.

- AP gain is so ludicrously slow that you can play through an entire Whitestrake event and feel like you've accomplished little to nothing. Oh look at that: I took all three RSS, flipped the keep, and ate a bunch of kits repairing the gates, and the bar for raising my PVP rank hasn't visibly moved. Wonderful! Why exactly am I spending the time out of my limited lifespan on this again?

- The achievements and vendor rewards are even slower. The daily tokens like the Battlemaster Tokens are just that: daily. To collect everything from the various PVP vendors and areas would require literal years of play. Those daily tokens need to be changed from daily to per quest to make them more viable.

So, yeah. The play is ugly, the advancement is slow, and the vendor rewards are ridiculously time locked. With all that, the real question isn't "Why aren't there more people in Cyro?" It's really "Why is ANYBODY in Cyro?"

peacenote wrote: »

Fwiw, I have not quit and the Veterancy progression has rejuvenated by interest a bit. However, I typically play Sat and Sun mornings and not in the afternoon so you wouldn't run into me.

Therefore, everyone has not quit.

That's the only time u don't run into balls an epic lag

I'm confused, are you asking why nobody plays cyro, then complaining about a whole bunch of reasons that would result in people not playing in cyro?

Aren't you answering your own question? lol

ToddIngram wrote: »

Vengeance is a fail and never should have been invested into in the first place.

BR is used during weekends and busy weeknights.

And GH pop locks every day for at least six hours and 12 hours on the weekends.

How can this be interpreted as "has everyone quit cyrodiil"?

I don't know were you were playing but last month ad an dc were 2 bars an only pop locked for like 30min on the weekend an the que was less then 10

ToddIngram wrote: »

Goregram1 wrote: »

ToddIngram wrote: »

Vengeance is a fail and never should have been invested into in the first place.

BR is used during weekends and busy weeknights.

And GH pop locks every day for at least six hours and 12 hours on the weekends.

How can this be interpreted as "has everyone quit cyrodiil"?

I don't know were you were playing but last month ad an dc were 2 bars an only pop locked for like 30min on the weekend an the que was less then 10

I play GH in all three factions on PC NA. When ZOS made faction lock I made two more accounts so I could play with my friends no matter what faction they were playing.

When EP is pop locked, the other two factions are almost always pop locked as well. I know because I usually log into the last place faction. You are not accurately representing the queue times and participation levels.

He was with over 70 DC just this weekend for far longer than 30 min, not sure if we live in different spacetimes. I remember because those 70 DC burned my siege. And I ALWAYS remember who burns my siege, esp. when I lose 5 of them. So I can pay them back with even more siege when I see them next.

An evil DC even mocked me and danced around my body with others and he messaged me to "try firing siege now lmaoooo". He didn't know that was a bad thing to do because there were others watching that saw that. Others in EP. Some in AD too. A certain AD player became so enraged when she learned that I was being bullied while extremely sick that she said would replace my siege and make DC pay. And she did make DC pay.

DC gets targeted because the players they are bullies! There was no need to burn 5 coldfire ballistae, they could have killed me after I saved them. It's not like I wasn't the only one there. Those take a lot of farming. Plus it's all I can do. I am nothing without my siege.

There was no need for the t-bagging, mocking, and mean messages either. If you didn't want to die so much to siege, you guys could have just put up siege shield. Seriously. I was only using 5 coldfires and not 6 so it would slow you down. That was a big mistake, I know next time to show no mercy.

Not being nice has a price. You never know who might be watching or hear of your deeds. I am always prepared to pay the price for firing siege. I pay it all the time and get humiliated and mocked, even by my own faction sometimes. But you won't ever see me mock my opponents. I don't hate anyone enough for that. In fact, I've helped my opponents instead. Which is why some, despite being on the other faction and even in DC, will seek vengeance. And I don't mean the campaign.

I am so lucky to have such powerful cross faction allies. Heh, what a bunch of kind people to go so far. I hope DC is ready when I recover from being sick. If I remember, I'm going to fire siege. Hard. At every name that I remember that was there.

Luneca wrote: »

ToddIngram wrote: »

Goregram1 wrote: »

ToddIngram wrote: »

Vengeance is a fail and never should have been invested into in the first place.

BR is used during weekends and busy weeknights.

And GH pop locks every day for at least six hours and 12 hours on the weekends.

How can this be interpreted as "has everyone quit cyrodiil"?

I don't know were you were playing but last month ad an dc were 2 bars an only pop locked for like 30min on the weekend an the que was less then 10

I play GH in all three factions on PC NA. When ZOS made faction lock I made two more accounts so I could play with my friends no matter what faction they were playing.

When EP is pop locked, the other two factions are almost always pop locked as well. I know because I usually log into the last place faction. You are not accurately representing the queue times and participation levels.

He was with over 70 DC just this weekend for far longer than 30 min, not sure if we live in different spacetimes. I remember because those 70 DC burned my siege. And I ALWAYS remember who burns my siege, esp. when I lose 5 of them. So I can pay them back with even more siege when I see them next.

An evil DC even mocked me and danced around my body with others and he messaged me to "try firing siege now lmaoooo". He didn't know that was a bad thing to do because there were others watching that saw that. Others in EP. Some in AD too. A certain AD player became so enraged when she learned that I was being bullied while extremely sick that she said would replace my siege and make DC pay. And she did make DC pay.

DC gets targeted because the players they are bullies! There was no need to burn 5 coldfire ballistae, they could have killed me after I saved them. It's not like I wasn't the only one there. Those take a lot of farming. Plus it's all I can do. I am nothing without my siege.

There was no need for the t-bagging, mocking, and mean messages either. If you didn't want to die so much to siege, you guys could have just put up siege shield. Seriously. I was only using 5 coldfires and not 6 so it would slow you down. That was a big mistake, I know next time to show no mercy.

Not being nice has a price. You never know who might be watching or hear of your deeds. I am always prepared to pay the price for firing siege. I pay it all the time and get humiliated and mocked, even by my own faction sometimes. But you won't ever see me mock my opponents. I don't hate anyone enough for that. In fact, I've helped my opponents instead. Which is why some, despite being on the other faction and even in DC, will seek vengeance. And I don't mean the campaign.

I am so lucky to have such powerful cross faction allies. Heh, what a bunch of kind people to go so far. I hope DC is ready when I recover from being sick. If I remember, I'm going to fire siege. Hard. At every name that I remember that was there.

i hate to break it to you but most of them players moved to EP. idk what player that wants the game to survive an just gates everyone an sits at the gates an wait for ppl to run out an kill them an be in one of them unkillable ball groups because i don't see DC doping that