ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

noblecron wrote: »

If you chose ruckus you're instanced with other ruckus players and they have the least population

This is not accurate. Players are not given priority to be instanced with players of the same Faction. There may be fewer players in the Ruckus District right now because folks are prioritizing a different District, but that is not how instancing in the Night Market works. When players enter the main hub and Districts, they join based on when they entered until the zone cap is hit, then a new instance spins up. That's it.

You can say it's not true; but the actual player experience tells a completely different story. I played the Night Market for two hours this evening during prime time on PC NA. I encountered a total of 9 other players roaming the three districts with 4 of those seemingly grouped together and the other 5 being random solo players. There were several instances where I spent 5+ consecutive minutes in the districts without seeing another player. The mobs seem to have a fairly fast respawn rate but even considering that, I did not see dead mobs or empty sections where a pack of mobs had just been wiped. Instancing in the three districts has some major problems which spells trouble for this event if things are this dead on the first day during prime time.

Overall, my first opinion on this opening night is that this is a huge misfire from ZOS as this zone sucks.

code65536 wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

I dont inderstand how I picked the loser faction. Why is there a lose faction? I dont even care about the faction point system, but clearly I picked the bad faction because nobody else is around. Why are the districts so empty for new content?

@Personofsecrets Faction choice is irrelevant. You can group with anyone from any faction. You can share quest with anyone from any faction. And you can advance quest objectives together with anyone from any faction. Factions have literally zero impact on gameplay.

When I ran this with a group earlier today, we were mostly by ourselves with only a few stray pugs here and there. Where was everyone else, I wondered. Then we went into another district, and oh, there was the zerg. One more thing to consider is that the population cap of each Night Market instance is a little low. Hard-capped at 36, IIRC. People are spread out across many instances, so it's not uncommon for a particular instance to just have one zerg, which will leave the districts that the zerg isn't in relatively quiet.

Thank you for writing. This info is in line with another critical post that I wrote which is that the metagame of how the event works shouldn't really be a a difficult thing. Your guide is appreciated by the way. Though I will probably have to take notes or make an excel sheet to figure out what is needed to complete the relics.

Another thing is that if the factions have no impact on gameplay, then I don't really understand their purpose other than complexity and creating meaningless winners/losers distinction for some reason. I feel in such an alien world compared to where video game designers must live.

I also find it interesting that I didn't find an issue when playing the Writhing Wall event. I think that some combination of 3 open zones, quests that indviduals need to do, and open plan zones (rather than linear) with resetting mobs creates the instances of not finding anyone to play with.

I fought Murklight by myself a couple of times. Dying half way through. Eventually a few other people joined. Every boss fight was taking a long time. I eventually just logged off and did some remote work for a few hour. My job was more fun, engaging, and rewarding than the event lol.

If you're going to force account-wide factions, you should give us account-wide progression through these event zones.

correction, i was able to eat it on one character and then unable to eat it on the other, so these are account-wide. the character-bound descriptor confusingly intimates these fragments, and their related achievements, are character-specific.

Every activity, including trials, should have a queueable option, which would solve a lot of the complaints I see regarding required forced grouping. I don’t know why they took this feature away when—for those who recall—queueing for trials actually used to be a thing back in the craglorn days. So the tech is there but ZOS still thinks imposing friction for group content then making said group content the entire crux of an update is a good thing.

LukosCreyden wrote: »

I think the team needs to accept that, over the years, ESO has cultivated a playerbase that is mostly solo-orientated. As such, new releases should probably keep this in mind. Most players are either going to wanr to be able to solo stuff, or clear it with other randoms in-zone.
There of course must always be a place for organized group enjoyers, but I do not think this is it. Not entirely, anyway.

So much this. It's baffling they decided to bring back Craglorn again when obviously didn't worked before and some of us are so accustomed to play solo. Maybe they should take some notes of how World of Warcraft has embraced solo play lately while still offering challenging content for organized groups. I mean, why not? They are owned by the same company now.

Please don't nerf/reduce the difficulty. Finally nice to see some challenging group content that requires you to interact with others. Been way too much content catered to the casual solo audience for too long. First time in over 6 months I'm genuinely interested to play the game.

As a PvPer, congrats ZOS. You made me really enjoy a PvE environment. I had such a blast today with a group of PvP guildies just running around, killing stuff, dying constantly, figuring out the mechanics and puzzles, it was a blast.

This is not sarcasm either. My guildies enjoyed the heck out of it when we went in expecting a boring farm for the new mythic.

thepandalore wrote: »

If you're going to force account-wide factions, you should give us account-wide progression through these event zones.

Consume the splinter, it's tracked by an achievement.

I won't even be touching this as it's obviously not designed for me. I have no problem grouping up with people, but I just do not find cHaLlEnGiNg CoNtEnT enjoyable. It's a challenge just to live in RL, especially with a disability, so I play games to get away from that stress and this is obviously not going to do that.

I still cannot believe you decided to go back to Craglorn after the insane mess that area was on release.

When I read feedback on PTS about how hard Night Market is and so on, I secretly hoped that when ZOS launched Night Market, they would take player feedback into account and Night Market would have two difficulty levels: Normal, where even casual players could have fun, and Hard (or Veteran, or whatever), where players looking for a challenge would also get nice time playing. Or if not that, I figured that at least if it had the same difficulty level as Arc 1, that would be cool too.

This morning before work, I had an hour to spare, so I decided to check out Night Market, and I was completely disappointed. The mob groups are too close together; if you want to spread out the fight a bit and kite the mobs, you immediately aggro another mob pack. The spawn rate is way too fast, and the difficulty is really too high... I get that it’s supposed to be group content, but I still expected it to be “soloable.” I mean, sure, you can fight your way through the mobs slowly, but just a few mistakes and you’re dead, so this isn’t fun from my perspective.
Definitely a big thumbs down from me.

DirkRavenclaw wrote: »

Its so hardcore. Its Craglorn 2.0. Those of us that played as Craglorn came out will remember. Craglorn was set up as a harder Zone, the wasps killed you with 1 or 2 hits, after a while ESO toned it down, so i will prob give up on it and wait until the Nerf

Oh wait! Where did I read this before? PTS thread, maybe?
And? Was the difficulty level adjusted? eeeeeeeeeeeee nope!

Came home to find the Night Market empty and 1 group in group finder that promptly wiped and disbanded. It's Day 1 -half the player base should be in there?

Very disappointed as I thought on the first day at least there would be groups.

Only empty instances.

Going back to Windrose until you people fix whatever reason the entire player base decided it wasn't worth doing. Once again the ESO hype team is full of hot air and content is rubbish. Utterly sick of getting let down over and over again by ESO.

*And yes, slot Pale Order and you can spend millions of hours of soloing content without dying. But why? There are more fun games to play.

I’ve spent some time in the Night Market on PC EU as a mostly solo player and I’d like to make a few observations.
My main concern is that the content currently feels both very difficult and strangely empty at the same time. From reading other comments, it sounds like the instancing/population caps may be spreading players out too thinly. As a result, I often found myself alone in encounters that feel tuned for multiple players.
I’m not a new player or someone expecting effortless overland combat — I’ve soloed normal group dungeons on this character before — but in the Night Market I was being killed extremely quickly, sometimes before I had much opportunity to react or learn mechanics properly. The issue isn’t simply “difficulty”; it’s the combination of high incoming damage, low visible player density, and content that appears to assume group participation without naturally providing it. I also understand the mobs were already adjusted after PTS feedback, which makes me wonder whether solo scaling or increased player density may still need further consideration.
At the moment, it’s discouraging that parts of the Night Den house are locked behind Night Market progression, particularly for players currently struggling with the difficulty.
The gear rewards do not feel especially motivating, since many of the featured sets are already easily available through existing overland content.
I do think the atmosphere and concept of the Night Market are interesting, and I’m hoping things improve once more players are active, strategies emerge, and any balance adjustments are made. For now though, as a solo-oriented player, the experience has felt more frustrating than enjoyable.

Tayra_Evenstar wrote: »

First off, the Curator dialogue topics read as though I'm meant to know about this "Night Market" even though this is the first my character (or I) have heard of it. I have to mention it to him before he even speaks of it.
Second, I've exhausted all dialogue topics he has and yet the quest still tells me to "Talk to the curator".
Is this thing broken?

Wait! Where have I read this before? Let me think, let me think....... PTS feedback thread? Is it possible?
Actually, on the PTS, at least one line of dialogue still worked.
And? Was the quest fixed? eeeeeeeeeeeeeee nope!
It was actually broken even more.
But then, why would you expect the starting quest to be tested before launch, right?

Taryn57 wrote: »

Nothing is explained properly so it's very confusing, especially how to get started.

Wait! Where have I read this before? Let me think, let me think....... PTS feedback thread? Is it possible?
Only a couple of posts as example.
And? Was this issue around clarity fixed? eeeeeeeeeeeeeee nope!