Official Night Market Feedback Thread

ZOS_GinaBruno · April 29

Welcome to the Night Market! ESO's first ever event zone is now live and will be available until June 17. Please use this thread for any feedback you want to share while going through the Night Market. We'll be keeping a close eye on your feedback to help drive any potential changes when we bring Night Market back later this year.

jle30303 · April 29

First things first:

Is there any indication, *in-game*, of how to get IN to the Night Market? Or even that there IS a Night Market?

How about for those people who don't actually have access to Fargrave?

Is there a prologue quest somewhere? (Which isn't in the Prologue Quests menu in the Crown Store.) An NPC like that Watcher in Molag Mar who can give people a pointer for the Infinite Archive even if they don't have Apocrypha?

ZOS_GinaBruno · April 29

Yes, there is supposed to be a quest starter in the Crown Store but it is currently missing. We are working on fixing now, and hopefully that should help guide folks to Night Market if anyone isn't able to get to Fargrave.

method__01 · April 29

market area can not be done solo ,why? i read that you can advance without group

twisttop138 · April 29

method__01 wrote: »

market area can not be done solo ,why? i read that you can advance without group

You can with the right build, they did nerf it. I think the general theme is find the group of people going through and follow them.

robwolf666 · April 29

Still undecided whether or not I'll be going in tbh:

Golden Pursuits:
15K Gold - I can earn that in a normal days activities with my 2 characters.
Helms/Shoulders - I never wear helms, I don't like hiding my characters face.
Skin - I very rarely use skins, plus this one doesn't appeal to me.
Transmute gems - I very rarely transmute gear, and have plenty.

Tome Challenge:
Tome Points - I already have most of the items from Season Zero tome (free & premium), and I'll earn enough from Weekly challenges to "buy" the rest by the end of the season.

So reward-wise, nothing really incentivises me to go in to the Night Market tbh. But the biggest reason I'm most likely not to is I don't like group oriented content. If I'm going to try something, no matter how hard it might be, I prefer to do it alone.

So, like I say, undecided.

GoAvs34 · April 29

Population cap should be increased. Feels empty in every instance I go in after 5 mins unless there is an organized group. People die and then leave and i'm on my own soloing

method__01 · April 29

twisttop138 wrote: »

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You can with the right build, they did nerf it. I think the general theme is find the group of people going through and follow them.

ok but if i wanted a group i can decide on my own -or this is Group Only content ?
if so i dont want waste my time ,got better things to do in game than f8 same tanky enemies over and over

Aliyavana · April 29

Thousand Eyes Rule! Thousand Eyes Best Faction!

Erickson9610 · April 29

There is nothing to encourage faction loyalty, which is really sad considering we're to get end-of-campaign rewards for the effort we put into helping our chosen faction. Just like PTS, we already know which faction will win this time, and it's unclear whether all three factions will get a chance in first place — we may just see the same one or two factions perpetually win as people choose their next faction solely for the rewards they offer.

Locking fragments, item sets, dyes, and other functional items behind faction choice and giving us FOMO that we may never get to see the Night Market more than three times is just upsetting game design.

coop500 · April 29

All the problems I fought for are still here. Forcing people to group in a free-for-all vet trial is not gonna cut it. Not when everyone has different goals, different times of play, and a hard cap of 30-something players per instance.

I imagine it will be fun this evening for the coming week as people get on after school/work, but then these early pain points are gonna become worse when people are at different progression points and scattered across 3 different districts plus the hub.

Yökarhu · April 29

I waited a long time, but no-one came through the doors. I really don't wanna solo vet dungeon. We tried to group in the guild, but we were different faction so different quests. This is gonna be interesting, how to keep people playing. Like if you need a premade group if you don't want to wait, guilds will need to organize what faction they take this season, no? I will try tomorrow again, maybe ppl just haven't found the place? But it was emptyyy.

coop500 · April 29

Yökarhu wrote: »

I waited a long time, but no-one came through the doors. I really don't wanna solo vet dungeon. We tried to group in the guild, but we were different faction so different quests. This is gonna be interesting, how to keep people playing. Like if you need a premade group if you don't want to wait, guilds will need to organize what faction they take this season, no? I will try tomorrow again, maybe ppl just haven't found the place? But it was emptyyy.

Different factions provide different quests? Oh god why, why did they design it like this... So people are ALREADY split up.

method__01 · April 29

impossible to play solo -whoever designed this should play before release
also ,rewards are ...tnx zos for Plague Doc ,and rest garbage set from last century

coop500 · April 29

method__01 wrote: »

impossible to play solo -whoever designed this should play before release
also ,rewards are ...tnx zos for Plague Doc ,and rest garbage set from last century

Sad fun fact: we did try this on the PTS. I said this would be too hard and people would just quit, NOT group up. People who don't like grouping won't magically start doing so for this. I fought probably too much, but I did, and so did a handful of others.

The elites told me to shut up, it's fine. So, enjoy the dead content I guess.

(For the people who will come in a few days with examples of it being not dead, give it a week or two. It will be populated at first, but it will die quickly.)

twisttop138 · April 29

method__01 wrote: »

twisttop138 wrote: »

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You can with the right build, they did nerf it. I think the general theme is find the group of people going through and follow them.

ok but if i wanted a group i can decide on my own -or this is Group Only content ?
if so i dont want waste my time ,got better things to do in game than f8 same tanky enemies over and over

It is very much not group only content. There is group content, in the form of 3 dungeon bosses and 1 trial boss but that is separate. As far as difficulty, it was tested on pts by players. They gave feedback and Zos toned down the trash mobs, I believe. They want to encourage teamwork but not force you to group. I've seen videos of common solo builds with pretty bad gear doing just fine. No to be fair, those are skilled players and putting on crap gear doesn't take away that skill. I have not had a chance to play yet, I'm at work. But the initial reaction in my social casual guilds discord is positive.

GoAvs34 · April 29

Soloing was going ok until people trained a boss on me and killed us all

noblecron · April 29

I get folk wanted harder content but I should not be required to have a trial group to do anything.

Also for content that's suppsoed to be group oriented, I don't like the fact that I can not group with a friend that has chosen a different faction than me. So far all groups I have been in are ruckus only. Why include group content if you can't group with your friends?

allochthons · April 29

RE: the population cap.

If the cap is reached, will another instance spin up, or will it Queue, like Cyrodiil?

coop500 · April 29

allochthons wrote: »

RE: the population cap.

If the cap is reached, will another instance spin up, or will it Queue, like Cyrodiil?

Probably another instance will spin up, since it's largely just an open world Vet trial.

emilyhyoyeon · April 29

My feedback is damn I wish all my friends didn't quit the game 7 years ago

Smitch_59 · April 29

I logged in today and saw that Night Market just started. I immediately lost interest and logged out.

EDIT: I like the new house and furnishings. I won't be unlocking the wings so I might just use the furnishings in other houses.

Lydawobbles · April 29

Are those numbers per faction across all platforms?

noblecron · April 29

I think per server

coop500 · April 29

Yes it's per instance

twisttop138 · April 29

coop500 wrote: »

method__01 wrote: »

impossible to play solo -whoever designed this should play before release
also ,rewards are ...tnx zos for Plague Doc ,and rest garbage set from last century

Sad fun fact: we did try this on the PTS. I said this would be too hard and people would just quit, NOT group up. People who don't like grouping won't magically start doing so for this. I fought probably too much, but I did, and so did a handful of others.

The elites told me to shut up, it's fine. So, enjoy the dead content I guess.

(For the people who will come in a few days with examples of it being not dead, give it a week or two. It will be populated at first, but it will die quickly.)

I think you have a point about the longevity but I think you're incorrect as to the why. I don't think the difficulty will kill it, but what it is. The two things lots of people love are not being done this year. Dungeons and a zone. Unfortunately it seems the night market takes the worst aspects of both and made a child with it. It's shallow, grindy, doesn't seem super repeatable. It'll be way to easy for a lot of us and too hard for others. There's no difficulty setting like a dungeon, on any of the content. It's the answer to a question that no one asked. I think this is why it'll lose steam. I cannot wait for raid night and someone has to back out and we can't find a DPS who has gotten all 3 relics and all the keys or whatever just to fight 1 boss.

I'll reserve final judgement till I play it this evening, but I think that it should've just had a vet setting.

zoegrey · April 29

I keep getting constant black screen flashes and complete loss of control of character, been having it on and off since update 49 but today in the night market it's every few minutes. Is anyone else experiencing this? Im on PC-EU and its almost unplayable, any idea when this will be fixed?

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LunaFlora · April 29

i wish Night Market had a lower difficulty option.
i said this during u49 pts cycle too.

twisttop138 · April 29

Hopefully your guilds have set stuff up. I know I made rosters for our players and they're all full for this week. I know this won't help everyone if you're in a guild, I would ask if they have stuff planned.

coop500 · April 29

LunaFlora wrote: »

i wish Night Market had a lower difficulty option.
i said this during u49 pts cycle too.

A vet and normal difficulty would have solved a lot of conflict.

Aylish · April 29

There is no fun if you don‘t have a large group. And those missive quests? You stumble upon them or you miss them. And you can‘t complete them if your team goes elsewhere.
This is chaotic.
And how do you even complete the events at the wells? They don‘t end ever…