I would say, in order:

• 1. Necromancer (complete rework needed, without subclassing it's not viable)
• 2. Arcanist (the whole class is about beam, nerfing it includes to rework the whole class)
• 3. Nightblade (mag version for pvp is weak as f. if you do not play bomber or méga-tank it's unplayble)

Instead of class, I would suggest reworking skill lines almost no one uses like Shadow, Living Death, Draconic Power, etc.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

While controversial, I enjoy the design of the Warden Script, where it doesn’t just provide a stat bonus, it actively changes the way a Script performs. While right now it feels too strong, if other classes had their own comparable version, it wouldn’t feel anywhere near as bad.

For example, the Templar Script, I would love to see something akin to the Meridia set, where it causes you to dodge all incoming attacks for a set amount of time, or make it function like a cheap version of Blinding Flashes.

Either way, definitely agree with the Mastery feeling too restrictive in it’s current iteration.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think the class in most need of a rework is the necromancer. It's too clunky to use compared to other classes. And all that effort isn't particularly well rewarded.

Right, kind of a hard balance between Elsweyr when the class had to be strong for sales, with the justification of added mechanics to give the class it’s power, with now where all of it’s additional strength has been stripped.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

It's one way to boost the power of a pure class vs sub-class. Removing that makes the pure class even weaker.

Then every Class Mastery should require specific skills to achieve the maximum benefit. For instance, maybe the Warden charm only happens when you have the Maturation passive active from the Green Balance skill line, or Arcanists only generate a Crux when they have the Circumvented Fate passive active from the Soldier of Apocrypha skill line.

I feel like the base classes need to have there skills and passives re-arranged to match new/dlc classes idea of having dps, tank and healing focused skill lines. At this current moment, most of us use the same exact skill lines for every role because only a few skill lines have both skills and passives that support a specific role.

If the skills and passives cant be re-arranged then I think the whole class system needs to be removed and changed to a system similar to champion points. I don't see a point to classes when we have the same skill lines. For example my Templar and Arcanist have the same exact skill lines equipped (dawns wrath, herold of the tome and animal companion) so how can one be identified as a Templar and one be a Arcanist ? For people that like to play a pure class can be rewarded with a strong passive that only is applied if you decide to only use skills/passives from one class (similar to call of duty when it comes to perks). Class sets can then also be buffed and should only be useable if you are using skills/passives from one class. Once again it makes no sense I have multiple classes with the same skill lines but cannot use class sets just because I started off a specific class.

Either way something needs to change because ever since these class changes the game has been very boring since everyone is pretty much the same build at this point.

Arcanist is starting to catch up to Nightblade!

Have to say, the biggest surprise of this poll, has been that Arcanist was not #1 or #2 as the most voted for Rework.

Then again, Consuming Darkness is pretty strange, so that makes sense too.

Easily Necromancer, but (at least in my opinion) its more to do with class fantasy than damage output. It just doesn't feel like a "necromancer" at all, rather like a dark wizard. I know ZOS was trying to be unique by creating a new take on necromancy in fantasy, but it just falls flat on its face when the existing necromancy fantasy in the Elder Scrolls series can already be seen in-game and feels 100% cooler.

Minions need to become a bigger part of the class overall (as DD, Healer, and even Tank). I've posted at length about what this should specifically look like in other forum threads, but my god is it sorely needed with this class.

Man… Arcanist is really creeping up on Nightblade.

It’s neck and neck, can’t wait to see who wins #3 spot when we reach 100 votes!