Class Rework? 2025

Xarc

I would say, in order:

• 1. Necromancer (complete rework needed, without subclassing it's not viable)
• 2. Arcanist (the whole class is about beam, nerfing it includes to rework the whole class)
• 3. Nightblade (mag version for pvp is weak as f. if you do not play bomber or méga-tank it's unplayble)

Gabriel_H

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

JinKC98

Instead of class, I would suggest reworking skill lines almost no one uses like Shadow, Living Death, Draconic Power, etc.

Radiate77

JinKC98 wrote: »

Instead of class, I would suggest reworking skill lines almost no one uses like Shadow, Living Death, Draconic Power, etc.

There are not enough Poll Options for that.

Erickson9610

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

Destai

Mesite wrote: »

I always struggled to find 10 dragon knight skills that I liked. Maybe Dragonknight needs a beam. (Just joking)

Even though you're joking, I'm kinda there. There was a time where I really liked them. They're one of those classes where there's a few really fun skills and the rest just don't vibe with me. I like Cauterize, Ash Storm, Molten Whip, and Igneous Weapons. That's really it. I love their passives, I want to use them on a bow class, but the skills feel really off for that playstyle for me.

Radiate77

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

While controversial, I enjoy the design of the Warden Script, where it doesn’t just provide a stat bonus, it actively changes the way a Script performs. While right now it feels too strong, if other classes had their own comparable version, it wouldn’t feel anywhere near as bad.

For example, the Templar Script, I would love to see something akin to the Meridia set, where it causes you to dodge all incoming attacks for a set amount of time, or make it function like a cheap version of Blinding Flashes.

Either way, definitely agree with the Mastery feeling too restrictive in it’s current iteration.

spartaxoxo

I think the class in most need of a rework is the necromancer. It's too clunky to use compared to other classes. And all that effort isn't particularly well rewarded.

Radiate77

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think the class in most need of a rework is the necromancer. It's too clunky to use compared to other classes. And all that effort isn't particularly well rewarded.

Right, kind of a hard balance between Elsweyr when the class had to be strong for sales, with the justification of added mechanics to give the class it’s power, with now where all of it’s additional strength has been stripped.

Gabriel_H

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Templars class mastery for Scribing is only useful to healers and tanks, since it requires sacred ground and thats only available in one templar skill line... the one dps gets rid of.

Eh? Templar class mastery is junk for tanks. The extra resistance isn't needed and the extra WD/SD is all but meaningless.

For a sub-classed DD the extra resistance offsets the loss of survivability passives and the extra WD/SD is useful. Sacred Ground is not needed for the class mastery, it simply provides an additionla boost of 50% more.

The 50% boost should be removed, or baked into the base WD/SD and Armor.

Class Mastery should not explicitly mention Class abilities/passives whatsoever, because that is extremely limiting.

It's one way to boost the power of a pure class vs sub-class. Removing that makes the pure class even weaker.