Guild history turned off - perhaps this warrants an unplanned and urgent maintenance?

freespirit · September 6

@Freezbeez you asked if you could safely hold Auctions, I was merely pointing out that payment for items sold at any Auction held in the next two weeks would be the biggest issue to track.

I know at some of our Auctions, items we sell go for many, many millions, that would be my biggest worry, if that is not yours then why would you be worried about holding one?

Pops_ND_Irish · September 7

Guild bid info being shsred seems to have been the reason for Guild history being locked down till the 16th.
This would not be an issue if they removed guild traders and went to Market Boards

wolfie1.0. · September 7

Pops_ND_Irish wrote: »

Guild bid info being shsred seems to have been the reason for Guild history being locked down till the 16th.
This would not be an issue if they removed guild traders and went to Market Boards

That's like destroying the house and rebuilding a new one because the water pipes broke.

MreeBiPolar · September 7

This being an endeavor 2nd day in a row is a cherry on top.

Freezbeez · September 7

freespirit wrote: »

@Freezbeez you asked if you could safely hold Auctions, I was merely pointing out that payment for items sold at any Auction held in the next two weeks would be the biggest issue to track.

I know at some of our Auctions, items we sell go for many, many millions, that would be my biggest worry, if that is not yours then why would you be worried about holding one?

Hello,

Thank you very much for your message. I realize there was an error in Google's translation of my text, but I now understand the meaning of your answers.

My question, correctly translated by Google, should be this:

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Is the bidding system still working?

Is it safe to bid on sellers for the changeover next Tuesday?

*Est ce que le système d'encherir fonctionne toujours ?
Est ce qu'on peut enchérir sur les vendeurs en toute sécurité pour le changement de mardi prochain ?*

Freezbeez · September 7

sPark101 wrote: »

Luckily there are ten thousand other tading guilds out there for the players that get cut.

Hello,

Yes, finding a place in a nice and decent trading guild is pretty easy.

For your information, you should also know that there are only 288 merchants available for a total of 144,000 players every week.

I highly doubt that there are still 144,000 of us playing every day per server... This is one more reason to resolve this issue as quickly as possible, because trade guilds in TESO are the most viable groups of people in the game.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version) I'm testing it, it seems better than Google Translate.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · September 8

Freezbeez wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

@Freezbeez you asked if you could safely hold Auctions, I was merely pointing out that payment for items sold at any Auction held in the next two weeks would be the biggest issue to track.

I know at some of our Auctions, items we sell go for many, many millions, that would be my biggest worry, if that is not yours then why would you be worried about holding one?

Hello,

Thank you very much for your message. I realize there was an error in Google's translation of my text, but I now understand the meaning of your answers.

My question, correctly translated by Google, should be this:

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Is the bidding system still working?

Is it safe to bid on sellers for the changeover next Tuesday?

*Est ce que le système d'encherir fonctionne toujours ?
Est ce qu'on peut enchérir sur les vendeurs en toute sécurité pour le changement de mardi prochain ?*

Hello! Great question. We checked with the Dev team on this, and the answer is yes. Guild trader bidding is working and it is safe to bid on them for your trading guilds.

Gabriel_H · September 8

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi All, just following up here. We posted an update message here regarding guild history. Our team is working to resolve the issue, however, this cannot be hotfixed. The team is currently working on other ways to help while we work to resolve the issue. If we have any additional updates, we'll follow up in the linked thread above.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Due to an issue where guild trader bidding history was visible to those without the appropriate guild permissions, we are temporarily turning off ALL guild history information. Unfortunately the fix for this issue cannot be hotfixed, so it will go out at the next earliest possible time: the incremental patch for PC on Sept. 15 and for consoles on Sept. 16.

Thank you all for your patience and understanding.

Skills not firing, taunts not working, but hey we'll fix the least important part of the game. Is that about right?

ApoAlaia · September 8

Gabriel_H wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi All, just following up here. We posted an update message here regarding guild history. Our team is working to resolve the issue, however, this cannot be hotfixed. The team is currently working on other ways to help while we work to resolve the issue. If we have any additional updates, we'll follow up in the linked thread above.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Due to an issue where guild trader bidding history was visible to those without the appropriate guild permissions, we are temporarily turning off ALL guild history information. Unfortunately the fix for this issue cannot be hotfixed, so it will go out at the next earliest possible time: the incremental patch for PC on Sept. 15 and for consoles on Sept. 16.

Thank you all for your patience and understanding.

Skills not firing, taunts not working, but hey we'll fix the least important part of the game. Is that about right?

Yes.

But also no.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8366553/#Comment_8366553

Freezbeez · September 8

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hello! Great question. We checked with the Dev team on this, and the answer is yes. Guild trader bidding is working and it is safe to bid on them for your trading guilds.

Thank you for your prompt reply, I already feel much better

I will pass this information on to my colleagues.

*DeeplTrad

Jofish · September 10

Treasurers? A guild "Rank" that can be designated for people to have access to the financial affairs of the guild. Separating the Gold from guild bank items. Trader history to not include bid amounts, only sales. That info only available to "treasurers".

SeaWoodStage · September 10

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Sorry for asking you directly Jessica, but you're more on the ball than most. I've looked back through the last five pages on this topic (currently all pages when posting this comment) of comments, but not read every comment thoroughly. I know my guild isn't the only one that's been hit by a scumbag member taking advantage of the guild blackout to clear our guild bank of anything that can be sold for even one gold to an in-game merchant.

Like many other GMs, I've had to temporarily revoke all bank access (deposit and withdrawal) to make sure people aren't donating stuff just to have it snatched by a dickhead. But too late really as one of our members is a turd, and I don't know who. Not only are they are turd, but they deliberately took advantage of a Zos-caused error in order to make less than 15k.

I want to know who that person is. The reason I want to know is because I want to blacklist that person from our guild, and also let the GMs of the other four guilds I'm in know, so they can blacklist them too. Even in low-stress guilds like mine, it's really frustrating to have the history hidden.

My guild is deliberately casual but honest. I've put thousands of hours into this game, including hundreds of hours into creating a guildhall that has everything and is convenient for all members. Someone in my guild is a bank-robbing jerk and I want to know who, in order to ban them, blacklist them, and warn other GMs I know of their GT.

So what I'm asking is, A) Fix the guild history blackout soon please, and

Restore all guild history. I get that neither of those are your job, but you're the person we speak to, to maybe speak to someone else. And the info has to be somewhere in the files. I ask because I love this game. I've spent literally thousands of hours playing this game, and haven't regretted a single minute of it. But it's things like this that make me hate it.

If you can help, thank you

If you can't, thanks anyway. If you can't help, pass it on to someone who can please. And whether you can help or not, I and many others do appreciate what you do.

DenverRalphy · September 10

SeaWoodStage wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Sorry for asking you directly Jessica, but you're more on the ball than most. I've looked back through the last five pages on this topic (currently all pages when posting this comment) of comments, but not read every comment thoroughly.<snipped for brevity>

So what I'm asking is, A) Fix the guild history blackout soon please, and Restore all guild history. I get that neither of those are your job, but you're the person we speak to, to maybe speak to someone else. And the info has to be somewhere in the files. I ask because I love this game. I've spent literally thousands of hours playing this game, and haven't regretted a single minute of it. But it's things like this that make me hate it.
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Comment #77 of this thread.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8365719/#Comment_8365719

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Gunner19K · 3:56AM

My wife is on PS5 and I'm on PS4 and have 600 mbs network speed. There is no history available to either of is, including players joinng. I invite people often to our guild yet the history says last invite was almost 2 weeks ago. Worse, we both get terriible lag and stutter beginning last year that we never had. Also loading screens in our houses, delves, and dungeons. People say sets are broken. I suggest the servers are broken.