Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

frogthroat wrote: »

But the other one can be understood as an exploit. It is an addon that is designed for saving your telvar if you carry a lot of them and need to exit IC quickly. You can assign a hotkey to port you quickly from Cyro to IC or vice versa.

The guy Dr Gankstein referred to was in Cyro, did a bomb at a keep door and then vanished. Apparently he claimed he used vamp stage 4 but in actuality he used the addon to quickly port to IC. So he bombed and before anyone can kill him he ported away.

I want to chime in here. Someone porting to Cyro/IC in the middle of a fight is not necessarily the result of cheating, but rather the queue system or just a delay in the process.

I had a situation where I queued for Cyro while in IC. There was no queue. I was in stealth waiting for it to pop. I got the prompt and hit the key to port. Then someone immediately found me and attacked. I was defending myself when more enemy players jumped in. I was defending myself against 5-6 players and losing ground when I poofed and the Cyrodiil loading screen appeared.

I did not cheat. I was waiting for the integrated process to kick in and was unwillingly thrown into battle.

Whilst it's not the topic being discussed here queuing into cyro/ic/bg/group finder to avoid dying in PVP is considered an exploit by some. Especially when it avoids you losing tel'vars to other players. There are mechanics in place within IC to 'port to base' and those require you to be out of combat whilst using the port stone. This is why people consider being able to do so whilst in combat an exploit as it's 'unintended' based on the other available mechanics.

Port stone?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Baertram wrote: »

Even I had that active to review it's code and it NEVER EVER used that Fishing Bot at all!

And did you get banned for having it installed @Baertram? - if you didn't then it wasn't a ban due to having the addon installed but instead for using the bot / suspicious behaviour.

Nope, I was not. I was never banned, just to clarify that!

I was just answering to the question "could the addon alone get you banned".
And: My answer (having to review many addons each day, thus having them installed, and maybe forgetting to disable them ingame before next playtime) was just an example.
I think I never actually used that particular addon FishingState* ingame.



I also got a reply from Zos about addons alone being a ban reason?: In short - No it is not.

Addons use ofificial API and thus they cannot get you banned UNLESS you find any API that is exploitable and use ithat exploit actively (like at 2014 where some shady addon dev (who got banned quickly) attached gold to emails and send that automatically to himself without letting the users know he/she did... This was shut down early back in 2014,before you ask! So not possible anymore).

Means, that addon FishingState* alone would never get you banned. Whoever said so was wrong and missunderstood what ZOs answered I guess?
ZOs does only ban you if you were using FishyBot (which I think is using that addon to get some data from ESO to react on for the automatic fishing) or any other external tools or changed eso64.exe files etc. which are not allowed (hopefully not any Reshade tools for graphics quality improvements...But these usually do not change the eso64.exe, they add or change some graphics drivers dll files or direct3d dll files).

Conclusion to me:
In the end that means (for me at least): the users who got banned actively used external tools like FishyBot or any other modified executable of ESO or any other tools.
It was not because they simply downloaded and activated any addon.


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Whilst it's not the topic being discussed here queuing into cyro/ic/bg/group finder to avoid dying in PVP is considered an exploit by some. Especially when it avoids you losing tel'vars to other players. There are mechanics in place within IC to 'port to base' and those require you to be out of combat whilst using the port stone. This is why people consider being able to do so whilst in combat an exploit as it's 'unintended' based on the other available mechanics.

Even this is no official exploit as you can always do that with ingame available clicks, or even with the API provided by ZOs. And afaik understood this won't get you banned at all then.

Beside that I'd think this should be forbidden or not possible anymore, as it is clearly an advantage to do it (if it works), especially if you got some kind of addoj with a keybind which tries it for you directly then.
Should be only available manually via opening the menus and clicking 10 times If you get that to work properly manually you had enough time and it should be legit ^^

Dock01 wrote: »

i hope the next ban waves is pvp related ahh wouldn't that be a joyyy

Word? What's going on in PvP ive not seen much of anything

Dock01 wrote: »

Etherea1 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Etherea1 wrote: »

MalaVrazica wrote: »

This is an addon you can get on minion.
It's a companion for the said bot.

I had it in my Addons folder somehow. This might seems the legit reason for ban.
I wish customer support had ability to check game logs like how many times I fished prior to ban and how many fish I caught (I believe I haven't fished for half a year at least).

@ZOS_Kevin could you please pass this info to customer support?
[250523-002612]

We checked in on your ticket just now. It is in the correct place awaiting the appeals process. Since it was placed today, please allow for some time as we work through tickets in order. But your ticket is accounted for and will go through the appeals process.

@ZOS_Kevin . Good day! Any update on this?

so any update ? or is the ban forever?

I believe mine is final.
I wish security team disclose some detail about violation like how and when (date time, etc).
Without this I believe appeal review is just formal without examining logs.

Dock01 wrote: »

Etherea1 wrote: »

Dock01 wrote: »

Etherea1 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Etherea1 wrote: »

MalaVrazica wrote: »

This is an addon you can get on minion.
It's a companion for the said bot.

I had it in my Addons folder somehow. This might seems the legit reason for ban.
I wish customer support had ability to check game logs like how many times I fished prior to ban and how many fish I caught (I believe I haven't fished for half a year at least).

@ZOS_Kevin could you please pass this info to customer support?
[250523-002612]

We checked in on your ticket just now. It is in the correct place awaiting the appeals process. Since it was placed today, please allow for some time as we work through tickets in order. But your ticket is accounted for and will go through the appeals process.

@ZOS_Kevin . Good day! Any update on this?

so any update ? or is the ban forever?

I believe mine is final.
I wish security team disclose some detail about violation like how and when (date time, etc).
Without this I believe appeal review is just formal without examining logs.

damn im so sorry @Etherea1 , it sucks especially after you spend tons of money in the game, im here for you

It took them 2 weeks for me I wasn't banned for this but yah I totally get it I've spent over 15k easy on this game but I also play on all platforms so probably even more

2 month passed by and I still suspended
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