Only the Daily Writ Quests from the crafting board(s) have a chance to drop Writs. Each of your characters can do those once per day, per craft. Zone Dailies have nothing to do with it.

The more complete Motifs you know, the better your chances of Master Writs dropping for equipment durables. I believe the more traits you have researched helps as well. The more alchemy traits you know, the better your chances for Alchemy Master Writs. The more runes you have translated, the better your chances for an Enchanting Master Writ. The more purple text provisioning recipes that character knows, the better their chances for a Provisioning Master Writ.

Beyond that, it's just RNG. I do Daily Writs on 11 characters - sometimes I get a ton of Master Writs in a week. Sometimes only a few. If you want a better flow: fill in your basic crafting milestones on multiple characters and do their Daily Crafting Writs every day. The RNG "evens out" with bigger numbers.

"Patch notes say X, I do X. Player tells me patch notes later also say Y, I do Y. Nothing helps.

Originally patch notes said it was based on achievements, motifs known, recipes known, etc. I have yet to see my main who knows/has achieved far more than my other top tier crafters, has 9 traits, knows all recipe but the cipher one, etc. etc. Consistently, my main gets far less writs than my others, and almost never gets writs worth more than 17v. It's been like this since master writs were introduced.

A player recently told me that I should put skill points back in the research passives (12 skill points total on my crafting toon for which it costs over 15k to respec skill points if I ever want those back), because he swore in the patch notes it said skill points in crafting passives counted as well as achievements.
Same player told me to get the new outfit achievements as those count too. So I did.

So far I've gotten a 2v alchemy writ and a provisioning writ I trashed because it called for prefect roe. But nothing for ww, cl or bs, which were the crafting professions that required the research passives I so begrudging fed skill points back into in hopes of getting more writs."




I'm going to quote this. Its from one of the old threads on the subject. My experience has been similar. What is quoted as being "known" doesn't seem to describe what we see.

There is something else going on, besides rng and a small selection of known variables that influence it. I was on a ROLL with master writs, then two things happened: 1) I changed my playstyle from zone questing to dungones, and 2) I cancelled ESO+. There are some unknown variables.

When people claim to know how it works, are they just regurgitating something a developer said many years ago? Because systems change, and developers can't usually remember the code they wrote five years ago, let along five days ago. And of course there are bugs.

When people say "this is how it works, it is known". They need to cite exactly where/how it was discovered, not just people recounting something they may have heard a developer say many years ago.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ImmortalCX wrote: »

"Patch notes say X, I do X. Player tells me patch notes later also say Y, I do Y. Nothing helps.

Originally patch notes said it was based on achievements, motifs known, recipes known, etc. I have yet to see my main who knows/has achieved far more than my other top tier crafters, has 9 traits, knows all recipe but the cipher one, etc. etc. Consistently, my main gets far less writs than my others, and almost never gets writs worth more than 17v. It's been like this since master writs were introduced.

A player recently told me that I should put skill points back in the research passives (12 skill points total on my crafting toon for which it costs over 15k to respec skill points if I ever want those back), because he swore in the patch notes it said skill points in crafting passives counted as well as achievements.
Same player told me to get the new outfit achievements as those count too. So I did.

So far I've gotten a 2v alchemy writ and a provisioning writ I trashed because it called for prefect roe. But nothing for ww, cl or bs, which were the crafting professions that required the research passives I so begrudging fed skill points back into in hopes of getting more writs."




I'm going to quote this. Its from one of the old threads on the subject. My experience has been similar. What is quoted as being "known" doesn't seem to describe what we see.

There is something else going on, besides rng and a small selection of known variables that influence it. I was on a ROLL with master writs, then two things happened: 1) I changed my playstyle from zone questing to dungones, and 2) I cancelled ESO+. There are some unknown variables.

When people claim to know how it works, are they just regurgitating something a developer said many years ago? Because systems change, and developers can't usually remember the code they wrote five years ago, let along five days ago. And of course there are bugs.

When people say "this is how it works, it is known". They need to cite exactly where/how it was discovered, not just people recounting something they may have heard a developer say many years ago.

I have a similar experience. I have a 9-trait crafter that knows all except about 4 motifs, and 7 8-trait crafters with pass-me-down motif pages, and one nearly 8-trait crafter. Every day I start with #1 alt for daily crafting writs, down the line with all of them until the main character does them last. I rarely get any master writs on the main toon.

My anecdotal observations were that as I added more crafters over time and didn’t invest in traits, skill points, or motif knowledge that the drop rate for all goes down. Recently I had the last 3 characters only leveled up enough to do alchemy, enchanting, and provisioning writs, and I was trying to get enough vouchers for the GMC tables. I was lucky to get 1-2 gold master writs per week. Now I am just a few traits short for the last character the drop rate has gone up. When she is done and some considerable time has passed I can better see if the improvement is consistent.

Now I know people are going to say that I just had a bad spell, even though it ran for nearly a year. I don’t know what the reason is, but it seems like the drop rate gets averaged over all of my crafters, so more with less investment brings the average down. I don’t know if it is because I do my main crafter last and others do theirs first. Just thought I would share since I am trying to figure this out myself.

Yeah, its not a bad spell, there is something else going on.

If you think about it, they have to place bounds on what can be achieved. If one crafter can get (say) five master writs in a normal week, that means an account with 20 characters could get 100 per week. That would exhaust the system. There must be some mechanism in place so that someone with 20 maxed characters does not dominate the system.

I am going to stop playing dungeons at some point, which means going back to zone stories and zone quests. Will see then if I start getting writs again. I think a character has a hidden achievement level and if you are above the threshold because you ran dungeons and farmed transmutes, it wont give you writs. OTH, if you are a solo player and don't acquire anything notable, it will more likely give writs.

I'm relatively confident there's probably a cap on the bonus you can get from learning motifs. There are entirely too many motifs that have been introduced into the game since the mechanic was created. If they were all cumulative my main crafter would be churning them out at an obscene rate

My main has all motifs learned, researched all 9 traits on everything, 99% all purple and gold recipes learned, practically everything that affects the chance to drop master writs I have at max.

Next, I have 19 alt characters and each of them has 10x full motifs learned (as far as I know knowing more than 10 doesn't add as much as the first 10 so having more than 10 doesn't increase those chances much..), 8 traits researched and currently have more than half of the 9 traits, I'd say they know 95% of all purple and gold recipes, of course both skill points, alchemy stuff and enchanting stuff to the max (just everything for the chance of master writs).

And the result?
I have a daily average 15 master writs, a happy day I have 18, rarely 20, bad days are 11 etc. but the average is around 15 master writs a day.

And what I get is really random, however jwc, ww, bs and cloth master writs always have more vouchers than enchanting, alchemy and provisioning master writs.
I put aside just the enchanting, alchemy and provisioning ones every day and only doing them when there is an xp event in the game (quite a few people do this and these master wriths are mostly only good for xp).

The other master writs (jwc, ww etc), I only keep the ones where the price is under 400g/1voucher (these writs are only for profit in my case), the ones that are not profitable to do I simply delete, and the "good" ones I do once a week (always on Sunday) and I have around 1300 writ vouchers a week from these master writs.

But yeah, which particular ones I get is purely random, for me sometimes the xp master writs (alchemy, provisioning, enchanting) prevail, other days it can be the opposite and I have more of the ww, bs etc..
But of course if for example you have learned all the runes for enchanting and all the combinations for alchemy but for example for ww or bs you have no trait researched and you don't know any motifs so it's clear that you will mostly get the alchemy and enchanting ones because you have more chance to get master writs for them.

But what activities you do in the game doesn't affect what kind of master writs you get or how many vouchers a given writ has.

Is it known whether the steady introduction of new styles is reducing the contribution of each known style? I.e. is it the number of complete styles, or the perecentage of complete styles known in that factor. Or even the number of unknown/incomplete ones? Adding new ones could be a major factor in reducing drop rate, depending on the actual formula.

I was going to estimate that I get 100 per week with my 20 crafters. I counted today since I was reading this post, and I got 19 in today's rewards. It did not feel like an exceptional day.