Stamina and Magicka are core gameplay elements of TES games. Hybridization already makes abilities scale off the higher of your stats, and I think that's enough.

Anumaril wrote: »

I understand the bait, but class freedom — a staple of every TES game — is not equivalent to removing one of the three core resources from the game.

No three, two. Health will still be a separate stat.

Power, Crit and Penetration being separated into Weapon- and Spell- versions that have the same value makes no sense anymore, but Magicka and Stamina are still separate resource pools.

Hybridisation just changed the game from only tanks, to everyone being able to make good use of both resource pools without gimping themselves. It's not that complicated to handle three resource bars, just give it a try.

And no, they're not the same. Magicka is still full after sprinting to the combat, you still need to save some Stamina in case you need to dodge roll, and you should still priorize the resource for which damage types you get the best buffs

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

No three, two. Health will still be a separate stat.

Read my comment again, but slowly.

Not everyone follows hybridisation, there are lots of different ways of playing the game for a variety of reasons and playstyles. In a predominantly role-playing game with an established lore and core structure like ESO it's important to maintain all options by keeping things as varied as possible, only a very small proportion of players will be overly worried about things like meta builds.

Generally speaking, the more a game is trivialised the less I enjoy it.

I feel like Hybridization was a mistake and wound up (predictably) being Homogenization to a large extent. Subclassing seems likely doomed to the same end result.

That said, they also never quite saw Hybridization fully through and there ARE things that need completing since it's obviously staying. Merging STA and MAG, however, is not on that list.

I don't know. On paper OP has a good idea. On the other hand, ZOS would be in charge of making these changes and they have a history of implementing good ideas in a way that flops. At this point I almost wonder if ZOS shouldn't just implement some form of vengeance mode on the entire game and officially tell us the game is in maintenance mode.

If there is just one resource, it's not hybridization by definition.

I think what they should have done was give the player either a magic or stamina morph choice for all abilities. I think they even have one ability that works off of both. To me, this would have been real player choice. They have a couple that do this, so why leave out all the other abilities with this choice? I guess just another oversight with ZOS.

I would mainly like to know if they’re considering it done.

Aside from that, there’s not much more hybridization that want to see. Maybe condensing spell and weapon power/damage, that’s all I can think of right now.

Even with hybrid scalling, resources still somewhat define your skill setup choices, you can't just pick whatever skill you like, you need to be able to sustain them, and that's basically what still set mag and stam builds apart, even if it's a small difference like a spammable.

Getting rid of that would basically mean the few remaining differences between builds would simply disappear and everyone will be running the exact same stuff, leading further into homogenization, which has been a pain point for a while.

ESO doesn't need further simplification, building is already simple enough as it is, and as others mentioned, attributes are one of the most characteristic things of TES franchise.

Hybridization needs to be completed, but not by merging resources, what they should actually merge are all spell/weapon specific buffs, maybe merge those stats as a whole, and rework class unique group buffs.

The current mag/stam sustain works fine for off resource if you use the skills wisely. I have highly optimised builds where I have some off resource skills to maximise damage and there I need to be very mindful not to cast them too often, otherwise I have no resources. I like this. Gives a feeling of success when you play just at the edge of your off resource sustain.

With the current hybridisation you can play around with the skills and choose some off resource skills, but not too many. If the resources were combined, only one combination would prevail. Now we can have some different, whether to load up mainly stam or mainly mag skills.

The hybridisation brought us very similar set setups. Mags can use stam sets and vice versa. But all DDs use mainly medium armour now. That is a slight setback in my opinion. It homogenised the builds a bit too much when it comes to sets. But the skills, those I like. You can go all mag or all stam, like before, and then your other resource is meaningless - a wasted resource. But with hybridisation you can use both resource pools effectively.

And no, combining the pools would not be "without loss of complexity for the experienced" - on the contrary. It would mean one meta build per class. That's it. It would do for the skills what the current hybridisation already did for the sets. We could effectively remove all the different morphs in that case and have just one per skill.

No. Stam and Magika are core elements of TES games and so its not going anywhere. But I agree that hybridization needs to go, so IMO, its time to get rid of it and go back to making a choice between mag spec and stam spec.

Why not take it even further and merge all attributes into one — health? When both healing and damage depend on health, we’ll finally achieve the perfect meta of unkillable, self-healing tank-DPS hybrids.