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Why is there no disagree option in the forum?

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We have "agree", "insightful", "awesome".... but if I disagree with somebody's option it seems I need to write a reply, rather than just clicking "disagree".

Personally, I'd rather just click a "disagree" option, unless I've got more to say... but maybe that's just me.

  • SilverBride
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    It could be abused to troll posters.
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  • Avran_Sylt
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    Troll posters and with respect to discussion, if you disagree with something, explain why, as it could be for any reason.
    But if you agree with a post, the discussion points are the post itself.
    For example, I could disagree because I don't like that you used 4 periods instead of the commonly used set of three...
  • spartaxoxo
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    Because it's detrimental to discussion. If you disagree, you should leave a post. It's also used to troll e.g. hitting a bunch of disagrees on blatantly true posts just because of salt.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on 6 February 2025 04:02
  • Caligulove
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    People with thin skin have been on the internet for a while now, so we can't have it anymore.
  • Orbital78
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    insightful is the disagree button
  • Erickson9610
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    Orbital78 wrote: »
    insightful is the disagree button

    That's not intuitive. But, the opinion is insightful.
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  • Feaky
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    i gave many thoughtful replies on the PVP section of the forums and now nothing on the PVP section is open for my my comments anymore. Its obvious they do not want our opinion on anything just the sycophants replying to anything they post.
    Edited by Feaky on 6 February 2025 05:04
  • spartaxoxo
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    Orbital78 wrote: »
    insightful is the disagree button

    Not for the vast majority of the users.
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    I don't us Insightful for anything other than what it is.
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  • Reverb
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    There was a disagree when the forums launched. They removed it because they thought it discouraged dialogue. They wanted people to explain why they disagreed with a post or comment instead of downvoting and moving on. Then they removed the LOL because people were mockingly using it as disagree.
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  • Lozeenge
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    someone replying to the person they're disagreeing with and receiving more updoots than them speaks at about the same volume as just hitting some dislike button.
    Edited by Lozeenge on 6 February 2025 06:53
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  • ApoAlaia
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    Lozeenge wrote: »
    someone replying to the person they're disagreeing with and receiving more updoots than the op speaks at about the same volume as just hitting some dislike button.

    Furthermore fellow players having to elaborate on the matter [of disagreeing] means that their arguments are also subjected to 'peer review'.

    I always find it amusing that the absence of a 'disagree' button is equated by some to a prevalence of 'thin skinned' fellow players; to me the ones who yearn for the ability to express dissent while withholding their arguments from scrutiny - providing that they have formulated any which in my experience is not a given - are the ones that don't feel particularly confident in the strength of their reasoning and crave the sense of validation 'blind disagreement' provides.
  • Nathanbreakfast
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    Reverb wrote: »
    There was a disagree when the forums launched. They removed it because they thought it discouraged dialogue. They wanted people to explain why they disagreed with a post or comment instead of downvoting and moving on. Then they removed the LOL because people were mockingly using it as disagree.

    God forbid anybody gets mocked.
  • Belegnole
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    ApoAlaia wrote: »
    Lozeenge wrote: »
    someone replying to the person they're disagreeing with and receiving more updoots than the op speaks at about the same volume as just hitting some dislike button.

    Furthermore fellow players having to elaborate on the matter [of disagreeing] means that their arguments are also subjected to 'peer review'.

    I always find it amusing that the absence of a 'disagree' button is equated by some to a prevalence of 'thin skinned' fellow players; to me the ones who yearn for the ability to express dissent while withholding their arguments from scrutiny - providing that they have formulated any which in my experience is not a given - are the ones that don't feel particularly confident in the strength of their reasoning and crave the sense of validation 'blind disagreement' provides.

    I disagree, and by your way of thinking the agree button should be removed as well.
  • Erickson9610
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    Reverb wrote: »
    There was a disagree when the forums launched. They removed it because they thought it discouraged dialogue. They wanted people to explain why they disagreed with a post or comment instead of downvoting and moving on. Then they removed the LOL because people were mockingly using it as disagree.

    God forbid anybody gets mocked.

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  • spartaxoxo
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    Belegnole wrote: »
    ApoAlaia wrote: »
    Lozeenge wrote: »
    someone replying to the person they're disagreeing with and receiving more updoots than the op speaks at about the same volume as just hitting some dislike button.

    Furthermore fellow players having to elaborate on the matter [of disagreeing] means that their arguments are also subjected to 'peer review'.

    I always find it amusing that the absence of a 'disagree' button is equated by some to a prevalence of 'thin skinned' fellow players; to me the ones who yearn for the ability to express dissent while withholding their arguments from scrutiny - providing that they have formulated any which in my experience is not a given - are the ones that don't feel particularly confident in the strength of their reasoning and crave the sense of validation 'blind disagreement' provides.

    I disagree, and by your way of thinking the agree button should be removed as well.

    If you agree with something then the same argument you would make is already available. If you hit disagree, the reasoning is absent.
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    Imagine an official Patch where the post with unpopular changes that has a score of 30 insightful, 10 agree, 5 awesome and 250 disagree.
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    || EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||
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  • Avran_Sylt
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    Caligulove wrote: »
    People with thin skin have been on the internet for a while now, so we can't have it anymore.

    Speaking of thin skin, what I don't get is why people get in such a huff about a literal UI button not being present that does nothing other than increment a number by +1...
    Reverb wrote: »
    There was a disagree when the forums launched. They removed it because they thought it discouraged dialogue. They wanted people to explain why they disagreed with a post or comment instead of downvoting and moving on. Then they removed the LOL because people were mockingly using it as disagree.

    God forbid anybody gets mocked.

    Mocking can still be done. Just not in the form of "u bad, lol" or :# , rather in honest critique of opinion.
  • Northwold
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    Orbital78 wrote: »
    insightful is the disagree button

    No, it isn't, and when asked on this forum about two people (peculiarly) used it for that. At the end of the day, it's not really effective communication to use something to signal something else when no one else understands it that way.

    On the wider point there was a pretty recent thread on this and the answer is pretty obvious. It invites abuse.

    If someone writes, for example, that they hate a certain type of human being, it may get a large number of agrees, but the mods can easily delete it. If, instead, and only for example, someone writes "I love how ESO deals with gay people" and that gets bombarded with a torrent of disagrees, what exactly are the mods supposed to do with that?
    Edited by Northwold on 6 February 2025 09:37
  • opalcity
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    You can just say 'I disagree'. Takes less time than writing a complaint post.

    If you really want to contribute to the discussion, you can say WHY you disagree and then the discourse flows.
  • Caligulove
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Caligulove wrote: »
    People with thin skin have been on the internet for a while now, so we can't have it anymore.

    Speaking of thin skin, what I don't get is why people get in such a huff about a literal UI button not being present that does nothing other than increment a number by +1...

    To be clear, I'm not in a huff. It just is what it is.
  • GloatingSwine
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    Disagree buttons are for cowards.

    If you disagree, you can make your own post saying how and why.
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