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The ESO Craft Bag: A Convenience or a Gatekeeper to Enjoyable Gameplay?
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Arunei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?Character List [RP and PvE]:Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood
PC - NA - EP - CP1000+
Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?
I don't think I've seen a poll like that so far. For myself, yes, I would still sub - the other stuff is worth it to me.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....2 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »Craft bag did not ship with the game.
Before ESO+ the game was designed for you to keep crafting mats in your bank. Just as it is now, with non eso+ accounts. So you are just playing this now as it was originally designed. (We also could not just summon a banker either.)
Since its inception eso+ has lost a lot of its value. The only real reason to keep it is the craft bag.
Glad to see someone else posted this. It would be toxic if it was part of the game and then pulled into eso+ as a paid feature.
Like others I have been happy to pay a sub for the craft bag for housing and crafting ease. It has been a great value for someone like me who spends so much time playing. I hope that the changes in store for us next year will allow me to continue to do so.
Same. The inventory issue has been a thing long before ESO+. To say the system was "designed" to sell the solution is a bit disingenuous since the solution was only added quite a bit after the fact. I do think, with the addition of so many new things that go into inventories, it would be welcome to add some additional slots for both characters and banks that were not paid but I certainly don't consider ESO+ to be "toxic".
I choose not to play without ESO+, mostly because I am a hoarder and can't resist picking things up (this is how I play literally every single game - in some you can no longer move if you pick up too much stuff, in some you just can't pick up anything else until you make space, etc). Because I know I don't like to play without the craft bag, I don't buy DLCs; there are some I own because they were free at one point, there are some I was gifted, but I don't buy them myself.
However, I have also played ESO+ without the sub and for a not-insignificant amount of time. There were changes I needed to make to my playstyle (turn off autoloot, sell stuff instead of decon it) but it was definitely manageable. I even made sure my bank was lower than the non-subscriber limit so I had space prior to not having a sub so I didn't have a conundrum with not being able to move stuff around as needed. There are things I'd consider way more anti-consumer than ESO+, for sure. (Changing skills that render paid items useless is definitely one of them.)PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS2 -
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Me too, on both my accounts.
Well.... caveat: IF things don't change so much I just quit entirely next year....______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....1 -
Erickson9610✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?
I'd still sub, if only for the yearly allotment of Crowns and increased currency/experience gain. I've been subscribed for years now, so I don't really remember what it's like to have to keep trashing crafting materials...PC/NA — Lone Werewolf, the Templar Khajiit Werewolf
Werewolf Should be Allowed to Sneak
Please give us Werewolf Skill Styles (for customizing our fur color), Grimoires/Scribing skills (to fill in the holes in our builds), and Companions (to transform with).0 -
Kyip✭✭✭This might be more insightful as a poll.Edited by Kyip on 24 December 2024 01:57Grim Focus Permaglow is still a problem: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/641376/grim-focus-permaglow1 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I wouldn't sub if the craft bag was removed. I'm not really into housing, so the increased housing slots don't matter to me. If my bank space was cut in half, I'm confident I could remove probably 80% of what I have stored there. I don't need the extra experience gain because I play my main 99.9% of the time, and I don't need to rush my companions to max level. As for the crowns, well, I'd just buy crowns on sale, if I needed them. I haven't spent my ESO+ crowns from my last renewal. As for DLCs, well, we're not getting any new chapters, and I've completed all the dungeon quests which is all I care about, so losing access to them wouldn't bother me.
When I tried playing for a couple of months without ESO+, it was the absence of the craft bag that made me resubscribe. I didn't notice the absence of any of the other benefits.
There was a discussion a while back about ESO+ when the Q4 DLC was given away. I said it devalued ESO+, but the majority of ESO+ subscribers in the thread said that they only subscribe for the craft bag and so they didn't care that ZOS was giving away the Q4 DLC. So maybe most would unsubscribe if the craft bag went away, or maybe if push came to shove, they'd stay for the other benefits.
How ESO+ is seen might change depending on how seasons are monetized. I'm not optimistic, though, that any or all of them will be included in ESO+, because chapters weren't until a year after release.2 -
moderatelyfatman✭✭✭✭✭
✭The crafting bag was indispensible in my first year of gameplay.
Now, I have a few thousand mats in my crafting bag, storage chests in my house and storage toons. A combination of the occassional once off ESO+ subscription and ESO+ free weekends means I can get by without it.
My only concern would be if ZOS made withdrawals from the crafting bag also a requirement for ESO+.Edited by moderatelyfatman on 24 December 2024 04:072
