I had been farming the boss a little bit (6 times per day at least), because I wanted the bust. As I did not get it in the last days of trying, I tested something today. In another post, someone said that they got it through a 12-player quest rotation, so...

Today, I ran it about 8-10 times, forming the group and entering with less than 8 players. The bust didn't come up ONCE in any of those runs.
Then, I ran it three times with 9+ groups. Every single one of those three times, one person got the bust. The last time, we were 12, and two people got the bust (one was me)...

In theory, the more people you have, the more difficult the fight is (resources drain + lanterns), so maybe it is indeed associated with difficulty? When you run it in the highest difficulty (9-12 people), you are guaranteed one drop? It is still RNG and with a low drop rate, but it seems that at least you can modify some things to increase the chances?

You can also get it solo, but in my experience, the drop is not guaranteed then (I ran more than 20 hjs in the last days with less than 8 people, and most times didn't see anyone get the drop). It could also be true RNG and me finding patterns where there are none... but worth to try maybe?

I got it on the very first day.

There was about 8 of us. Normal difficulty. Wiped twice.

On day 2, had a three player group (was 4 but one player DCd) and we wiped once, one player got the bust.

RNG is RNG

Djennku wrote: »

Been trying all event farming this boss for that dumb bust, and nothing to show for it. Killed him over 50 times so far, just farming the encounter, and it's making me crazy. I keep hearing people getting the drops with the first couple kills, and I have to wonder what the actual RNG on it is.


I get it if it was a rare drop or something, but a bust of all things that is usually obtained by completing the encounter on a harder difficulty? I also don't understand the current theme of making special items time gated with events that happen once a year for only two weeks to get them.

I'm ok with that kind of RNG for things you can get whenever, but the stess of possibly failing to obtain a specific collectable drop within a short timeframe is not fun.


Things like event drops and collectables used to be able to be traded, so if your RNG was garbage, you could at least buy the thing you are missing off soneone else.

My compassion you have. I was in the same spot during the anniversary event where I grinded dolmens like hell to get the worm staff motif and one of the other four. It dropped on the last day of the event I could participate in but missed out on the horse because it could only be obtained by playing every darn day and I couldn't

This time I was lucky it seems. I just play the boss once a day and I got it yesterday I think.

To be honest I think they should have done it differently. The trophy on the first kill guaranteed irrespective of the circumstances and the bust guaranted under more challenging conditions like we get the bust for veteran mode. Maybe for first solo kill? It could still drop randomly under any circumstances to allow low level players or people with no solo build to have a chance for the bust.

But I guess then there will be players complaining of how injust it is depending on which side they are. Some will complain that low level players have a chance for it while other players complain that - pressumably - only the end gamers have access to a guaranteed drop...

Another example of ZOS not adjusting for the changing playerbase. We're not in Lockdown any more and people have plenty of other options to spend their time.

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Do you have to be on the quest to fight Hollojack again?

No, you can just join a group of others going in even if you already did the quest for the day.

In fact, thats how I got the bust. Just kept going back in repeatedly with different groups until I got it on the 14th run.

NaluHays wrote: »

You can also get it solo, but in my experience, the drop is not guaranteed then (I ran more than 20 hjs in the last days with less than 8 people, and most times didn't see anyone get the drop). It could also be true RNG and me finding patterns where there are none... but worth to try maybe?

People may be tempted to see shapes in the clouds, but it's just random, plain and simple. I've seen it drop in large groups, in small groups, I've had it drop for me on the first kill for one of my accounts, and one of my other accounts still doesn't have it after numerous kills.